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Posted by Mossy on Mar-17-2004 12:19:

why's it so easy to produce cheese?!?!

mmmm edam trance. All my best work is close to Lasgo standards of international trance brie. I have just got off the phone from Scooter and they are disgusted that I have stolen all their riffs!

and yet if i try and make dark music, it sounds like im about to top myself. The jackyl and hyde of trance camembert. Enough of the cheese references I feel.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Mar-17-2004 14:21:

It wouldn't be cheese if it wasn't easy to do


Posted by John on Mar-17-2004 16:41:

http://www.ebs.hw.ac.uk/SDA/cheese2.html

not that easy i reckon

and lasgo productions might be cheese, the sound is pro. and im not able to create those sounds (that could also be a good thing ofcours heheh), so again, i think it's not that easy


Posted by Damie Mckeown on Mar-17-2004 17:50:

Commercial Music has really good mixing however. I dont prefer cheese but sometimes I find that Commercial Dance has more Order and Sense, where as other stuff can seem dragged on and messy.

Id Listen to scooter anyday over a progressive house track that goes nowhere, with no chord changes for 10mins.

But if we are purley on about Cheese and not 'Commercial' music, then yeah its easier to create. But just as difficult to mix as any other.


Posted by dbl on Mar-17-2004 18:20:

so you can make money faster offcourse


Posted by Trancevision on Mar-17-2004 18:40:

yes...cheese.



I think that some of the so called cheese productions have besides high end sound quality have certain little elements and some quite nice ideas: The synth in Lasgo's "Something" which is in the beginning, the drums of the safri cheese duo, the armin guitar and vocals in "yet another day".
Those little details added to this songs help them to get attention beside a catchy melody and a good makreting strategy.

why don't we make a cheese competetion and see if it's really easy

to create a catchy melody in combination with an high quality standard lead sound, a really clean bassline .

a cheese compo...perhaps some of us get signed them *lol*


Trancevision


Posted by CrackedLcd on Mar-17-2004 18:58:

I find it really hard to produce cheese. If you can make really catchy melodies it can be easy. Cheese sounds so clean. The mixdown and mastering is so paerfect sounding on most cheese songs.


Posted by Damie Mckeown on Mar-17-2004 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancevision
why don't we make a cheese competetion and see if it's really easy


Im up for it


Posted by TranceMasterUk on Mar-17-2004 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Damie Mckeown
Im up for it


ill second that
could be very interesting.


Posted by Fractal on Mar-17-2004 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancevision


why don't we make a cheese competetion and see if it's really easy

a cheese compo...perhaps some of us get signed them *lol*


yeah ,after all why not


Posted by dbl on Mar-17-2004 23:08:

i'm up for some cheeese competition


Posted by Sean Walsh on Mar-17-2004 23:19:

Oh man I'm all over the cheese competition, hahaha. Sounds like it would be a lot of fun.


Posted by John on Mar-18-2004 01:13:

lol sounds great

im gonna email alice dj to see if she wants to help me on the vocals


Posted by brian on Mar-18-2004 01:26:

Presets.


Posted by MrCowski on Mar-18-2004 03:14:

Heh I'd enter. I'm just finishing up some quality cheese with a pretty good melody right now, just need to mix and master :-D.


Posted by Damie Mckeown on Mar-18-2004 04:30:

Announce a CHEESE COMPETITION already!!!!!

thing is.....how do you win?


Posted by Trancevision on Mar-18-2004 17:54:

didn't mean it serious at first, but I begin to like the idea.

several possibilites.

1) We could make a comp. which says: Producing a dance chart hits, trance cheese sound --> lots of different types of tracks

2) we could make a motto competition and repeat it if succesful, e.g.
"Create a Barthezz sytled track" and everyone tries out how easy or difficult it is to copy the sound in its arrangement, catchy cheesy melody, sound quality and mixdown.

I guess we would learn much about production because we would have been forced to copy someone, which seems to beunoriginal but improves skills and discpline.


Trancevision


Posted by shampones on Mar-19-2004 05:31:

old kick, persussion, drum roll + new midi file with main melody= new song

cheese doctors love to use their old stuff, its called recycle, i use it too.
lol


Posted by Subtle on Mar-19-2004 12:24:

Cheese is easy to produce cause it lacks depth


Posted by Limit on Mar-19-2004 22:10:

to make em cheezy it's so eazy!It would be fun to hear all your chees productions but I think I'll pass since I'm pretty much a pro in that department and i'm now working on more complex and unpredictable style of trance. But hey you gotta love the cheese!

Limit Out!


Posted by MrCowski on Mar-20-2004 07:54:

Um, there's already a cheese comp. Just look down the threads a bit. I started the thread a few days ago.



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