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Posted by A.J. on Mar-31-2004 00:45:

Australia vs South Africa

So who got up early and watched the match?

Australia 1 - South Africa 0

Bresciano, 19'


It was a pretty entertaining game in my opinion, and it was good to see the Aussies winning. Bresciano scored the winner off a little Mark Viduka flick pass, with a nice volley from about 12m out.

I thought Bresciano, Schwarzer, Lazaridis, Viduka and Emerton were the top performers for Australia. What the hell was Harry Kewell doing? He looked like he didn't even want to be there.....not a very good performance from him, although he made a few nice passes and runs in the second half.

South Africa played pretty well as well, better than i expected. South Africa was quite dynamic in the midfield, and they were given a lot of space to run, mainly because Australia's midfield was probably a bit too attacking and wasn't marking up enough. South Africa did all the hard work in midfield, but they were really let down by poor finishing. They had several clear-cut oppurtunities that they failed to put away.

Top perfomers for South Africa were two midfielders, but i can't remember their names. I just know that one sounded like penOr and the other one sounded like that Mazda commercial (Zoom Zoom Zoom! ) Maybe it was Zuma........

Anyway what did you guys think of the game?

Discuss.....


Posted by webmeister on Mar-31-2004 04:32:

Good victory for us, given that they're ranked 30-something and we're 80-something..

Though we still have a long way before having any sort of confidence in making Germany 06...


Posted by $tip$y on Mar-31-2004 04:54:

webby....
those rankings are bullshit indications....australia is quite comfortably in the top 25 teams in the world...even top 20...


Posted by Sid on Mar-31-2004 05:10:

Yeah Farina is doing well! Kewell has been struggling all season in my opinion. He isn't half the player he was at Leeds and I could name about a thousand better midfielders in the league at the moment, which could probably explain his poor performance.

However in saying that, he is still fcuking class and if Australia is to have any hope of Germany 06, they are surely going to rest on the shoulders of Kewell and to a lesser extent Viduka, Emerton etc.


Posted by webmeister on Mar-31-2004 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by $tip$y
webby....
those rankings are bullshit indications....australia is quite comfortably in the top 25 teams in the world...even top 20...


Agree that the rankings are bullshit, but I still think we're one of the most over-rated teams in the world...


Posted by $tip$y on Mar-31-2004 07:06:

overated? tell me how so


Posted by TiksA on Mar-31-2004 07:47:

by not making it to a world cup...



Nice report mate, will have to watch the review on sunday arvo


Posted by webmeister on Mar-31-2004 08:23:

quote:
Originally posted by $tip$y
overated? tell me how so


We have a couple of players who do extremely well at high-level clubs, along with dependable players. However, I don't think they play together often enough to even warrant being called a "team."

Even the matches against Uruguay (which were admittedly a while ago), Uruguay had the style and smooth play that to me defines what a World Cup calibre team should look like. We didn't have it, and our play looked scrappy and disorganised.

I also think Brett Emerton is quite over-rated. He has good skills, but he doesn't pass the ball well enough (or often enough). Again in the Uruguay matches they kept channeling his "brilliant solo efforts" straight towards the corners, and once he got there and ran out of room he couldn't find any option other than a throw-in (or corner if we were lucky).

We seem to be on the right track, but I think we have a long way to go until we are truly recognised as a football power.


Posted by OLi_A on Mar-31-2004 09:16:

i like how nz beat australia
that was dame shameful


Posted by tubby on Mar-31-2004 10:50:

at this level a win is a win, but i don't think australia can take too much out of this one. They gave the ball away carelessly a lot, well both teams did. Also consider that the aussie team was full of european based players in the middle of the season, a good part of the sth african team still plays at home, and the PSL season only starts this weekend. That may explain the terrible finishing, which really is the only thing that saved Aus. If either of the strikers were in form SA would have won this game.
Pienaar was the midfielder of form here, he was all over the aussies. Ajax have invested a fair bit in local talent, and the results are starting to show.
SA is also in a transition phase, just appointing a new coach (Stuart Who? as all the newpapers here have had their headlines) and a pretty poor run of form recently. They are now only ranked 7th in africa. this is especially bad with the decision on the 2010 WC due in May.
most important though, the 1st string teams of both countries got together and played good opposition, which can only be a good thing.

tubby


Posted by ONION on Mar-31-2004 10:55:

omg yayness


Posted by Paulie on Mar-31-2004 13:30:

quote:
Originally posted by webmeister
We have a couple of players who do extremely well at high-level clubs, along with dependable players. However, I don't think they play together often enough to even warrant being called a "team."

Even the matches against Uruguay (which were admittedly a while ago), Uruguay had the style and smooth play that to me defines what a World Cup calibre team should look like. We didn't have it, and our play looked scrappy and disorganised.

I also think Brett Emerton is quite over-rated. He has good skills, but he doesn't pass the ball well enough (or often enough). Again in the Uruguay matches they kept channeling his "brilliant solo efforts" straight towards the corners, and once he got there and ran out of room he couldn't find any option other than a throw-in (or corner if we were lucky).

We seem to be on the right track, but I think we have a long way to go until we are truly recognised as a football power.



LoL get a fkn clue...


Posted by Romp on Mar-31-2004 13:49:

we are underrated, not overrated IMO, lets see how we do against Turkey who are ranked #9 in the world. I reckon we will beat them if we have our top squad.

And of teams currently in the top 10, we have beaten or drawn to all of the ones we have played in recent times:

Brazil
France
Mexico
England


Posted by A.J. on Mar-31-2004 13:51:

What is that supposed to mean?

I think Emerton is a bit overrated as well.....my brother absolutely loves him.


Posted by tubby on Mar-31-2004 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Romp .

And of teams currently in the top 10, we have beaten or drawn to all of the ones we have played in recent times:

Brazil
France
Mexico
England


a few good results in there, but to put them in some perspective, france couldn't beat anyone at the world cup, and brazil came back to win 6-0 in the confederation cup.
We'll never get a good measure of the true standard until oceania get there acts together and merge with another region (preferably asia) so there's regular international matches of a good standard. One-off games where there will always be problems getting all the players and the odd qualifier with cricket scores don't mean a lot.

as for emerton i'd have to agree he's overrated at this level. every time he plays for australia he seems to play like a school boy with solo runs and stupid little flick passes.


Posted by Paulie on Mar-31-2004 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Romp
we are underrated, not overrated IMO, lets see how we do against Turkey who are ranked #9 in the world. I reckon we will beat them if we have our top squad.

And of teams currently in the top 10, we have beaten or drawn to all of the ones we have played in recent times:

Brazil
France
Mexico
England



ahahahah i dont think were anywhere near that, but like webmeister said we are no way in the world overrated, and calling emerton overrated lol. I guess each to their own. Look beyond the player webbie, and look at the system farina is playing, im telling ya farina is the weakest link!


Posted by $tip$y on Mar-31-2004 23:28:

webby u aint got a clue dude...

im sure youll be one of these heads who hardly ever (or has never been) go to an nsl game who will suddenly embrace the APL and will think he knows all about the game...

emerton overrated? goodness me thats a pretty thick comment...

you are well ghey


Posted by webmeister on Mar-31-2004 23:45:

I stand by it .. we would've beaten Uruguay with a decent midfielder who can pass the ball in place of Emerton...


Posted by Romp on Apr-01-2004 00:08:

We arent a top 10 team but the fact we have done well against top teams shows we are a good side

Emerton is highly rated in the premier league, he doesnt seem to live up to that when he plays for Australia but I dont think he is a weak link at all. I reckon our central midfield has been our weakness in the past.


Posted by $tip$y on Apr-01-2004 05:04:

quote:
Originally posted by webmeister
I stand by it .. we would've beaten Uruguay with a decent midfielder who can pass the ball in place of Emerton...


yeah cos we were really exposed on the right side of midfield werent we?? ppffttt

im not even going to bother.......


Posted by tathi on Apr-01-2004 12:33:

quote:
Originally posted by ONION
omg yayness

lol? coming from someone who likes a game where you can score points by missing the goals?

transcript of AFL game

kick, catch, pass, kick, catch, pass score
kick, catch, pass, kick, catch, pass, score
kick, catch, pass, kick, catch, pass, score
kick, catch, pass, kick, catch, pass, score

omg yayness



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