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A question about getting a tune pressed
Iv been working on an elecro/techno/trancey kind of remix of radiohead - street spirit and its going quite well and i think im probly gonna get it pressed. As im wanting to hopefully put out tunes in the future id really like to have it out on my own label, properly packaged with artwork etc. Problem is that its obsiously got a radiohead sample in and i dont wana get fucked over by copyrights. Considering i wouldnt be pressing that many of them do you reckon i could get away with it or should i just put it on an anonymous white label? Hmmmmm.
Best thing is to ask for permission of Radiohead, you can try to phone his label or something. I think that's the best thing to do.
To be honest you may be better off getting them pressed as anonymous white labels. I'm sure I
read an articel once where Thom Yorke from radiohead said he really dislikes dance music,
hence the 'Wonky' version of street spirit never madeit to a major label as they wouldn't clear the sample.
Having it pressed without permission would be incredibly unethical.
That song is property of Radiohead. Not you. If you sample from it, you need their permission before you can use it. It's wrong to make money off someone else's work. If you can't get permission, then you're just going to have to file the track away as a great experiment, and move on.
I majorly disagree with Skytribe on this one. Get it pressed - most pressers wont care unless they are large corporations. Stick it on CDR or something if they wont! Tiesto remixed a radiohead song pretty recently and they wont clear it - so I dont think you stand a chance to be honest, not legally anyway.
Dance music is all about sampling, and unless you have literally stolen the entire tune without much effort to 'make it your own' then I say at least get a test pressing and see which DJs like it!
Cheers mossy, reckon i will get it pressed on white label. Iv totally changed it and added 20 times more stuff than they actually ever put into the original so fuck it. Besides its a good tune n i aint doing it for the money, just want other people to play productions which iv done, is that so wrong?
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| Originally posted by Tom_cowan Cheers mossy, reckon i will get it pressed on white label. Iv Besides its a good tune n i aint doing it for the money, just want other people to play productions which iv done, is that so wrong? |
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| Originally posted by hey cheggy Not at all. In fact, if you don't want to make any money from it, domn't forget to post some samples for us greedy leaches to listen to. |
I will do when its finished, hope you all like it, i know some of you wont but i hope it at least sounds profesional. Ill keep you informed anyway.
Its the 2grand rule brother...look it up. They cant do shit to you if you dont make over 2 thousand bucks from the record. And if they do something to you. Then just pay the fine with the money you made. Then if they make a big deal out of it...well then thats free promotion for you. Man people do shit like that all of the time.
Alot of white lables are made just for that reason. Anyway. Go for it. Ya only Live Once! Take Chances! Its the only way to know for sure.
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| Originally posted by Dirty Ice Its the 2grand rule brother...look it up. They cant do shit to you if you dont make over 2 thousand bucks from the record. And if they do something to you. Then just pay the fine with the money you made. Then if they make a big deal out of it...well then thats free promotion for you. Man people do shit like that all of the time. Alot of white lables are made just for that reason. Anyway. Go for it. Ya only Live Once! Take Chances! Its the only way to know for sure. |
go for the whites, i would even write my email addy on the vinyl
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| Originally posted by skytribe There's no such thing. Stealing someone else's music and using it for your own benefit is copyright infringement, pure and simple. (Yes, obviously, we're leaving out fair-use laws here, but sampling and remixing is not considered 'fair use'). How would you feel if someone took your music, sampled it, and then started making money off it without your permission? Hmm? It's illegal, and unethical. Whether or not the dance music industry has traditionally used uncleared samples doesn't make it right. |
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| Originally posted by Psy-T i would be very happy to see hoxton whores for example using parts of a track i made and releasing it on white, even more-so if it would have been called something like 'hoxton whores vs psy-t - dont ask' or whatever |
i would be complimented if someone "stole" my work and made success out of it. But i can see where both sides of the arguments points lay. and im neutral. its certainly not unethical tho. just somewhat cheeky. if i was u i wouldnt bother gettin it pressed. If you want people to hear it then send some cdrs out to some djs, judge jules on radio 1 in uk wil play it if its good. that way your not making any money, not breaking any laws and yet still having ur music played and appriciated. It takes alot of skill to remix a rock song well
get 200 pressed
Get them in a few stores- maybe send them to a few big jocks or a promo/plugging company
Set up a hotsnail account- [email protected] or whatever, plain white with just the email address.
You will make a few � probably if they sell, and might get some airplay or a play in a big name djs set-
How do ou think things like LMC/u2 got released- they originated as white label bootlegs, interest and demand made the publishers+groups take some interest and do an official release- in the case of the baove example- they re did the vocal when clearence was refused- so no its not unethical. So it might end up getting you signed- its happened before.
Get on it!
Cheers for the advice, ill sort it out but was thinking about playing it to the distrubutors on cdr before getting it pressed. Is it likely they'l take some of my hands does anybody know? N how much do you rekon ill be able to get for each record, considering it'l be single sided n white label?
i have to say.. i think this is a bad idea. u havnt taken into account things like mastering for one thing. if its not perfect then ull have all sorts of problems like the needle not sitting in the grove and the frequencies being all wrong in a club. i would look into it properly. dont waste money doing sumin like this. y not release a tune of ur own? i think its dodgey
Thats the best idea,i agree,do somethign fo your own and dont have this hassle,keep that remix for your own personal use
put your own track on the b side or as a second track on the a side- nothing to lose by doing it, and everything to gain.
Pro mastering isnt expensive for what you get (and you get a funky glass master in a box to keep )- porkys on shaftesbury avenue is the best in my personal opinion- they do a lot of pro stuff for big acts.
As for pressing, you are looking for 200 copies at a few hundred quid.
Most white bootlegs sell for about �7 upwards, but thats retail- the shops will buy them in for about �4 ish each- try getting hard to find to stock it or some other shops with a high profile.
Its a great feeling having your first pressing (001) in your hands
I'd have to agree with Skytribe...
Its one thing to borrow a style or "sound" from a band to implement in your tune. Its another thing to sample directly from the song. I dont know what the rule is for how long a sample can be before its stealing... ever hear a song that you thought was something else at first and then realized the song was only borrowing the "sound"? Trying to incorporate a specific guitar riff or a vocal line without permission is wrong. Identifying and using the same sounding instrumentation for your own slightly different tune is quite alright...afterall, imitation is the best form of flattery!
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