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Gravity...what?

Think of a swimming pool that is the size of the universe. Whether there are boundries, i don't know, but lets just say there is a maximum. Now throw a tennis ball into the water. what do u notice? Well, the tennis ball is floating about halfways into the water. Now get a big beach ball and do the same. Now u see that the beachball is about a quarter of the way (or less) into the water.
Pressure. Once again think of a swimming pool. If u put the a ball into the water, the water will rise. But since there are boundries that will not allow water to seep out, pressure builds up. Pressure builds up, and the ball will feel the stress. Pushing on all sides of the ball to the very center.
If there is a maximum to the size of the universe, and we know that matter can not be created or destroyed (only transformed), pressure is pushing us down on earth, or any planet. The less matter that a planet (or moon or whatever) takes up, the less pressure that pulls toward its core. Small planets have weaker pressure than a huge planet which will have a strong force of gravity. So we shouldn't look into the center of the earth to see if there is energy PULLING us to the floor, but to the pressure in space PUSHING us down.
eh?

and what exactly is pushing us down in a uniform matter? and why to earth in particular?

djslain was kicked in the head too many times...

lol

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Originally posted by djSlain Think of a swimming pool that is the size of the universe. Whether there are boundries, i don't know, but lets just say there is a maximum. Now throw a tennis ball into the water. what do u notice? Well, the tennis ball is floating about halfways into the water. Now get a big beach ball and do the same. Now u see that the beachball is about a quarter of the way (or less) into the water. Pressure. Once again think of a swimming pool. If u put the a ball into the water, the water will rise. But since there are boundries that will not allow water to seep out, pressure builds up. Pressure builds up, and the ball will feel the stress. Pushing on all sides of the ball to the very center. If there is a maximum to the size of the universe, and we know that matter can not be created or destroyed (only transformed), pressure is pushing us down on earth, or any planet. The less matter that a planet (or moon or whatever) takes up, the less pressure that pulls toward its core. Small planets have weaker pressure than a huge planet which will have a strong force of gravity. So we shouldn't look into the center of the earth to see if there is energy PULLING us to the floor, but to the pressure in space PUSHING us down. eh?

actually, i do believe in gravity
coming to conclusions based on a flawed analogy can get you into trouble
and thats not even to mention the fact that it assumes the universe is finite

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Originally posted by mezzir actually, i do believe in gravity coming to conclusions based on a flawed analogy can get you into trouble and thats not even to mention the fact that it assumes the universe is finite

dude, who's coaching world juniors this year?


i bet it's tiina, no wonder will and darden are on it, with bob wang as an alternate, even though they're all good.

i hate threads that make u think... at least in the chill out room

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Originally posted by djSlain Think of a swimming pool that is the size of the universe. Whether there are boundries, i don't know, but lets just say there is a maximum. Now throw a tennis ball into the water. what do u notice? Well, the tennis ball is floating about halfways into the water. Now get a big beach ball and do the same. Now u see that the beachball is about a quarter of the way (or less) into the water. So we shouldn't look into the center of the earth to see if there is energy PULLING us to the floor, but to the pressure in space PUSHING us down. eh?

And a ten pound rock sinks to the bottom of the pool. The matter in toto remains the same. Nothing you do here on earth impacts the rest of the universe. Space consists of matter and vacuum in the void. Unless a celestial object interferes with us outside the norm, we are in equilabrium with the rest of the universe and there are no outer forces pushing us down or interfering with us at the moment.

Pass the doobey over here...


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Originally posted by mezzir actually, i do believe in gravity coming to conclusions based on a flawed analogy can get you into trouble and thats not even to mention the fact that it assumes the universe is finite

Evidence so far indicates that it is finite.

the pressure of the universe is pushing us down. We have our general weight of 150 pounds here on earth. So we have X amount of pressure pushing us to the floor. Once we go to a planet that is double in size, there will be double amount of pressure pushing us down, hence, we would weigh more on jupiter than on any smaller chunk of matter, like moons or the smaller planets in our solar system

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Originally posted by occrider Evidence so far indicates that it is finite.

no there is insuficiet evidence either way actualy.

couldn't the universe be a sphere? U can go west on a planet and never reach an end, just keep circling the earth. and if the universe is like a sphere, discarding "folding" the universe, just going from Point A to Point B by going through the sphere?

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Originally posted by djSlain couldn't the universe be a sphere? U can go west on a planet and never reach an end, just keep circling the earth. and if the universe is like a sphere, discarding "folding" the universe, just going from Point A to Point B by going through the sphere?

no the universe will be a flat disc. the full reason for this is complicated. its the same as why galixies are all flat discs.

actually, latest research shows that the universe does not exist and that earth is flat and is held by 3 elephants standing on a turtle

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Originally posted by djSlain the pressure of the universe is pushing us down. We have our general weight of 150 pounds here on earth. So we have X amount of pressure pushing us to the floor. Once we go to a planet that is double in size, there will be double amount of pressure pushing us down, hence, we would weigh more on jupiter than on any smaller chunk of matter, like moons or the smaller planets in our solar system

why don't people in china get pushed off the earth?

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Originally posted by whiskers actually, latest research shows that the universe does not exist and that earth is flat and is held by 3 elephants standing on a turtle

wow! my science book is wayyyyy off... DAMN SCHOOL!

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Originally posted by Boomer187 why don't people in china get pushed off the earth?

pressure would be on all sides of the planet. it would all push toward the center of the earth

and maybe that's what keeps the core active

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Originally posted by djSlain pressure would be on all sides of the planet. it would all push toward the center of the earth and maybe that's what keeps the core active

so what happens at that point in space where the pressure reverses.


like on the side of the moon that faces us. somewhere between here and there this pressure reverses right. and also, what keeps the moon going around the earth?

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Originally posted by djSlain pressure would be on all sides of the planet. it would all push toward the center of the earth and maybe that's what keeps the core active

heat from our solar system getting created is why the center of the earth is hot. over time it has been cooling and will eventualy become cold like mars. so what keeps the center of the earth "active" is infact heat.

i have no idea about pressures reversing. polarity?

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Originally posted by djSlain i have no idea about pressures reversing. polarity?

or large bodies of mass create a pulling force towards its center. this woudl allow for this reversing.

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Originally posted by dukes no there is insuficiet evidence either way actualy.

Well I haven't been keeping up with the matter as I well should, but the last few books and articles I have read have all led me to believe that space is finite.

http://www.space.com/scienceastrono...cer_031008.html


http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?ar...4A8809EC588EEDF

Personally, I'm inclined to agree.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 so what happens at that point in space where the pressure reverses. like on the side of the moon that faces us. somewhere between here and there this pressure reverses right. and also, what keeps the moon going around the earth?

Excellent rebuttal. More should take notice.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 and also, what keeps the moon going around the earth?

The moon produces a tidal force on the earth, which causes parts of the ocean to bulge. This bulge then pulls the moon forward, pulling it ahead as the earth's gravity pulls the moon toward the earth keeping it from floating away into space.

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