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I wanted to find a visualization program that works with LIVE music. I have found some really cheapy ones.... What would be perfect is something that can play the winamp 5 visualization plugins with live music. Is Winamp capable of this? Is there some other program that can use these files?

wow i had always wanted to do this too...hook up my mixer to my computer and while i'm spinning have those visualizations on the screen. that'd be hot.

i want to know of any too!

you can actually use winamp. it has this built in plugin called lineinput or something like that. I've seen it done at a house party i spun at.

That's exactly what I was looking for, but I have no idea how to set that up or use it. The effects that it creates are amazing and would really add to any house party or club setting. There has to be someone here who knows the proper way to set up winamp to use a line input for its visualization plugins.

Steps:

1. Download the LineIn plugin for Winamp 2/5 here.
2. Plug your mixer output into the line-in jack of your sound card.
3. Start Winamp.
4. Select ADD URL in the playlist window. Add the URL "line://srate=48000,numbuffers=5000,bufsize=s576,title=High Quality (VIS),hideformat" (without the quotation marks)
5. Press Play.
6. Start the Winamp visualization of your choice.
7. Start spinning!

Laserjock, if that works buddy....
then you are pure brilliance.

line://srate=48000,numbuffers=5000,bufsize=s576,title=High Quality (VIS),hideformat

what is supposed to do after u press play? it doesn't connect here

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Originally posted by Dirk W. Laserjock, if that works buddy.... then you are pure brilliance.

Apparently it doesn't work...that's what I get for not actually trying it. However, a lot of Winamp plugins like G-Force and R4 can run in standalone mode in addition to running as Winamp plugins. I just tried running R4 in standalone mode while my mixer was plugged into my laptop's line-in jack, and it detects the line-in signal automatically and visualizes it.

Look on winamp.com, there's a line in plugin that would make las3r's idea work.

Laserjock, you're still a genius - sorta.... I got it to work using what you said. I dowloaded the program, installed it, and then in WinAmp 5 opened the URL line you gave us. It plays it. What I then had to do was turn off the line in volume because I was getting a double dose of the music. The visualizations work perfectly with it.

One problem - It is buffered with about a 2 second delay. The record is nearly 2 seconds ahead of the music being visualized and coming over the computer speakers. I don't think you can get rid of that either. Got any ideas? It's almost working.....

I'm sure you can look into the buffer settings in Winamp and just turn the buffer way down.

Also, you may need to turn down the resolution of the vis plugin for fullscreen... the Winamp vis plugins are *really really* processor hungry - i can't run anything higher really than (i think) 640 x 480 x 16bit on an Athlon XP1800 with 256 meg without really slow framerates.

ok so let's pretend i'm an idiot with computers. (cough cough)

so can we go through those steps again? the ones that actually work? i'm not sure what to download or do. i would really want to do this too, seems cool. thanks

So yea.... Did we ever figure out how to get rid of the lag using this plugin for winamp?

ok people, well I hope this all works for you aswell, but I don't have any input plugins, I just have Winamp 5 and a load of Visuals, and all I do to make this work is goto, ADD > URL then type in "linein://" I use it alot, and it works on my laptop, with whatever I plug into the microphone input, as for lag, I'm lucky, I don't have any, its awesome to watch when your scratching, especially, when you have it hooked up to an external monitor and a TV, oh and its awesome for house partys, I always use Milkdrop, well good luck, I hope its easy for everyone else to get going.

EDIT: oh yea, after adding the linein link, don't forget to press play after selecting the link in the playlist, I've had afew people say it doesn't work cos they never clicked play.

get a vj if you want some real visuals


I personaly vj and our people always make fun of others trying to make visuals with winamp.

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Originally posted by Nou What sorta applications/hardware do you use? Do you use like a video mixer and those DVD's with random movie clips?

Computers.... video projectors ... cameras ... the list is huge ... and much pricier then djing

Yeah video mixers come in play .... but is this this you speak of ? Dvd's with random movie clips? That sounds like a terrible idea.

Most of the content I mix when I do visuals is stuff I filmed/created myself or people I work with.

One difference with vjing is that you try and use your own content the most .... nothing "copied" ( even if it can be done ( like stuff off the tv and such but it's kinda crappy to do that ) ) ... it's just not creative and it's considered cheating.

click here for an article that explains a little more
pic of a club where I performed for 500+ people
Site with more info on vjing

question: you say you use line in (your mic jack) now i know that it's not good to put your mixer's output into your mic jack...it can actually do bad shit to your soundcard, because the signal is too strong or something...

are you sure it's your mic input , and not your sound input?

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Originally posted by dknylady question: you say you use line in (your mic jack) now i know that it's not good to put your mixer's output into your mic jack...it can actually do bad shit to your soundcard, because the signal is too strong or something... are you sure it's your mic input , and not your sound input?

I always get the two mixed up ( what's the most sensitive input compared to the other ) but yes if you do plug into the incorrect input you can damage your sound card severely.

( I think mic input is the most sensitive so if you plug a line level source into it you'll get distortion and it could potentialy destroy the input ).

Line level sources tend to have a much higher dbm then microphones.

Your mixer should be plugged into line input .... if you plug into the mic input it's bad.

Prodigy child, you have lived up to your name. That linein:// procedure is a lot simpler and gets the job done correctly. Thank you for the advice.
PS:
Get a VJ.... pftt, I don't need no stinkin VJ.

Glad to hear it worked again Dirk, and yea, I don't need a VJ, my mixing makes up for the lack of visuals, but they are nice still, and as for the mic sensitivity thing, well its true, it can damage the input, but when I use my laptop I only have one input and thats the Mic input, all you do is make sure that the Mic db Boost is of, and make sure the channel is turned down, then plug your mixer in, and adjust so its not to loud but it effects the visuals good enough, I've been doing it for ages and the Mic input is fine, but theres still a chance you could damage it, but I been lucky and don't care anyway, I don't use the input for anything else, but if you people want to do this on a laptop, but don't want to use the Mic input then you could buy a PCMCIA sound card, theres one called the Indigo I/O card, and it comes with a Line input and a Line output, and I think its capable of 96khz, I'm looking into getting one in the future so I can record mixes onto my lappy aswell, well hope this info helps some.

If you really must use winamp plugins instead of a proper VJ (you want visuals but VJ's are not needed )

see here:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?&threadid=64973

sadly the images are not there anymore I'll have to get them again on repost them in that thread.

Also Follow the steps in 4. Tweaking as you need that to stop an latency issues.

As most DJ's cannot use a mix /amp you *may* need to monitor the sound input coming in. It needs really to be a managable level.
Most Dj's will just keep increasing the volume via the mixer and it will screw all the input sound at the end of the night when the levels all max out. Depends on the DJ and mixer though.

Be careful on what resolution your projector can take so don't go mad.

Then run MilkDrop, R4 (well that will work standalone), etc.

jdat,

Good to see you are still at the VJ'ing lark.
Do you post on VJforums??!

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Originally posted by Rovastar jdat, Good to see you are still at the VJ'ing lark. Do you post on VJforums??!

I lurk a lot on there .... don't have much to say .. but I've posted some

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