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Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-06-2004 18:13:

Lets talk facts about who is evil

Sorry all you liberal media brainwashed europeans, but your logic is all messed up, how can a MILITARY F16 dropping bombs trying to defend a people by striking enemy leadership be equated to a bunch of thugs that send childern and retards in to poor Jewish neighborhoods and busses to blow up innocent civilians?

I don't see Jewish people dragging burned Palestinian bodies through the streets and hanging them from bridges. I don't see chrisitans doing that either.

How many Americans have flown airplanes into your Islamic skyscrapers?

I hope that we get America out of Iraq, we need to first get revenge against those that killed Americans, then leave and let the Iraqis kill themselves just like they always have.


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-06-2004 18:18:


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-06-2004 18:20:


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-06-2004 18:32:

Re: Lets talk facts about who is evil

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Sorry all you liberal media brainwashed europeans


hahahaahaha, wounder who are brainwashed.

quote:
but your logic is all messed up, how can a MILITARY F16 dropping bombs trying to defend a people by striking enemy leadership be equated to a bunch of thugs that send childern and retards in to poor Jewish neighborhoods and busses to blow up innocent civilians?


soooo, a if a F16 dropped a bomb over the white house that would be okay just because the US president started a war that killed many inocent children...? (ohh of course i wouldn't feel sad, but it is just wrong...)

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I don't see Jewish people dragging burned Palestinian bodies through the streets and hanging them from bridges. I don't see chrisitans doing that either.


and i don't see palestinians taking israelis land and building houses on them and then taking away the israelis liberties etc.

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How many Americans have flown airplanes into your Islamic skyscrapers?


eh none as far as i know, but on the other hand have you bombed x number of islamic countries.

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I hope that we get America out of Iraq, we need to first get revenge against those that killed Americans, then leave and let the Iraqis kill themselves just like they always have.


bah, can you be more stupid? first of all what good does revange do? ever though of that perhaps 11 sept was a revange in the first place? and you did a revenge on the revenge, what do you think will stop them from doing a revenge on the revenge of the revenge (if you get me? )


Posted by Bronze on Apr-06-2004 18:33:

I completely agree with you FuzzyGreen.



BETTER SOLUTION = BOMB OVER ALL THESE F***ing COUNTRY

LAxe du Mal ... Il faut en terminer avec les terroristes du monde entier.


Posted by Palestinian on Apr-06-2004 19:25:

Shame / Disagreement Occupation

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Sorry all you liberal media brainwashed europeans, but your logic is all messed up, how can a MILITARY F16 dropping bombs trying to defend a people by striking enemy leadership be equated to a bunch of thugs that send childern and retards in to poor Jewish neighborhoods and busses to blow up innocent civilians?

I don't see Jewish people dragging burned Palestinian bodies through the streets and hanging them from bridges. I don't see chrisitans doing that either.

How many Americans have flown airplanes into your Islamic skyscrapers?

I hope that we get America out of Iraq, we need to first get revenge against those that killed Americans, then leave and let the Iraqis kill themselves just like they always have.


Let's not take things out of context. Palestinians are fighting to be free from occupation. Israel is the occupier, Palestinians are the occupied. Occupied also means that their fundamental human rights are violated on a daily basis for 37 years now. Once you accept this fact, then you can begin to talk about other issues.

A military F16 dropping a bomb on a densely populated area to kill one man is disgusting. I find it absolutely ridiculous to defend such an action. I would also point out that these extrajudical assissinations are not as common as when Israeli soldiers randomly shoot at civilians in refugee camps as a provocation and warning.

If a Hamas leader was walking within a crowded Tel Aviv street, would it be moral to bomb the street full of Israelis and one Hamas leader? How dispicable.


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-06-2004 19:32:

It's all a rich tapestry. Personally, I think the best solution is the hippie war I was talking about earlier with lime green peace tanks and gift-wrapped bombs. And the military rifles and molotovs should both be equipped with sparkling neon violet streamers.


Posted by Shakka on Apr-06-2004 19:51:

Re: Occupation

quote:
Originally posted by Palestinian
Let's not take things out of context. Palestinians are fighting to be free from occupation. Israel is the occupier, Palestinians are the occupied. Occupied also means that their fundamental human rights are violated on a daily basis for 37 years now. Once you accept this fact, then you can begin to talk about other issues.


Allow me to play ignorant and pose 2 questions:

1) What specific fundamental human rights are being violated on a daily basis? Are the Israeli's not also entitled to the exact same fundamental human rights as the Palestinians or do you view them as sub-human?

2) What was specifically NOT being done in violation longer than 37 years ago as there were plenty of Jews present before that.


I just know I'm gonna regret posting in this thread.


Posted by malek on Apr-06-2004 19:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Bronze
I completely agree with you FuzzyGreen.



BETTER SOLUTION = BOMB OVER ALL THESE F***ing COUNTRY

LAxe du Mal ... Il faut en terminer avec les terroristes du monde entier.


woah... attends que je te vois la prochaine fois!


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-06-2004 19:52:

Re: Occupation

quote:
Originally posted by Palestinian
Let's not take things out of context. Palestinians are fighting to be free from occupation. Israel is the occupier, Palestinians are the occupied. Occupied also means that their fundamental human rights are violated on a daily basis for 37 years now. Once you accept this fact, then you can begin to talk about other issues.


Sorry, that doesn't excuse the fact that they are terrorists and kill innocent people. Also, it's debatable that they are occupied and even if their land is occupied why aren't they trying to overcome this problem with peacefull solutions that value human life?

quote:

If a Hamas leader was walking within a crowded Tel Aviv street, would it be moral to bomb the street full of Israelis and one Hamas leader? How dispicable.


No, because the Isrealis are innocent and do not support him, but if he was surrounded by a bunch of supporters and other people of his influence then Yes. Also, an argument can be made that it would be justified if and only if killing that leader would save many more people in the long run.

As for the weak arguament of bombing the white house in order to kill the president, well, the president isn't sending suicide bombers into a country to kill innocent people.


Posted by Cyrus King on Apr-06-2004 20:20:

Re: Lets talk facts about who is evil

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Sorry all you liberal media brainwashed europeans, but your logic is all messed up, how can a MILITARY F16 dropping bombs trying to defend a people by striking enemy leadership be equated to a bunch of thugs that send childern and retards in to poor Jewish neighborhoods and busses to blow up innocent civilians?

I don't see Jewish people dragging burned Palestinian bodies through the streets and hanging them from bridges. I don't see chrisitans doing that either.

How many Americans have flown airplanes into your Islamic skyscrapers?

I hope that we get America out of Iraq, we need to first get revenge against those that killed Americans, then leave and let the Iraqis kill themselves just like they always have.


HAHAHHHAHA
that was really funny

Were you being sarcastic?

If you werent.... then illmakeit clear to you.

THEY ARE GETTING THEIR REVENGE BY FIGHTING THE OCCUPATION.

I hope they keep fighting this disgusting corporate fueled crusade until each and every one of those soldiers are gone from the middle east.


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-06-2004 20:24:

Re: Re: Occupation

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
As for the weak arguament of bombing the white house in order to kill the president, well, the president isn't sending suicide bombers into a country to kill innocent people.


no but he is sending soldiers there to get oil. that is actually worse.


Posted by Massive84 on Apr-06-2004 20:25:

Re: Re: Occupation

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Sorry, that doesn't excuse the fact that they are terrorists and kill innocent people. Also, it's debatable that they are occupied and even if their land is occupied why aren't they trying to overcome this problem with peacefull solutions that value human life?



No, because the Isrealis are innocent and do not support him, but if he was surrounded by a bunch of supporters and other people of his influence then Yes. Also, an argument can be made that it would be justified if and only if killing that leader would save many more people in the long run.

As for the weak arguament of bombing the white house in order to kill the president, well, the president isn't sending suicide bombers into a country to kill innocent people.


wow your dumb..

peacefull solution? haha..so its ok if i rob your house, rape your mom etc...and when you want it to get over, you approach me peacefully..

haha

boy great laugh..

your stupid , if you dont like seeing usa soldiers dieng, why you supported the war in the first place?(i assume you did since you bullshitting)


Posted by Cyrus King on Apr-06-2004 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Bronze
I completely agree with you FuzzyGreen.



BETTER SOLUTION = BOMB OVER ALL THESE F***ing COUNTRY

LAxe du Mal ... Il faut en terminer avec les terroristes du monde entier.

Stupid noobs always tend to agree with stupid americans


Posted by George Smiley on Apr-06-2004 20:33:

quote:
Sorry, that doesn't excuse the fact that they are terrorists and kill innocent people. Also, it's debatable that they are occupied and even if their land is occupied why aren't they trying to overcome this problem with peacefull solutions that value human life?

Where oh where does humanity get these idiots from?! Millenia of evolution and look what it produced...FuzzyGreen!

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No, because the Isrealis are innocent and do not support him

Fair enough, so you think that it is ok for Hamas to bomb a crowded street in Tel Aviv if Ariel Sharon is talking to a bunch of Israelis or Americans as they do support Sharon, and Sharon is just as guilty as anyone in Hamas is of terrorism (ha ha Digi)

quote:
As for the weak arguament of bombing the white house in order to kill the president, well, the president isn't sending suicide bombers into a country to kill innocent people

No he prefers cluster bombs and daisy cutters and in the past, Presidents have prefered nuclear bombs...far more effective in the number of innocents they can murder...


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-06-2004 20:44:

The terrorists actions against Americans is only fueling more hatered from me and other American's like me.


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-06-2004 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
The terrorists actions against Americans is only fueling more hatered from me and other American's like me. Anti American hatred from Europe is only fueling anti european hatred more from Americans. Bad things will happen when Americans stop acting like Nancy boys and start kicking your ass.


i can't believe how narrow minded some people can be.... i really feel sorry for you...


Posted by occrider on Apr-06-2004 20:54:

Is it just me or has post quality been dipping as of late? I swear, the back and forth rhetoric everywhere is exhausting ... makes me want to play xbox. There should be rules or something whereby you have to at least post a source or analyze something, anything ... I don't care, give me good arguments for why your shoes have comfort and style. Or maybe even incorporate some humor in the rhetoric so there's at least some entertainment value. It's starting to feel like one giant chatroom.


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-06-2004 20:58:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Is it just me or has post quality been dipping as of late? I swear, the back and forth rhetoric everywhere is exhausting ... makes me want to play xbox. There should be rules or something whereby you have to at least post a source or analyze something, anything ... I don't care, give me good arguments for why your shoes have comfort and style. Or maybe even incorporate some humor in the rhetoric so there's at least some entertainment value. It's starting to feel like one giant chatroom.


i agree, i think we need a moderator.


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-06-2004 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Fuck you, if your sorry ass was over here I would bash your face in and drag your body through the street with your balls hanging for all the muslims to get excited about. Fucking euro-shit.


he he....


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-06-2004 21:15:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
Sorry, you're right, I never really realized that there is more to the story then what I've been reading in my local news. I'll try to be a little more open minded in the future and understand your American Point of view


Thanks St_Andrew! and sorry for the insults, it's nice to see someone that trys to understand where my point of view comes from and how it isn't ignornant, but well University educated.


Posted by Cal on Apr-06-2004 21:19:

Ahahaha he edited his posts! Nice "well University educated point of view," Jethro.


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-06-2004 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Thanks St_Andrew! and sorry for the insults, it's nice to see someone that trys to understand where my point of view comes from and how it isn't ignornant, but well University educated.


bah you are even stupider than i frist thought.

seriously how many different sources of news have you ever read? (i read booth local, bbc, guardian, cnn on regular basis, i bet my right foot that that is more diversity than you ever even thought of...)


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-06-2004 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
bah you are even stupider than i frist thought.

seriously how many different sources of news have you ever read? (i read booth local, bbc, guardian, cnn on regular basis, i bet my right foot that that is more diversity than you ever even thought of...)


hahaha, dude, you just admited to being a fucking idiot, everyone knows that, every single news source you just quoted is highly liberal. Not sure about your local news though, but judging from how stupid you and your countrymen are I bet that they are liberal also.

CNN, BBC, Guardian, and NPR are all regarded as extremely libral biased news here. I can't even argue with someone with such little exposure to history, polyscience, and media.


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-06-2004 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
hahaha, dude, you just admited to being a fucking idiot, everyone knows that, every single news source you just quoted is highly liberal. Not sure about your local news though, but judging from how stupid you and your countrymen are I bet that they are liberal also.

CNN, BBC, Guardian, and NPR are all regarded as extremely libral biased news here. I can't even argue with someone with such little exposure to history, polyscience, and media.


please show me your unbiased news sourses and i will shut up


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