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Posted by Dj Dovla on Mar-31-2004 05:25:

King Markus Schulz - Coldharbour Sessions 2004

ohh I just downloaded the album to see what its like ... AMAZING

I ordered the original from the net ... be here in couple of days

cant wait ...... I am so happpppy


Posted by Dj Dovla on Mar-31-2004 05:29:

CD 1
01 Intro
02 Christian Rusch - Numb
03 Taxi - Glistening
04 OceanLab - Satellite (Markus Schulz Coldharbour Mix)
05 Pinkbox Special - Simple
06 Mark Otten - Tranquility (Markus Schulz Coldharbour Mix)
07 San Mehat - Morning Star (San's Sho-Road Mix)
08 Mind - Afterlife
09 Airwave - Ladyblue (Markus Schulz Coldharbour Mix)
10 Miro - By Your Side
11 Markus Schulz presents Elevation - Somewhere (Clear Blue) (Markus Schulz Coldharbour Mix)

CD 2
01 Whirlpool - Under the Sun
02 Austin Leeds & Kobbe - Fusing Love (Markus Schulz & Al. Leeds Remix)
03 Thomas Penton - Dominica
04 Andrew K pres. Junk Science - Jataka
05 Ozgur Can - Sometimes
06 Andain - Beautiful Things (Markus Schulz Coldharbour Mix)
07 A. Matsumoto & Yoshi - Dreamer (Luke Chable Remix)
08 Motorcycle - As the Rush Comes (Perry O'Neil Instrumental Mix)
09 Peter Martin pres. Anthanasia - Perfect Wave
10 George Hales - Autumn (Alucard vs Markus Schulz Remix)
11 Outro


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-31-2004 06:01:

Cool...Where did you buy it from (dancegrooves?).

Oh yeah... DOWNLOADING!!! Hehe.


Posted by Wretched on Mar-31-2004 06:05:

No offense, and I think I'm in the minority here, but I can't stand a single Markus Schulz Coldharbour Remix. I've listened to a bunch and they all sound really bad. :/


Posted by auujay on Mar-31-2004 06:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Wretched
No offense, and I think I'm in the minority here, but I can't stand a single Markus Schulz Coldharbour Remix. I've listened to a bunch and they all sound really bad. :/


Yup, you're in the minority.


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Mar-31-2004 06:30:

Pretty good album, I've been jamming out to CD2 for about a week now. It doesn't beat Balance 005 Mixed by James Holden though, I still can't get over how great those 2 CDs are.


Posted by Pio on Mar-31-2004 08:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Wretched
No offense, and I think I'm in the minority here, but I can't stand a single Markus Schulz Coldharbour Remix. I've listened to a bunch and they all sound really bad. :/


You're not the only one.

I just heard the CD. I'm sorry, but i really don't like this at all. Can you say McProg? Some of the tunes are nice, but most sound to me like they're barely danceable. This contemporary melodic prog thing has a certain kitsch that you have to work around to make it work, like Holden brilliantly did in Balance 005 or what Sasha does whenever he gets his melodic side going. But Markus unfortunately is like the dance music dj version of Yanni. Too many souless generic new age melodies with a half-hearted intent to create the uplifting buildup-breakdown structure..... it simply doesn't work. just my 2 cents...


Posted by Cobalt on Mar-31-2004 08:56:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
Can you say McProg?


THAT'S IT!!!

I thought so long on what to call the genre G&D and Schulz are crafting. That's perfect!


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Mar-31-2004 08:57:

I think I know where you guys are getting at.

To me Markus is right in the middle. Not you're underground "mind fuck, programming" DJ, but not your mainstream "dance till you drop" whore either. I just think he wanted to make an album for his dedicated listeners to sit back, and enjoy. Nothing to really kick their ass, or make them dance. Just a nice collection of tracks that are HIS style.

I enjoy it a lot and hope he makes another some time soon


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-31-2004 08:58:

Holy crap YT, you should coin that term while you have the chance. It will spread like flashfires on TA, mark my words


Posted by Pio on Mar-31-2004 09:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Holy crap YT, you should coin that term while you have the chance. It will spread like flashfires on TA, mark my words


quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
THAT'S IT!!!

I thought so long on what to call the genre G&D and Schulz are crafting. That's perfect!


ROFL. I should definitely copyright it.

Yeah, I thought that up last Saturday when I was seeing G&D in New York. It had me thinking for a while about how they've helped develop this weird take in combining prog and trance. And I got really confused, because so many of these tracks did not make me move and I was feeling nothing. Then I went to see Danny Howells right away and whoa what a difference.

I'm usually no G & D or Markus hater, I actually hyped G & D ever since early 2002 and I still love some of their productions. But I don't know....McProg it is.


Posted by kron on Mar-31-2004 09:37:

i have always felt that markus's sets (live) are very danceable.. i suppose its personal preference


Posted by DaveT on Mar-31-2004 09:51:

You can listen to the album once, and realize there's not much on it that's truly meant to dance too. Hell, Markus speeds up Somewhere quite a bit when he plays it in a club just to make it danceable (I prefer it sped up, BTW...)

Although it's a mix CD, it sorta has more of a tune to a fully produced CD from a great EDM producer...because most of the recent fully produced albums I have listened too simply don't have much danceable stuff on it...a couple of things, but still not much. Usually the tracks on these albums that are played in clubs are a mixed a bit differently and sped up. Please note I am not saying all albums are like this, but I do see the majority as being like this.


Posted by MeTrYxX on Mar-31-2004 11:09:

This is a chill compilation which really expresses markuz schulz's true passion for music. Awesome track selection. DaveT i agree some of these would sound better sped up. I myself play somewhere quite a bit faster. When catagorising this album, i have my albums/sets that i go off to and my albums and sets that i can chill to and do work too. Like right now i've just completed the most uni work i've done at home this semester whilst listenin to this album hahahahaha.


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-31-2004 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
ROFL. I should definitely copyright it.

Yeah, I thought that up last Saturday when I was seeing G&D in New York. It had me thinking for a while about how they've helped develop this weird take in combining prog and trance. And I got really confused, because so many of these tracks did not make me move and I was feeling nothing. Then I went to see Danny Howells right away and whoa what a difference.

I'm usually no G & D or Markus hater, I actually hyped G & D ever since early 2002 and I still love some of their productions. But I don't know....McProg it is.


YaleTrance,

I was at that show too... I was pretty disappointed. I just stood on the 2nd floor leaning over the banister all night... didn't really catch a dance vibe. My friend and I left around 3, and apparently like 2 songs after we left they dropped a crapload of classics! I was so pissed when I found that out!

I bet Howells was amazing... too bad we didn't make it over there (that was his last marathon set, right?).

-Keith
PS. Why McProg? I get the Prog part... what is the Mc part for?


Posted by Dj Dovla on Mar-31-2004 20:44:

you guys are right , its not a "dance your ass off" cd , but certainly a great spring/summer collection , to listen to on the beach or in the car.

I'm still in love


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-31-2004 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Dovla
you guys are right , its not a "dance your ass off" cd , but certainly a great spring/summer collection , to listen to on the beach or in the car.

I'm still in love


Where did you buy it from?


Posted by pooley on Mar-31-2004 21:07:

It's awsome. As mentioned before, not to dance on but just to relax with.
Start the evening or end it with this cd cause imo it's made perfectly for that !

Or at a beach, even better, not that loud basses that can annoy people that fast


Posted by Jeskot7 on Mar-31-2004 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
You're not the only one.

I just heard the CD. I'm sorry, but i really don't like this at all. Can you say McProg? Some of the tunes are nice, but most sound to me like they're barely danceable. This contemporary melodic prog thing has a certain kitsch that you have to work around to make it work, like Holden brilliantly did in Balance 005 or what Sasha does whenever he gets his melodic side going. But Markus unfortunately is like the dance music dj version of Yanni. Too many souless generic new age melodies with a half-hearted intent to create the uplifting buildup-breakdown structure..... it simply doesn't work. just my 2 cents...


It's not all about dancing like a maniac. If it's too epic everyone complains that it overused and not really "trance", if it's not enough according to the masses then it is not danceable. In my opinion, the sound that Gabriel and Dresden/Markus Schulz are famous for are the most intelligent of the whole trance/progressive scene. The tunes are so moving it's not necessarily for rocking out but more for moving your shoulders and appreciating the subtleties. A year ago I would have never found myself loving the slower slide of EDM but this stuff is quite sensual and enchanting.(Elevation - Clear Blue OMIGOD!!!!)


Posted by TOR on Mar-31-2004 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
it simply doesn't work.


hmm.. i wonder why Markus is popular then.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-31-2004 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
hmm.. i wonder why Markus is popular then.


Cos a lot of his fans sit at home and listen to all his sets with no chance of seeing him live.


Posted by arturob on Mar-31-2004 22:26:

hello all,

Coldharbour Sessions CD will be on the stores in USA next week!

xxx arturo


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Apr-01-2004 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Cos a lot of his fans sit at home and listen to all his sets with no chance of seeing him live.

is there a problem with that? Isn't that what music is for...to listen to?

Markus Schulz is being a pioneer IMO. I think his wife made this quote...

quote:
Markus Schulz is very unique.
He kinda introduces alot of tranceheads to the darker trance/ progressive side, and at the same time he reminds the prog heads why they used to love trance.


If you want those sick underground tunes, then go listen to Danny Howells. If you want your epic trancers, then go listen to Armin Van Buuren. Feel like something inbetween? Markus Schulz...

Just depends on your mood I guess?


Posted by Dj Dovla on Apr-01-2004 03:44:

quote:
If you want those sick underground tunes, then go listen to Danny Howells. If you want your epic trancers, then go listen to Armin Van Buuren. Feel like something inbetween? Markus Schulz...

Just depends on your mood I guess?


really nicely said .... I agree 100%.


Posted by Pio on Apr-01-2004 03:59:

quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
YaleTrance,

I was at that show too... I was pretty disappointed. I just stood on the 2nd floor leaning over the banister all night... didn't really catch a dance vibe. My friend and I left around 3, and apparently like 2 songs after we left they dropped a crapload of classics! I was so pissed when I found that out!

I bet Howells was amazing... too bad we didn't make it over there (that was his last marathon set, right?).

-Keith
PS. Why McProg? I get the Prog part... what is the Mc part for?


1. They did play more anthems after 3am, i left a bit after 4am. Didn't get really excited about anything though, but it was fun.

2. Howells was great, it was his last marathon at Arc indeed.

3. I called it McProg because I think this style is starting to sound like the fast food of progressive, trying badly to have a wider appeal without much depth put into it. Pre-packaged elevator music with beats. It's prog, but there's nothing progressive about it (this goes for the general vibe, I do enjoy some tracks). Too many simple one-note piano melodies with a few pretentious layers that end up sounding superficial because it tries to hard to compromise between melody and progressive.




quote:
Originally posted by Jeskot7
It's not all about dancing like a maniac. If it's too epic everyone complains that it overused and not really "trance", if it's not enough according to the masses then it is not danceable. In my opinion, the sound that Gabriel and Dresden/Markus Schulz are famous for are the most intelligent of the whole trance/progressive scene. The tunes are so moving it's not necessarily for rocking out but more for moving your shoulders and appreciating the subtleties. A year ago I would have never found myself loving the slower slide of EDM but this stuff is quite sensual and enchanting.(Elevation - Clear Blue OMIGOD!!!!)


My problem with it is not that it's not danceable or that it's "chill". I love ambient, downtempo, slow deep house, idm, chillout a la Ulrich Schnauss and other non-dancefloor stuff. Most of the stuff I listen to is classical music, so for me it's not an issue of fuck dance let's art vs. fuck art let's dance. My criticism is that this style is generally lacking in depth and musical quality because it tries too hard to compromise between melody and prog, and frankly it fails to impress me. Just sounds pretentious and superficial.

quote:
the sound that Gabriel and Dresden/Markus Schulz are famous for are the most intelligent of the whole trance/progressive scene.


I know that opinions are subjective, but that's a gross overstatement. Trance and progressive are in a sad state when people think that a track like Satellite is part of the most intelligent style there is. This style is not subtle or complicated at all. Maybe it's making you think it is, but it's really just fooling you, and that's the reason that it doesn't impress me. This is music that caters to MP3 bedroom trancers, with a few soothing easy listening sounds that entrances and tricks the listener into overestimating it.

I like Clear Blue. I loved hearing PvD, Tiesto and Sasha spin it live. It had a great effect on their respective sets, because they know how to use that kinda contrasting sound and create the right vibe with it. But the vocals in this compilation totally ruin the track, and it makes no sense to place it at the end like that. This compilation is 50 points below the musical IQ scale of classics such as Balance 005, GU013 or ISOS 2. Sorry, but this is just my opinion.


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