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Behringer B2031 Truth Monitors
I'm about to buy a pair of the Behringer B2031 Truth Monitors and I want to see if there are any reviews.. I.E... if someone has run into a pair of monitors at the same price ($300 USD) that are better... or if you've run into some problems with these..
AND I DID USE THE SEARCH - I found a thread on it, but I wanted to see if there were any new reviews or suggestions..
also, I wanted to know what the difference between the B2031 and B2031A is..
get the 2029A's instead
Someone told me they sound better but they're probably wrong
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| Originally posted by CandyRaver666 get the 2029A's instead Someone told me they sound better but they're probably wrong |
I am yet to hear a good review for the Truth monitors. The place I get my gear from which is one of the, if not the best in Sydney for electronic gear refuse to stock them because of their poor sound. Bass and treble are boosted and while the mid is level, there seems to be a problem with the clarity of the mids. There were reliability issues with them also although I believe these have been sorted out now by Behringer.
My Advice, don't get them. Now I'm sure that heaps of people are now going to post that they have them and they love them, so it's your choice. Just lettin you know.
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| Originally posted by hey cheggy I am yet to hear a good review for the Truth monitors. The place I get my gear from which is one of the, if not the best in Sydney for electronic gear refuse to stock them because of their poor sound. Bass and treble are boosted and while the mid is level, there seems to be a problem with the clarity of the mids. There were reliability issues with them also although I believe these have been sorted out now by Behringer. My Advice, don't get them. Now I'm sure that heaps of people are now going to post that they have them and they love them, so it's your choice. Just lettin you know. |
Not at that price range I don't, sorry. When I bought my monitors, I spent ages listening to tracks, both my own and professionaly made ones on heaps of monitors in my price range.
Actually, I listened to the Alesis ProLinear 720 DSP monitors. They sounded pretty nice, although a little deep. they have different settings which was quite nice. In Aus, they cost $2,600 though which turned me off when they are aus$500 in the states.
http://www.zzounds.com/item--ALEPL720
hrmm.. they're a BIT out of my price range.. double it actually 
A couple others that were recommended to me in this price range:
fostex pm-1
alesis mk2 active
event tr6
anyone know anything about any of those?
I've said it before and I'll say it again :
Whenever you want to know about audio equipment, the first place you should look is www.soundonsound.com
They have good, sensible and usually quite balanced reviews. Work your way from there always.
Behringer Truths
Alesis M1 Active MkII
Events
Foxtex PM 1
This fostex one is an e-sub (means you can't access it until six months after Nov 2003)
Because I'm a nice guy, I'll show you the summary :
pros
Sensibly priced.
Good imaging and sound separation.
Accurate overall tonal balance
cons
The almost over-tight sound may not be to everybody's taste.
summary
On balance, the PM1 has what it takes to deliver good mixes, while remaining in the entry-level price range for active monitors.
At this UK price, the PM1s are amongst the least expensive active studio monitors on the market, but it would still pay to audition several competing models before making your mind up, as different users look for different characteristics in a monitor speaker. I found the Fostex PM1s to be eminently usable in a mix situation and, though every monitor has a characteristic sound, there's nothing about the PM1s that takes much getting used to. Overall, you'll be rewarded by a tight, detailed sound that makes it easy to evaluate what's going on in your mixes.
As mentioned earlier, the mid-range does have a somewhat unyielding character which wouldn't be my preference for a music listening speaker, but in the context of studio monitoring, it seems to help keep the individual sounds separate, so perhaps it's no bad thing. Whichever way you look at it, if you're in the market for active monitors, but don't want to spend a lot of money, there are few serious contenders, and the PM1 is definitely one of them
EDIT
Look at the Genelec 1036A's
Each speaker weighs a measley 401lBs. Good thing the amplifier is 19" rack mountable. But can your rack hold a 156lB load ?
ok.. it's between the behringer b2031 ($300) and the alesis mk2 ($400) according to the reviews..
these will basically be my only piece of hardware aside from my PCI Sound Card (Audiophile)...
I have the $$, but is the difference between the two worth $100?
I'll be using these on a daily basis for everything from producing, to gaming, to watching movies BTW...
Alanzo, don't buy genelecs cause if your using high end monitors in a small room with no acoustic treatment your wasting your money and your not going to benefit from the high fidelity of the speakers .
The Behringer Truth's b2031 or 2031a, difference is in design, new seperate limiter and maybe more, but I don't know as of yet. I'm waiting for the 2031a's.
The alesis mk2 actives are 100 dollars more. Pros: great imaging Cons:unpredictable bass, and they have 2 bass ports which can make it hard to get a good bass response in a small room.
Fostex pm-1: never heard them but i read the review in SOS and they seem ok. They are not shielded and I heard the mids are strange and not to everyones liking.
Bx8's: I heard them and they have no bass, way to harsh, but they do have adjustments on the back and if i had them at home in my room maybe they would sound better.
Events tr8: best of the bunch, these things are 500 a pair but definently better than the rest. very soft sound, pleasant midrange, ample bass but the highs are a bit muddy. Still cant beat performance /price ratio. flat response they translate well. they go low 35-38khz, around there.
tannoy actives; 600, out of my budget also, not enough bass, really clear, but i prefered the events.
Now monitors are a personal choice. what sounds good to one person might sound horrible to another. Th best way is to listen for yourself and make your choice. All this talk about flat response and stuff really isnt important. what is , is that your monitors sound good to you and you can work with them for extended periods oif time without getting ear fatigue. every monitors must be learned, that is why you need to play your favorite tracks through it, and get an idea of what the levals are like so you know where to boost and where to cut when your mixing. Some are clearer than others and offer you better speration of sound, but if your 3-4 feet away in a small room high fidelity imaging isnt really that important. Also the dyns, mackies, genelecs have crystal clear sound, u can hear everything, but for trance music i dont feel its neccessary, as long as u got ample bass response. Trance is played in clubs not on high fidelity stereos like jazz, classical, etc.. No need to hear the bass player flipping the sheet notes. I just found out tiesto uses krk v8's and if you look at this review youll notice they get a lower score than the behringers but his tracks sound great to me probably because he knows his monitors and is comfortable with them and knows the way they should sound so they translate well on big club speakers.
[URL=http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/7EE658E1CBA3A77E86256AE10015266A]
Every big radio hit from the 90's was mixed on ns-10, horrible sounding monitors. They started off as reference monitors too see if the track would sound good on boomboxes, car radios, but eventually became the industry standard cause most tracks are heard throgh car radios, home stereos, ghetto blasters, etc...
If you ever do classical, get the genelecs or adams. for trance any of those will do 
heh.. thanks TranceNRG.. Unfortunatly I can't really listen and compare these two since I live in the middle of nowhere and rely on online stores to buy things..
but since I'll be in a small room environment for at least the next 3 years, the Behringers seem to be best for that.. thanks for the help Cheggy, Candyraver, and NRG..
Cheggy - does that place in Sydney know anything about the B2031A that is coming out in a few weeks? They're supposed to be a massive improvment on the B2031s. Or does anyone else know something about them?
And Cheggy, juding by your signiture I would say your real name is Dan.. you wouldn't happen to to Dan from dcoda would you?
Sorry mate, I thought the price was 350 for the 720s with free shipping. No, Dan is not my name, Dan is the name of the guy in the leprechaun song I made. I don't know Dan from Dcoda but I know Dan from Woollstonecraft.
I don't know about the 2031a. I've bought Behringer before and I refuse to buy from them again. I just think that you should be a little weary of them.
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| Originally posted by hey cheggy Sorry mate, I thought the price was 350 for the 720s with free shipping. No, Dan is not my name, Dan is the name of the guy in the leprechaun song I made. I don't know Dan from Dcoda but I know Dan from Woollstonecraft. I don't know about the 2031a. I've bought Behringer before and I refuse to buy from them again. I just think that you should be a little weary of them. |
Producers who use the B2031's and are signed and have tracks played by top djs (tiesto, pvd, etc..)
http://www.estuera.com/
http://www.octagen-music.com/index.php?id=paul.html
http://www.midor-six4eight.com/
so it is possible to make good tracks on these.
Well I'll post the standard response, I got them, I'm happy about them. They haven't let me down either.
Yes it's true, the highs are a little strident, but that is the case with most titanium dome tweeters (if you want "natural" highs, you need soft dome tweeters).
Stereo imaging is great too, but they need to be in a nice accoustic space too. Even though they are ported, I don't find the bass to be too pronounced, they still retain a good amount of punch.
I'd say their sound is more suited for punch music, so producing trance would be no problem. I've even recorded and mixed classical music with good results, so I can't say they are a bad buy. I agree for most things Behringer can make absolute crap, but on some occasions they get it pretty right (of course you can't compare it with Genelecs the same size (2029 being much smaller), then again they cost 3x as much).
But the main problem I see is that you can't go and test them. You see, monitors are a personal thing. Your hearing is different from mine, and from everyone else. Buying monitors on other people's recommendations isn't really a good idea. You should at all cost try to find a shop somewhere and do comparative listenings, because otherwise you could come up with bad surprises...
Seriously, without joking about the genelecs, what you should buy is dependant upon what you're really trying to do.
If you want to dabble in music and maybe make something cool sounding while playing games and watching DVDs, then buy the Behringers. That's all you're ever going to need. And when you do want to make music, they will sound okay.
But if you're focused on making music - really seriously making music, then buy the M1s. But don't just buy these if you want to dabble, because you'll just feel like you wasted the money down the line.
It's true what trancenrg69 said. You have to learn your monitors and how they translate to other systems in order to mix your material properly.
But, I had an experience with B2031A Truth monitors and there are some things you must now before you decide to go for these.
Letter A after B2031 means that these are active so you don't need a separate amplifier. Just plug them in and you're set to go.
Truths are not bad speakers but I would not call them reference monitors since it's hard to distinguish between different frequencies especially below 100Hz. And you now what that means for trance. Distinct low frequency in trance is a must, but to sound crisp, punchy, deep and tight you have to have a system that will allow you to hear it. The Truths are not good in this department, period. Also, some of the higher frequencies are overexaggerated making it hard to judge how much of those sparkly highs you need.
If you worked with these speakers for a long period of time, you could probably get used to them and would produce good sounding mixes, but I remember when I got a hold of Dynaudio's after producing with Truths, my ears opened up and my mixes started having pristine clarity and just enough bass to rock the club. It's just so easy and pleasant to work with reference monitors that you don't notice how much time passed. I can spend 8 hours listening to Dynaudio's and there is no ear fatigue, which I can not say for the Truths.
Also, beware of Behringer company. I had my right tweeter blown after a year of using the Truths and was never able to replace it. Their customer support sucks. It's like the company does not exist. But, that's just my experience, maybe somebody else had a better one.
When looking to purchase studio monitors, ask yourself what your goal is. Is this your hobby or is this something where you want to try and give your best? Because if your goal is to produce awesome sounding tracks, you can't have a weak link in your audio chain, starting with the sound source and ending with the monitors.
Cheers
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| Originally posted by alanzo Genelec 2029APM $1205.88 I sure hope they sound better Any other suggestions/reviews.. |
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| Originally posted by Design Letter A after B2031 means that these are active so you don't need a separate amplifier. |
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| Originally posted by hexadecimal Mackie HR824 and HR624 monitors sound very close to comparable Genelecs for quite a bit less. |
I can't really comment on how effective they are for producing but spinning on them is great.
anyone have experience with the Event TR5s? Is the bass good on them?
I got a nice deal on a pair of TR6s if anyone cares
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&category=23786
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| anyone have experience with the Event TR5s? Is the bass good on them? |
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| Originally posted by Etherium I had a pair. No, it isn't. Go for the 8s. |
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