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Posted by .montecarlo. on Mar-31-2004 22:28:

Exclamation File Sharing Legal In Canada

http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/MSN/200...oad_court040331

quote:


Online music swapping legal: court
Last Updated Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:24:32 EST
TORONTO - Individuals who share personal copies of music files on the internet are safe after a Federal Court rejected a motion on Wednesday that would have allowed the music industry to sue them.

Justice Konrad von Finckenstein said the Canadian Recording Industry Association hadn't shown copyright infringement by 29 people who had allowed their music files to be uploaded.

Making files available in online, shared directories is within the bounds of Canadian copyright law, von Finckenstein ruled.

"No evidence was presented that the alleged infringers either distributed or authorized the reproduction of sound recordings," von Finckenstein wrote in his 28-page ruling. "They merely placed personal copies into their shared directories which were accessible by other computer users via a P2P service."


The music industry wants to shut down internet file sharing of music, blaming it for plummeting sales of compact discs.

Last year, the recording industry in the United States began going after people who share music online.

The Recording Industry Association of America has sued about 400 individuals in the U.S. for allowing others access to song files. Several people have settled out of court for about $3,000 US each.

On Tuesday, the recording industry sent warning letters or filed charges against 247 people in Denmark, Germany, Italy and Canada.



Written by CBC News Online staff




Posted by torontotrance on Mar-31-2004 23:07:

I bet they appeal it to the Supreme Court

bunch of bastards got a kick in the ass...hehehe


Posted by Psionic on Mar-31-2004 23:12:

I'm moving!


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-31-2004 23:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Galapidate
I'm moving!
ill second that


Posted by Kamikaze Badger on Mar-31-2004 23:59:

And I'll third that.





Another reason to run off to Canada !


Posted by Adambomb on Apr-01-2004 00:28:

Smoking ..umm..something

The CRIA will be appealing, but this was a Federal Court of Canada decision by one of the most respected technology judges in the country, so I think it'll stand up.


Posted by Lumps on Apr-01-2004 00:28:

You want to move so you can share files? You guys should move for the good dope.


Posted by nchs09 on Apr-01-2004 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lumps
You want to move so you can share files? You guys should move for the good dope.
i never said my reasons...


Posted by Kamikaze Badger on Apr-01-2004 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Lumps
You want to move so you can share files? You guys should move for the good dope.





Not just the files .


Posted by smokeape on Apr-01-2004 00:32:

Well, the Canucks ain't all bad after all. Would move up there, but really prefer the weather down here in Dixie and plenty smoke right here. I'll share files with them any day of the week though. Blast the RIAA!!!


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by whiskers on Apr-01-2004 00:55:

canada is like a clone of the US only with benefits and without all the sodomy


-drinking, clubbing, stripclubs @ 18
-pot
-filesharing
-european atmosphere


what else am i missing?


Posted by BTG on Apr-01-2004 01:05:

as soon as canada has weed cafes, we'll be 100x better than the netherlands, especially if we get that new province by the bahamas.


Posted by nchs09 on Apr-01-2004 01:07:

is weed that common in canada... is it legal? i dont want to start looking on the net to find my answer


Posted by jinxed84 on Apr-01-2004 01:09:

19/m

i clean up after myself

who wants to adopt me.


Posted by Cal on Apr-01-2004 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by jinxed84
19/m

i clean up after myself

who wants to adopt me.


Haha lol funny

But whats the news on the weed bill Chretien wanted to push thrugh while he was still in power? Is the liberal party still looking at it or what?


Posted by SkyHigh on Apr-01-2004 01:42:

I think u just get a fine for possesion now ,instead of going to court and having a record.

PS.If I could i would move from Toronto to Vancouver.Way better weed in Vanc.


Posted by .montecarlo. on Apr-01-2004 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
as soon as canada has weed cafes, we'll be 100x better than the netherlands, especially if we get that new province by the bahamas.


we have a few in vancouver...


Posted by Adambomb on Apr-01-2004 02:53:

The latest on weed decriminalization...

From the Toronto Star (the latest on the legislation is in the middle of the article...)
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=968705899037

New pot law could boost policing costs: RCMP


OTTAWA (CP) � The federal plan to decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana could increase policing costs, not reduce them as many predict, according to internal RCMP notes.

The revelation is among several uncertainties and reservations regarding the proposed pot bill spelled out in newly disclosed briefing materials prepared by the national police force.

The Mounties take issue with the oft-repeated assertion that the existing pot law is enforced unevenly across Canada, and express concern about some elements of the new legislative package.

Several pages of RCMP notes, compiled from May through December of last year, were obtained by The Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act.

The latest statistics show police laid a record number of drug-related charges in 2002, with 75 per cent of the 93,000 incidents involving pot.

Under the bill currently before Parliament, possessing 15 grams or less of marijuana � about 15 to 20 joints � would no longer be a criminal matter but a ticketing offence punishable by a fine of $150 for an adult or $100 for a youth.

Some advocates argue the legislative proposals will free up valuable police time for more serious matters, but the Mounties remain to be convinced.

"Police do not see these reforms as resulting in cost savings to them," say the RCMP notes.

"Which way the volume of marijuana offences will go is difficult to say. It may result in cost savings or it may result in cost increases."

The Mounties believe a key factor would be how many of the tickets issued under the new proposals end up being challenged.

"If a large percentage of the tickets issued were contested in court and police officers were called to testify, our costs might actually increase."

A number of activists pushing for legalization � not just decriminalization � of marijuana have promised to protest the federal changes by routinely challenging fines.

Eugene Oscapella of the Canadian Foundation for Drug Policy, which favours legalization, said it is "quite likely" costs to police will rise under the changes. "Some people in the reform movement are arguing that they should just clog up the courts, and that's one tactic."

The federal government says that in large urban centres police are much less likely to lay a charge for possession of small amounts of cannabis than in other parts of the country.

Liberal MP Wayne Easter, a former solicitor general, echoed the argument recently. "In some areas you get a slap on the wrist, in other areas you get a criminal record."

The Mounties deny the suggestion, saying the force strives to enforce the law "in a consistent manner, keeping in mind the policing priorities of the regions it serves."

There is no evidence "this would be any different if the new reform is adopted in Canada," the notes say.

In consultations with federal officials, the Mounties supported the idea of ticketing provisions for marijuana possession, the notes add, but only if police officers would be able to retain the current option of issuing a summons to appear in criminal court for even very small quantities.

This would be reserved for cases in which "aggravating factors" made the option of a criminal charge more appropriate. However, the government did not follow the RCMP's advice.

Currently, growing marijuana is a single offence, punishable by up to seven years in prison. The bill proposes four separate offences, with punishments ranging from a fine of $5,000 for being caught with one to three plants to 14 years behind bars for cultivating 50 or more.

When advised in advance of the government's options, "the RCMP said it preferred to not see potential penalties lowered for any cultivation offences."


Posted by nchs09 on Apr-01-2004 02:55:

god damn it!! is pot legal is canada?!?!!?!?! someone tell me


Posted by Dr. Cfire on Apr-01-2004 07:36:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
god damn it!! is pot legal is canada?!?!!?!?! someone tell me


No its not, yet. There is alot of talk about decrimilalizing pot. This would mean that if you are caught with pot on yourself you will be fined. You will not serve a jail term or have a criminal record for having pot. But dealing will carry much larger penalties.

Legal no, non criminal maybee soon.

edit:
forgive my spelling its late.



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