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Posted by Abbas on Aug-20-2001 00:25:

Smiley DJ I wanna be like you

Hello,

I wanna start mixing, I dont really know where to start, I thought this woul dbe the place to come .....so I was wondering what r the steps I need to take and how to get started....I've never mixed b4....so help me please!!!


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Aug-20-2001 00:50:

do you have any friends who are DJs? maybe you should try mixing with someone else's equipment, and if you like it, start buying equipment. do you want to mix with CD's or Vinyl??


Posted by Ckerr812 on Aug-20-2001 03:09:

well since your from Hamilton.....I'll give a some tips...Tip number one, move from Hamilton hehe....anyway, if you go downtown to DR.Disc there mark the owner and some of the employees will help ya out, I went there before I bought my equipment and they let me lix and stuff.....haven't been there in awhile so it could be changed now...but CHECK IT OUT, next time you are downtown.


Posted by Abbas on Aug-20-2001 04:34:

No, I don't have any friends that are DJs, I sure would've tried it out, but its something I'm interested in, I won't waste the effort to start and not finish....it's something I'd like to do...I've never heard anybody mix on CD, doesn't seem like the popular choice!?....I'm assuming vinyl is better ofcourse....as I said I don't know much, I don't know where to look


quote:

well since your from Hamilton.....I'll give a some tips...Tip number one, move from Hamilton hehe....anyway, if you go downtown to DR.Disc there mark the owner and some of the employees will help ya out, I went there before I bought my equipment and they let me lix and stuff.....haven't been there in awhile so it could be changed now...but CHECK IT OUT, next time you are downtown.



lol....yeah Hamilton is pretty bad, its not like I party here or intend to get anywhere here.....I'll check out Dr.Disc sometime, thanks for letting me know!


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-21-2001 01:04:

If you want to start mixing without spending too much money than do this:

Get a full or cracked version of a program called "BPM Studio", buy a second soundcard or a SoundBlaster LIVE card, and at the options choose "Sound Options" and make it that the player A will be the first sound card (or the front speakers out, at soundblaster live) and player B will be the second soundcard (or the rear speakers out, at soundblaster live)... now get a mixer (can be a crappy one, it's just for lurning)... and your set.

You can do the same thing with a program called "PCDJ Silver" ... you can download it at www.pcdj.com .


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Aug-21-2001 01:54:

I suggest you get a job, buy some used equipment to start off with, and when you have the money, sell the used equipment and buy some new shit.
you won't be needing much for the begining.... mixer, turntables, headphones, and small monitor speakers......... oh yes, and Vinyl of course.


Posted by Abbas on Aug-21-2001 16:17:

thanks for the advice on how to get started, depending on how much used equipment costs it'll decide if I get that or not, I am a university student after all! ....is there anything I can read, about mixing techniques or like the abc's of mixing, something just ot give me an idea


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-21-2001 21:27:

When you get your equipment all you have to do is just ask and we'll try to help with anything.


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Aug-21-2001 21:36:

yep. alonzo is right.
I learnt all I know about mixing and stuff like that from expirience. I think it's the best way..... when you get your equipment, try it out, see how it's like, and if you have any questions, we'll be more than happy to help.


Posted by Abbas on Aug-22-2001 06:21:

thanks guys!!! ...
I really appreciate the help u've already given me, and thanks for offering more help down the road........I've only gotten support from u guys!, my friends seem to be in disbelief....oh well!!!

Thanks again!!!


Posted by djdawn on Aug-22-2001 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Abbas
I am a university student after all! ....is there anything I can read, about mixing techniques or like the abc's of mixing, something just ot give me an idea


well then, go to the DJ University

I posted this yesterday in a different thread, but it will help you:
http://dju.prodj.com/courses/club/c3.html

check the other courses as well!


Posted by Abbas on Aug-22-2001 17:21:

^^^^^

pretty cool site.....thanks!!


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Aug-22-2001 17:47:

Im selling 2 turntables if your interested


Posted by Abbas on Aug-23-2001 00:56:

hmmmm......sounds interesting......details!?!?


and I was wondering u guys recommended BPM Studio and PCDJ, what about Fruityloops? how is that compared to the others?


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Aug-23-2001 12:34:

of course!!! I recommend PCDJ, and AtomixMP3.....
AtomixMP3 tells you the BPM of each track and it has a "Mix" button so it's very easy to use.....
and PCDJ is very stable, and it's got alot more functions. but PCDJ Silver deosn't have a BPM option......

btw, just a small question: what kind of DJ do you want to be? mobile? club? what kind???????????


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-23-2001 12:48:

BPM Studio is more professional than "PCDJ Silver".. but both are good(notice i'm talking about using them with an external mixer).
Fruity Loops is not a Player/Mixer program... it's a Sequencer/synth program.
Atomixmp3 is not even close to the level of "BPM Studio" or "PCDJ"... it's totaly an amatuer program, can't be used with an external mixer.


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Aug-23-2001 14:46:

Alonzo is right. atomixmp3 is not as good as PCDJ or bmpstudio.
I think it depends if you're gonna use an external mixer.... (2 channels....) but beleive me - it's hard to mix with a computer.... beatmatching and stuff like that is very hard........ I'm doing my best not to use my laptop at my sets..... I do sometimes..... but still - you can never know when your windows decides to preform an "illegal operation" and crash at the best part of a track......


Posted by Abbas on Aug-23-2001 19:39:

alright, that clears some things up ....

quote:

btw, just a small question: what kind of DJ do you want to be? mobile? club? what kind???????????



I was looking at becoming a club DJ.......but just a question, whats a mobile DJ? I've seen it mentioned, I probably know what it is, just dont know that the term that is used for it

I was wondering, if I start out using software and an external mixer, am i gonna suffer when i make a transition to using turntables?


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Aug-24-2001 01:35:

a mobile DJ is a DJ who own his own sound and lighting equipment, comes to your home, or anywhere you tell him to, and builds up his set. you can see mobile DJs at weddings, bar-mitzvahs, birthday parties......... anywhere that has a party going in there and it's not a club.
I'm a mobile DJ..... and I have 2 partners who come with me to my sets. I'm the DJ, one partner is controlling the lights, and the other owns the lights and helps us both...... he can take over the set when I'm tired, or take over the lights..... he does everything we tell him. lol....

anywayz, about your last question, I don't think there will be any suffering going on, as long as you connect your computer and turntables to the same mixer...... if you want to make it easy for yourself, DO NOT buy a 2 channel mixer!!!!! buy one with at least 4!
beleive me, it's best if you want to put a computer too.....
I work with 2 CD players, a computer, a minidisc player, and I'll start saving $$ for turntables as soon as I buy a new pair of speakers..... (being a mobile DJ is alot harder and expensive.... )
and my 4 channel mixer makes it so easy to control everything.....

and if you want to ask what mixer, look for the Gemini PDM-250..... I'm using a Phonic DM-3030, with is exactly the same as the Gemini PDM-250, and I'm very satisfied with it.


Posted by Abbas on Aug-24-2001 02:33:

ok, thats what i thought a mobile DJ was....

and about the mixer....I went around web sites, I didn't see the Gemini PDM-250 or Phonic DM-3030 mixers? actually i saw none by phonic, any web sites u know that could help me out?

and while im asking away here.....headphones, i saw alot, i liked alot, any recommendations?


Posted by djskylz on Aug-24-2001 12:18:

Idea getting started

I started djing bij just buying the things i need, step by step. I doesn't have to be technics, pioneer or denon at first! First decide if you want to mix with cd or vinyl (i prefer vinyl, it's more fun). Then try to find some turntables (direct drive if possible, it's far better then belt drive) or 2 cd players with pitch, and a mixer with equalizer per channel. If you decide to do it a more professional way, you can always upgrade your stuff step by step. I did it this way (i am working with my 3th mixer, 2nd cdplayer and 3rd set of turntables), and it's the easiest way of you don't have that much money. if you still have questions, ask me!! Greetz and good luck, Maarten aka DJ Skylz


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Aug-24-2001 14:32:

well, about the websites, here are some sites who can help you with looking at gear, and even ordering.....

www.geminidj.com (Gemini website)
www.phonic.com (Phonic Website)
www.hollywooddj.com (a HUGE store for DJ equipment)
www.djstore.com (another store, not as big as hollywood dj, but still good)
www.djtronix.com (yet another store)

I think those sites will help you quite alot. if you want more, just ask.

and about the headphones, I'm using a fake of Stanton DJ Pro 60 headphones. their easy to use and for storage cause they fold up to a little bundle.... and their pretty good (even the fake is. ). so I guess I would recommend them for beginners...... but if you want something really good, get the Sony MDRV-700DJ. they cost about 125$ but I heard they kick ass!!! I'm about to buy them.....


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-24-2001 15:28:

DON'T BUY THE GEMINI PDM SERIES!!!

They suck!!! they don't have EQ for each channel, the sound quality is very poor, the are not durable and reliable... don't get them!!!

No matter what mixer you get, make sure it has seperate EQ for each channel!!
If you want a 4 channel mixer whivh is cheap, check out the Stanton RM-100 or the RM-80... if you want cheaper check out the Gemini BPM-500 or the BPM-1000..

Tell me what budget do you have and i'll do my best to help you..

P.S.
Never buy anything from hollywooddj.com or from djstore.com!!! i know alot of ppl who ordered from them and didn't get what they ordered.. and was still charged on it!

Good DJ equipment stores are:
www.audiolines.com
www.musicfactory.com
www.pssl.com

(don't mind the prices, all of those stores match prices from other stores)


Posted by dj alonzo on Aug-24-2001 15:35:

For headphones, do a search some pages back and you'll find a big thread about the best and worst headphones.


Posted by Abbas on Aug-24-2001 22:40:

Alright, thanks for warning me about that...

I checked out the Stanton and Gemini mixers u mentioned, not a big difference in the price of the Stanton and the Gemini models that you mentioned...

im just looking for something good and durable, im not looking to pay that much, my school eats up most of my money, so im looking for something thats alright...i have no exact figure in mind really.....im just starting out so im not looking for something extravagant, but something that can last me for a while


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