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Campaign Finance Reform - Democrats in Violation with 527 Groups?
I know the majority of you are for some kind of campaign finance reform laws, so what are your opinions on 527 groups? For you non-Americans, basically the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform laws that were recently passed, banned "soft money" contributions to national political parties. What this means, is that there is a contribution cap (of $2000 I believe) that donors can make to political parties.
527 Groups, however, bypass these regulations so long as they do not air ads that directly support a candidate. In doing so, they are not subject to ANY "soft money" limitations and can freely accept large donations from any individual ... we've seen an example of such activity through George Soros's $5 million contributions to Media Fund and MoveOn.org who have already began airing anti-Bush ads in the mainstream media.
Personally, I think this is a HUGE loophole in the spirit and intent of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform laws and that these holes should be closed immediately. To put it bluntly, it simply gives political parties the ability to outsource their political fundraising. And despite the fact that the democrats (who are the largest transgressors of this loophole) are significantly disadvantaged to the publicans with respects to their fund-raising does not legitamize their actions. Thoughts?
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| Originally posted by occrider 527 Groups, however, bypass these regulations so long as they do not air ads that directly support a candidate. In doing so, they are not subject to ANY "soft money" limitations and can freely accept large donations from any individual ... we've seen an example of such activity through George Soros's $5 million contributions to Media Fund and MoveOn.org who have already began airing anti-Bush ads in the mainstream media. |
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| Originally posted by Miss Bliss So they get around the law because they don't air ads directly IN SUPPORT OF a candidate, but instead ads that are AGAINST a candidate? *crickets* That's interesting. |
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| Originally posted by occrider Well I've seen the MoveOn.org ads. I haven't heard the logcabin republican ads or the mediafund ads, but I can definitively state that the MoveOn ad was anti-bush. Now whether the ad is provoking the viewer to vote for Nader or Kerry is up in the air, but I think the intent and the message is fairly obvious as for what you should do. |
You can't really catch someone on that becuase you can't say that the ad "insinuates" that you should vote for Kerry. That wouldn't be hard enough evidence...
Occrider I agree with you about Soros and I'm also tired of big money corrupting politics, but the majority of MoveOn's money for its voter fund comes from small individual contributions.
I'd also favor capping contributions to candidates at lower than $2000 dollars.
Just do what Bush does. Stage a "fund raising" banquet at $1,000 a plate. Wait, the democrats already do. Hurray, USA!!!
F*uck 'em all. Cage death-match for president.
Re: Campaign Finance Reform - Democrats in Violation with 527 Groups?
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| Originally posted by occrider I know the majority of you are for some kind of campaign finance reform laws, so what are your opinions on 527 groups? For you non-Americans, basically the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform laws that were recently passed, banned "soft money" contributions to national political parties. What this means, is that there is a contribution cap (of $2000 I believe) that donors can make to political parties. 527 Groups, however, bypass these regulations so long as they do not air ads that directly support a candidate. In doing so, they are not subject to ANY "soft money" limitations and can freely accept large donations from any individual ... we've seen an example of such activity through George Soros's $5 million contributions to Media Fund and MoveOn.org who have already began airing anti-Bush ads in the mainstream media. Personally, I think this is a HUGE loophole in the spirit and intent of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform laws and that these holes should be closed immediately. To put it bluntly, it simply gives political parties the ability to outsource their political fundraising. And despite the fact that the democrats (who are the largest transgressors of this loophole) are significantly disadvantaged to the publicans with respects to their fund-raising does not legitamize their actions. Thoughts? |
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| Ickesy situation E.J. Dionne, Jr. - Washington Post Writers Group 03.16.04 - WASHINGTON -- Harold Ickes has put reform-minded Democrats in a spot -- and on the spot. Ickes, a shrewd former top lieutenant to Bill Clinton, is the maestro behind the Media Fund, a group that is raising big bucks from wealthy donors to run advertisements against President Bush. Ickes was once described by an adversary within the Democratic Party as "a nuclear weapon." The adversary meant it as a compliment. Democrats committed to reforming the political money system worry that this time, Ickes has aimed his nukes at laws that restrict the flow of large and unregulated contributions into the political realm. The reformers have been on a high ever since the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the 2002 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, which shut off the flow of "soft money" -- those big, unlimited contributions -- to the political parties. Thanks to the new law, usually known after its Senate sponsors, John McCain and Russ Feingold, contributions to candidates are limited to $2,000 per person, with limits set higher for political action committees and parties. Politicians are forbidden from raising soft money. That eliminates the spectacle of elected officials asking for huge donations from the lobbyists and business people whose interests they affect. Along comes Ickes with a new idea. Under Section 527 of the tax code, political committees get special tax treatment as not-for-profit operations. Ickes created a special 527 committee to raise money for ads directed at Bush. With Bush saturating swing states with his own media spots, Ickes asked, shouldn't Democrats find a way to respond? So Ickes traveled the country in search of help from rich Democrats. Billionaire George Soros was happy to help with a reported $5 million in contributions. Other wealthy Bush foes are said to have given almost as much. Ickes argues that the McCain-Feingold law imposes no new regulations on committees such as his. That is technically true. Feingold himself insists that the reform law is still working because "it is preventing people in public life from engaging in this kind of fund-raising" -- Ickes has raised his own money -- and because the parties are raising a lot more in smaller contributions. But Ickes' claim is also beside the point. The real issue is whether his group should be required, under the law as it existed before McCain-Feingold, to register with the Federal Election Commission because it is a group whose main purpose is to defeat a candidate for federal office. If Ickes had to register, federal law would make it harder for him to raise and spend those big contributions. Ickes insists that the law does not require him to register. But as Feingold, a Democrat, notes, it's hard to see that the Media Fund has any other purpose than beating Bush. "My view is that groups that claim a tax exemption because their primary purpose is to influence elections should be required to register as political committees with the FEC, unless their activities are entirely directed at state and local elections," Feingold told the Senate Rules Committee last week. Under earlier Supreme Court rulings, Ickes and his allies could accomplish much of what they want without running so close to (or over) the edge of the law. Nothing stops Soros as an individual from sponsoring his own independent advertising campaign, and unions have the capacity to run "issue ads" between now and September. But there is a larger point: If Ickes succeeds, does anyone doubt that Republicans will find more than enough rich people to finance groups on the Ickes model -- and probably outspend Ickes? The Media Fund is also based on a premise that no longer applies. Many Democrats assumed that their nominee would accept federal matching funds during the primaries and would thus be unable to raise money in the pre-convention period. But John Kerry turned down the matching funds and, learning from Howard Dean, is doing very well in courting large numbers of smaller contributors. A lot of Democratic reformers would prefer not to talk about the Media Fund. They're grateful for its work and don't want to challenge efforts to beat Bush on the basis of what they see as a close legal question. Such Democrats say that many Republicans who have opposed limits on campaign fund-raising in the past are now being hypocritical in going after Ickes. That's true but, I fear, shortsighted. My hunch is that in the long run, the country -- and, yes, especially Democrats -- will regret opening a new loophole in the campaign money system so soon after some of the more notorious of the old ones were shut down. (c) 2004, Washington Post Writers Group URL: http://www.workingforchange.com/art...fm?itemid=16599 |
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