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Adding crowd noise when making your own MIX

Ok, we all know that when you hear these livesets from the big guys, the crowd noise totally makes the set as awesome as it is.......

now, when we all use Traktor, or VTT, or whatever, is there anyway to maybe throw in a crowdnoise quietly in the background the entire time to simulate a BIG DJ liveset? i want to make a liveset and throw that in so it sounds great.

anyone ever tried this and/or been successful at it? i am thinking you would need a 3rd channel on the mixer to have it going right?

-ABT-

I've tried it a few times. beleive me, it's bullshit. you can do it. but nobody pays attention to crowd noises. if you want really great crowd noises, then just grab the mic and shout something like "MAKE SOME NOOOOOOOISE!!!!!!!!!". nothing beats that. really. that will make your set really awsome.......

i think nothing destroys a mix like the annoying crowd shouting at the worst parts.

or even worst a retarded mc screaming when he should be listening.

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Originally posted by HyPeRSoNiC then just grab the mic and shout something like "MAKE SOME NOOOOOOOISE!!!!!!!!!". nothing beats that. really. that will make your set really awsome.......

actually i like it when they use profanities such as this

"MAKE SOME MORE FUCKING NOISE!!!!!" LOL

anyway either that or you can grab a couple friends give them free alcohol and make them yell and scream from the background into your microphone. lol

turbo's right..... you can do what he said or you can tell the 2 friends (when their totally wasted) to go to the middle of the dancefloor and start dancing like fucking retarded gay people, till the crowd makes this empty circle, with them in the middle of it, so everyone can see them.....
then, with a little luck, everyone will start imitating the 2 drunken boys..... that will be a pretty funny set.....

Re: Adding crowd noise when making your own MIX

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Originally posted by ABTsportsline Ok, we all know that when you hear these livesets from the big guys, the crowd noise totally makes the set as awesome as it is....... now, when we all use Traktor, or VTT, or whatever, is there anyway to maybe throw in a crowdnoise quietly in the background the entire time to simulate a BIG DJ liveset? i want to make a liveset and throw that in so it sounds great. anyone ever tried this and/or been successful at it? i am thinking you would need a 3rd channel on the mixer to have it going right? -ABT-

dude, that is so fucking weak it isn't even funny.....that's a joke....it's gotta be..lol I mean if any promotor heard that shit they would laugh at you and your mix four hours....I know I am just thinking about it....

ok i guess you guys totally missed the point of this thread... i was being serious.

And no, to all you "comedians" out there, answer me THIS then if you think i'm fucking kidding:
why do you download livesets in the first place? you could just download all the singles from the sets and put them on a CD, and go track to track immediately as you wish! The point we download livesets (or at least the reason I and all my friends do) is because you feel like you're THERE... its the ambience of the liveset that makes it so great. And what does this consist of? the hollow-sounding recording and the crowd noise - i don't mean obnoxious yelling into a microphone or whistles or foghorns - if you read my post then you would see i didnt say anything about an MC or that shit.

But whatever, disregard my question if you think its a joke. This thread was a serious post, and i have seen it done before (i.e. another TranceAddict at one point posted a mix he made himself on the computer, and inserted crowdnoise...... i was awaiting his response).

To everyone else,

SAWED OFF!

-ABT-

heh..I think you are missing the whole point here....YOu have to earn an audience....you have to gain respect for people to cheer for you and come to see you play.....you have not done this, so why try to fake it? Do you fuck your girlfriend with a dildo if you have a cock? *sorry, for being so vocal on this, but that is dumb, and if people start doing this, it will be a disgrace and disrespectful to actual good Dj's"

OK smartass,
I am a resident DJ at a local shite club here in Ft. Laud.... i do have crowds at my shows. This is not my question. Yes i have recorded mixes at the clubs... But I can't always play the records I want at the clubs (this is how it works for DJ's, ok?) You have to play either:
A) what the format of the club is
or
B) what the crowd is feeling (which is not always what YOU want to play......)

My point? I wanted to try making a mix on the computer (i've never tried it, wanted to try it for shits and giggles), and i know that livesets are better with background noise.

I wanted to make a liveset of all tracks that I want in the order that I want (which i cannot do in the club), hence my question.

There is no need for someone to be so trite with me about it. This has nothing to do with "stealing thunder" or "pretending to be famous", i was asking a question for my own personal use. I am not going to sell the CD or anything, so
RELAX!

You need to chill out, and stop being so quick to criticize.

-ABT-

heh...you still don't get it do you? I am a resident DJ at a club, and I DO play what I want when I want, because it took me many years of playing shit I didn't like eithier to get where I am.....You are just starting out as a DJ, don't fake being a big shot unless you want to get laughed off your local scene.... Anyway, I dunno why I am taking such effort into this thread...if you are to good for my advice then go do it......what the fuck do I know

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Originally posted by CKerr812 I dunno why I am taking such effort into this thread...if you are to good for my advice then go do it.

dude, WTF is with the ATTITUDE?????? you've been dishing it since post #1.... not my fault your bitter, aight? first of all, i don't see how i ever said i'm "too good" for your advice... you never gave me any advice - you just laughed and said that is the "weakest" thing you've ever heard...

I never claimed to be a big shot - read my post, i said i spin in a SHITE club..... but at least i do. I've been spinning for years, but haven't spun in clubs until recently. Sorry i'm not as "good" as you... jesus christ.

TranceAddict is supposed to be about helping people... but if you think you are so great and on a better level that others don't "deserve" what you get than fine.

and please, yes, do me a favor and do not respond anymore. I am looking for help, not ridicule.

-ABT-

And BTW, please don't give any "sad" stories about how you had to spin for "years" to get where you were..... i've known people that are TOPS on the tables and have been spinning for over 10 years, and STILL aren't residents anywhere! not everyone gets big breaks..... funny that you aren't even a big-name DJ and you already have the attitude that would make Judge Jules jealous!

sorry to say but i believe Ckerr812 is right, why would u want to do it anyway? Its pretty stupid to me...why dont u get some tables then actually play infront of an audience

You are all missing the point, he just wants to know how to do it, because it adds atmosphere to a set... it's not like he's gonna make money out of it or anything he just wants to make a set and add some crowd cheering here and there to make it sound cool.

Paul Oakenfold did this on one of his cd's before, it sounds awesome even though the crowd is not real.

Also, maybe abt will share this set with us when he figures out how to do it right, which in the end benefits us!

Shit!!

Hi all,

Give ABT an anwser on his question!! He's just curious how he can add crowd noises to his mix. What's wrong with this,..??

Some people are just too serious!

Greetz,
Blighty

Oh yeah!!

Hi,

It's "anwser TO his question" Sorry, i'm Dutch

Greetz,
Blighty

hey ABT,
I just want you to know that I never laughed at your idea. but I remember trying it once.... (I played a part of a Tiesto live set just for the crowd noise), and nobody payed attention to the crowd noises. they care about the music. not the backgroud noises. but, in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with trying.
if you want to record a track of crowd noises, here's what you should do:
get all of your friends, neighbours, girlfriend, family, and tell each of them to bring their friends so that eventually you have.... ALOT of people . then, stuff them all in a studio room (you could rent a studio for recording), or if you don't have the money, just stuff them in a big room with a mic, or even a few mics, and just tell them to make noise!!!!! (make sure it's cheering noise... hehe)
and record it... and voila! you got crowd noise!!!

okay, I know it's a very stupid idea, and you don't have to use it. but I've never done anything like that.... and besides, got any better ideas?

Get a live set with lots of space in it (I'm thinking along the lines of the beginning of Chicane at Palladium - 01.22.00) and copy the crowd noises from the dead spaces. Or you could probably get some great noise from any live recording of a rock concert (Blues Traveler - Live From The Fall comes to mind - check the endings of each track). Or even better yet, sneak a mini-cassette recorder into a party and record some shit with that - or have a friend come to one of your gigs with one and record what's going on out there. Just make a bunch of clips and you can probably fuck 'em around so they sound like one big mess 'o noise.

I did this for an intro to a promo mix cd that I made, essentially I just took the crowd noise from the beginning of Chicane's set, loaded it up into a sound editor and copied the sound twice - it was crowd noise fading in. Then I reversed the second copy and stuck the two together - the good thing about noise like that is that you can just slap two copies of the same thing together, make one of them backwards, and it still sounds just fine. Sure, if you listen REALLY HARD you can tell that the second half of the sample was a little screwy, but who's listening hard anyway, especially when you're playing stuff over it?

Good luck.

THANK YOU!

My friends! I was wondering where all yall were.... anyways, yes, Cable and Blighty are correct, i am not searching to "cheat" anything, just my personal tastes i prefer the crowdnoise! Anyhow, yes hypersonic, noted on your suggestion (lol.... but i think that would be too much trouble! besides, i could just record the crowdnoise at the club i spin at...)

I think trypsin's idea is the best - take crowdnoise from a liveset, and loop it at given points in the set that i make...... granted, it would take a LOT of effort, but i'll give it a shot. I'll let you guys know how it came out.

Thanks a million for all the honest, reasonable answers guys!

-ABT-

For fucks sake. God you all sound like a bunch of wannabe yahoo dj's or something. Just chill out!!

Ok ABT loop some audio of an live session and copy and paste it into say cool edit pro then go to both ends of the clip and make sure you click "go to next zero crossing" and then loop the selection. Then you could try sticking the loop through a reverb filter to get a warmer more live sound to it and then mix down the two tracks (the loop and the audio track.

Good luck

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Originally posted by Tranzmit For fucks sake. God you all sound like a bunch of wannabe yahoo dj's or something. Just chill out!! Ok ABT loop some audio of an live session and copy and paste it into say cool edit pro then go to both ends of the clip and make sure you click "go to next zero crossing" and then loop the selection. Then you could try sticking the loop through a reverb filter to get a warmer more live sound to it and then mix down the two tracks (the loop and the audio track. Good luck

Wow! Deja Vu! That's pretty much exactly what I said!

I guess great minds just think alike.

If you reread the post again you'll see that main gist wasn't the loop as you already gave him that idea (even though it's as obvious as hell). the important thing is that he makes sure when he does do the looping that there aren't any clicks so if he does as i said and also finds the right part to loop he won't have problems with it sounding tinney or fake and then all he's gotta do is stick it through the reverb filter to the audio track to warm it up and it'll sound pretty good.

yeah, guys.... I guess your ideas are better than mine.... ALOT less trouble.... lol
oh well.......

Actually i know the best way to do it....Turn your mic on......scream into it..as if you were on a big party...then you record once again and then you scream in another way...as if someone else did it...do this a couple of thousand times...and the put them all togheter...and Voila! You got your own crowd! Hope this isnt to much trouble!

got a third channel?
hook up either a sampler or a pc (or a home-burnt cd with crowd noise on it)
you can use a crowd-sample and loop it and mix it in and out.... however for it not to get "boring" ya would need a long crowdsample....dunno where ya can get that....when crowds cheer they usually hear sumpin too
*use my third channel for blendin in vocal samples-->more fun*

btw, i don't enjoy a live-set for the crowdnoise....i enjoy it for the actual mixing
Greetz Pj

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