Is Tiesto allowed to do this......

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Posted by burns on Aug-18-2001 20:13:

Is Tiesto allowed to do this......

I have ripped a few DJ Tiesto sets online lately , and not so long ago whatch his live gatecrasher set on tv, i reconised tiesto had ripped a few of the mixes from previous sets again , in other words the same mixes from other sets, Is it just me or is this allowed, i know judge jules wouldent do this , and if i was on like �5,000 a set , i would certainly not repaeat the same mix from a previous set. Has any-body else reconised this, or does any-one have any thoughts on this, I still Think Tiesto is the best in world , But just a little puzzled about this ..... Burnham

Posted by rawkus rowan on Aug-19-2001 00:30:

are you sure mate, i mean, i'm not doubting you completely but i do find that very hard to believe, have you got any proof, such as two livesets with the same mix on? maybe he is sooooo good, that he is able to perform the same identical mix at two different venues? just a thought, you know, djs do find two tunes that blend together perfectly and tend to mix these two tunes many times, they can get away with it because 99% of the crowd they are playing to will be different from the previous one

RR

Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Aug-19-2001 00:39:

I wouldn't see why he wouldn't be able to do that if that's what he wants to do, I mean look @ them pop singers...they don't actually sing during their concerts. Most lipsync, and they still get huge ass crowds and it's legal (*NSuck is in town here 2night "singing" infront of 45,000 people).

But I hope this is not where things headed though...premixed livesets, that would suck.

Posted by Frank V on Aug-19-2001 11:21:

the same is @ PVD casino ( 17 11 00 ) & Innercity ( 30 11 00 )

Posted by cryptic_reign on Aug-19-2001 14:12:

If you found two records that mixed together perfectly (not just the beats, but the melody, timing, ambiance, etc etc) would you not do this mix a couple of times??? Also, the DJ's are playing for the crowd, they are not playing for home listeners that can download all their sets.

BTW, you saw a set of his on TV?!?!?!?!?!?!? Dam you!!!! argh, i hate america!

Posted by bachatu on Aug-20-2001 04:16:

My thoughts exactly

quote:
Originally posted by cryptic_reign
If you found two records that mixed together perfectly (not just the beats, but the melody, timing, ambiance, etc etc) would you not do this mix a couple of times??? Also, the DJ's are playing for the crowd, they are not playing for home listeners that can download all their sets.

BTW, you saw a set of his on TV?!?!?!?!?!?!? Dam you!!!! argh, i hate america!

I totally agree! Tiesto feels out the crowd. Depending on the vibe he gets from the people and the way the night is going, determines the cards he throws on the table. I doubt that he is thinking "hmm... I wonder who is going to download this live set".

Posted by naeblis on Aug-20-2001 05:37:

Whatever the crowd wants, tiesto delivers...simple as that.
and what works for him.. works for me.

Posted by SpaZmawookie on Aug-20-2001 07:07:

i wouldnt be surprised
there are a few PVD sets where he plays the same tracks in sucession, and i think JJ has too
i mean, if ure playing as much as some of these guys ure hardly gunna rember wot 2 trakc su played together 2 weeks and 10gigs earlier

Posted by tu_face on Aug-20-2001 07:17:

every DJ does this and i think it will continue to happen. it doesnt really matter to me either... if a mix soundz good then yeah the DJ is gunna do that again for a different crowd.

Tiesto is arguably the best there is at his job, and that remains true even if he does the same mix a few times

Posted by burns on Aug-20-2001 08:02:

tiesto

yeah, i think we settles it, tiesto is the daddy and repeating a mix is cool ( as long as its sweet) which it always is any-ways....respect tiesto, hes the best at his job in the world... case settled ?

Posted by arjoderoon on Aug-20-2001 08:35:

it's simple. there aren't so many great tracks produced anymore so he has to play the same tracks at different gigs. he always did, and if you check out beam.to/djsets, where you can find a lot tracklistings, you will see every dj does play the same tracks, but in a different order most of the time.
in trance we trust

Posted by Kartikeya on Aug-20-2001 08:58:

Re: My thoughts exactly

quote:
Originally posted by bachatu

I totally agree! Tiesto feels out the crowd. Depending on the vibe he gets from the people and the way the night is going, determines the cards he throws on the table. I doubt that he is thinking "hmm... I wonder who is going to download this live set".

k dude I agree that Tiesto is one of the best dj's on earth but he doesn't feel out the crowd!!!

if you ever went to a gig were Tiesto plays he always starts selecting all the Vinyls he is going to play later on the party.

Respect for Tiesto but this is his only bad thing

Cheers,

K A R T

Posted by djdawn on Aug-20-2001 09:35:

Re: Re: My thoughts exactly

quote:
Originally posted by Kartikeya

but he doesn't feel out the crowd!!!

if you ever went to a gig were Tiesto plays he always starts selecting all the Vinyls he is going to play later on the party.

I do that, too. But I still feel the crowd. I pick out 10-15 records that I would like to play, but that doesn't mean that I ignore the other records in my case. If I notice that the peeps are more into the hard stuff, I'll pick something they like.
Selecting those records in advance only gets you going and helps you find a record FAST when you need it.
I don't think this ends up in ignoring the crowd.

Posted by Henkie_henk on Aug-20-2001 11:55:

Im not quite sure if i believe that.. tiesto ripped stuff from his previous sets..

I do know that (i think marco V) did a pre mixed tape on sensation... that was soooooo lame..

I also think he got quite allot of hatemail (at least 1 from me)

I dont think and hope trance aint going into the pop (pre mixed/non live) style..

GreeeetZz

Posted by TimeportE on Aug-20-2001 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Henkie_henk
Im not quite sure if i believe that.. tiesto ripped stuff from his previous sets..

I do know that (i think marco V) did a pre mixed tape on sensation... that was soooooo lame..

I also think he got quite allot of hatemail (at least 1 from me)

I dont think and hope trance aint going into the pop (pre mixed/non live) style..

GreeeetZz

I know that Marco V. does some crazy stuff.. I last heard his live at Club eau set and the last couple of numbers a exactly mixed the same as at sensation!.. It's the part with Rank 1 - Such Is Life (Deep Dub Mix) and DJ Tomcraft - Prosac (Tony H Yeah Remix).. Maybe I'm mistaken but I find it strange!

Posted by Kartikeya on Aug-20-2001 16:13:

your right...

he does that in 3 other sets!!!!!

Mysteryland
>>>O<<< Arnhem
Sensation
>>>O<<< The Hague

prety pathetic in my eyes.....

Greetz,

K A R T

Posted by Leshiy on Aug-20-2001 23:13:

Guys you gotta understand that DJ find out how to mix tracks by himself and if he did it for several times the same way maybe its his style of mixing ?

Im confused hearing about pre recorded tape on Sensation, is it true, Henkie henk?

Posted by eXos on Aug-20-2001 23:25:

Just listen to Marco V @ Massive and Marco V @ Qontact. It's almost the same. You just listen to the live sets. But when you whitness it in real live, you don't care. Sure they play the same songs over and over. What did you expact, that they have new quality records every single week. No, thats not how it works my friend.

Posted by Henkie_henk on Aug-20-2001 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Leshiy

Im confused hearing about pre recorded tape on Sensation, is it true, Henkie henk?

Yep its true.. thx you Petrus.. for pointing out this question

Posted by Kartikeya on Aug-21-2001 10:26:

quote:
Originally posted by !_PeTrUs_!
Sure they play the same songs over and over. What did you expact, that they have new quality records every single week. No, thats not how it works my friend.

That's not totally true what your saying....The top dj's from Holland receive over 200 records a week!!!!! and you wanna tell me there isn't a single track in those 200 that's quality?

We had the same discussion about the Magik 7 cd.....
my opinion is:"don't always play the same sets.....use variation in the set......

come on you can't tell me that you don't have any problem with Marco V mixing Rank 1 - Such is Life (deep dub) with dj Tomcraft - Prosac
everytime

Greetz,

k A R T

Posted by burns on Aug-21-2001 13:22:

total agree

K A R T , Just completly answered my question, jules recieves 250 - 300 records a week, so pklease dont say theres not one good record amongst them.......wahhhh ..... Greetz

Posted by Leigh on Aug-21-2001 13:54:

how would you guys know? do you receive promos? it is very likely that it takes 500 records to find a decent one or two. most of the records that ARE released these days are total crap - imagine what the promos are like. so many times i have to sift through hundreds of records in the local shop to find one thats half decent. they all sound the same - cheesy and predictable.

imagine what the world would be like if the majority of promos were quality though... a dj could play a completely different set every week - perhaps every night! makes you wonder hey

Posted by Kartikeya on Aug-21-2001 14:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Leigh
how would you guys know? do you receive promos? it is very likely that it takes 500 records to find a decent one or two. most of the records that ARE released these days are total crap - imagine what the promos are like. so many times i have to sift through hundreds of records in the local shop to find one thats half decent. they all sound the same - cheesy and predictable.

dude if you follow the scene a bit then you should know that they receive over the 200 promo's a week, because they are on the top of the promo lists in Holland......it's well known news.......

dude maybe you shifted through hundreds of promo's that are cheesy...
no wonder.....do you have a status like tiesto, Marco V etc.? i don't think so (i don't think you get hold to new marco V productions...)

BTW these guys get the records sended to their homes.....

quote:
Originally posted by Leigh
imagine what the world would be like if the majority of promos were quality though... a dj could play a completely different set every week - perhaps every night! makes you wonder hey

I Didn't say that all the promos were quality!!!
but atleast more than 10 are quality.....do you think Top Producers send cheesy records to top dj's don't think so dude.....

Greetz,

k A R T

Posted by Leigh on Aug-21-2001 14:49:

you misread what i said. no i dont think top producers are going to send cheesy promos - amateur producers trying to make it big are and there are a lot more of these than top producers, who can only make a certain amount of tracks in a certain amount of time.

you are from holland so there might be a language misunderstanding here, but i wasnt implying that you said all promos were quality i was just entertaining the thought of it.

Posted by Kartikeya on Aug-21-2001 22:15:

okay no problem dude

greetz,

KART