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Posted by DigiNut on Apr-13-2004 02:35:

Relationship q (NOT advice)

I was privy to a neat little public spectacle today of a guy telling off his girlfriend (both of whom were complete strangers to me, FYI, this happened in a coffee shop), and it got me thinking...

Say you had to pick between one of two extremes:

A: A total slut that's a constant source of fun and/or comfort for you... and for anyone and everyone else who happens to be in the vicinity; or

B: A bitch/jackass who seems entirely devoted to you but is demanding, possessive, jealous, and often treats you wrong.

Assuming all other personality aspects are equal, which would you pick? I know there are probably some "balanced" people, but I would say that most are leaning at least a little bit toward either A or B, which makes sense because if your significant other doesn't require too much attention from you, there's a good chance they're getting it somewhere else.

I'm curious to everyone's opinion - both from the guys and gals here.


Posted by dukes on Apr-13-2004 02:37:

well seen as both options suck i would go with looks.


Posted by JayD on Apr-13-2004 02:38:

Both options are on the same level like you said. If those were the only types of girls in the world I don't think anyone would be able to stand eachother period.

Stay single?

JaY


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-13-2004 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by dukes
well seen as both options suck i would go with looks.

There was a reason I said "all other things equal". Seriously, both options do suck but that's the whole point.


Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-13-2004 02:41:

Damn dude, that's extremely hard for me to pick....




I love to be spoiled with comfort and all the mushy stuff, but if she's gonna be giving it up to anyone, WTF man.

On the other hand, being devoted to non-stop but being treated WRONG....aw man, if its ANYTHING i hate its being treated like trash.....


This is a major double-edged sword....dude, i cant answer that cuz I honestly dont know......


Posted by spacechica on Apr-13-2004 02:44:

I think I would go for the one which calls to my heart the most...

But to answer your question, tough to say, but I may have to lean more towards B. Communication is a two-way "street."


Posted by jinxed84 on Apr-13-2004 02:45:

well if you know shes gonna be with you and with other dudes, providing they are losers maybe A. it just sounds flexible, have your fun and leave ya know?

b would kinda suck. being treated like shit just isnt fun.


ideal would be inbetween for me IMO(i guess thats true for most people)


Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-13-2004 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
There was a reason I said "all other things equal". Seriously, both options do suck but that's the whole point.



Sigh. Fuck it. I been through it once before. For the sake of argument, B.


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-13-2004 02:47:

Ok, just to clarify, obviously very few people literally fit into one extreme or the other - but most people are a little bit leaning toward one side or the other. So I guess what I'm really asking is, which is more important to you - how someone treats you in private, or how they behave themselves in public?

Obviously it's a good thing to be treated right when it's just the two of you, but if that came at the cost of having to feel embarrassed or paranoid, is it worth it?

I'll let people answer, won't reply for a little while - I'm just saying, obviously these both suck, but which one do you think is worse.


Posted by Turbonium on Apr-13-2004 02:47:

Why not B - just treat her like shit back. Due to her characteristics, she doesn't seem like the type of girl that would leave you even though you did treat her like shit.

So basically, you'd both be devoted to one another, she wouldn't be sleeping around etc., and you'd be even again in the sense that you treat each other like shit.


Posted by JayD on Apr-13-2004 02:51:

If you had no other option.. B. For A. Having a girl that sleeps around is worse than a girl who's a bitch every now and then.

JaY


Posted by moncster on Apr-13-2004 02:58:

B, because both sucks, but at least with B I can feel special/important.


Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-13-2004 03:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Turbonium
Why not B - just treat her like shit back. Due to her characteristics, she doesn't seem like the type of girl that would leave you even though you did treat her like shit.

So basically, you'd both be devoted to one another, she wouldn't be sleeping around etc., and you'd be even again in the sense that you treat each other like shit.



Agreed. B. I mean, fuck. It's TOTALLY against my morals to treat a girl like shit.....


.....UNLESS she has it coming to her.


Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-13-2004 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by moncster
B, because both sucks, but at least with B I can feel special/important.


Hmmmmm....great point.


Posted by BobbyV on Apr-13-2004 03:19:

Prolly B. Gotta have the love factor, and I would treat her like shit so it was a 50/50 relationship


Posted by whiskers on Apr-13-2004 03:28:

B and if i had to go to extremes, she'd be walking the plank every time she'd get bitchy on me.

i'd convert her to the most caring person in no time


Posted by drgoodvibe on Apr-13-2004 03:33:

Re: Relationship q (NOT advice)

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I was privy to a neat little public spectacle today of a guy telling off his girlfriend (both of whom were complete strangers to me, FYI, this happened in a coffee shop), and it got me thinking...

Say you had to pick between one of two extremes:

A: A total slut that's a constant source of fun and/or comfort for you... and for anyone and everyone else who happens to be in the vicinity; or

B: A bitch/jackass who seems entirely devoted to you but is demanding, possessive, jealous, and often treats you wrong.


sluts can be turned into good girls.. and bitchs can also be turned into good girls.. its just a matter of effort and a nack for determination. But she must want to change. I have no patience for either types of girls, if she doesnt change, I'd rather be alone, simple. Besides.. theres A LOT of fish in the sea, when one fails there's 2.5 billion more where she came from.


Posted by Turbonium on Apr-13-2004 03:51:

Re: Re: Relationship q (NOT advice)

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
there's 2.5 billion more where she came from.


Heh, this brings up something. I always like to estimate how many good looking girls of a certain type there are in the world, lol

So lets say there's 3 billion girls in the world. Of the 3 billion, we'll say 30% are between 30 and 18. So now we're at 900 million (I think).

Ok, now let's say we want to figure out how many good looking brunettes there are.

So of the 900 million, we'll say about 40% have brown hair, or a shade close to it (pulling numbers outta nowhere here). So that gives us 360 million. Now out of these girls, we'll say that 30% of them are very good looking or better.

So that leaves us with 108 million very good looking or better brunettes aged between 18 and 30, inclusive.

Then we factor in that very good looking girls in this age range are usually not single, so multiply that by 10% to get the number of single girls...

10,800,000 very good looking brunette girls aged between 18 and 30 that are single, in the whole world.

This is probably the most inaccurate estimate ever btw. If anyone wants to add anything to it, go ahead.

So yeah, I don't mean to thread hijack, so everyone BACK ON TOPIC!!!


Posted by DigiNut on Apr-13-2004 03:51:

Interesting responses. So no guys are in favour of the booty call relationship? Having a girl who you can just call up, have a good time, and forget about later? I'm surprised! I never said it had to be a long-term or intimate relationship, although whether or not you want a long-term one will obviously factor into whether you pick A or B.

Sluts turning into good girls is a contentious point to me. It may happen naturally over time, over a LONG time, but if I find out that the girl I'm going out with is a slut, I'd call her maybe 3 YEARS later not 3 days. Bitches turning into good girls... maybe. Like Beh said, they have to really want this and that means they have to be able to empathize. It's something that I would again say takes years, not days. I am pretty damn assertive when it comes to these things, but it seems like some people you just can't reason with. You ask them to show a little more consideration and they basically walk off.

Personally I think I'd rather have the "A". As time goes by I've grown some balls and learned how to put my foot down when a girl acts whorish - and if I decide to cut her loose, I feel good about it, not remorseful. But fighting in private all the time really sucks, I think it wears you out and you get sick of it eventually, and if things finally hit rock bottom then the breakup can be very painful and when you see them a few days/weeks later it's like... oh god, why did she have to be here.

Just my thoughts though - everybody continue, please.


Posted by Turbonium on Apr-13-2004 03:56:

Hmm, well, I don't have any experience "sleeping around" like some of you may (no offense intended), so the thing is, how probable is it to pick up an STD or two from option A?

If it's pretty likely, and especially if you're STD free to start with, it would be smarter to go option B, wouldn't it?


Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-13-2004 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by BobbyV
Prolly B. Gotta have the love factor, and I would treat her like shit so it was a 50/50 relationship


Another good point. *starts taking down notes.*


Posted by Arbiter on Apr-13-2004 04:17:

I'm going to go with choice A. I wouldn't enjoy a relationship with a possessive, jealous individual for a moment. And what is the point of a relationship unless I'm going to actually be enjoying it? Quite clearly, there is no point.

At least the slut is fun to be around. Sure, the relationship is meaningless. But to me, that's a whole hell of a lot better than meaningfully painful.


Posted by whiskers on Apr-13-2004 04:22:

quote:
1st Guy: Hey old man, whatcha doin' up there?
Old Man: Uhh, I'm not sure
3rd Guy: Need any help getting down?
Old Man: Naah, I don't think so.
4th Guy: Stupid bastard.
3rd Guy: No worse than us. He's all action and no theory. We're all theory and no action.


Posted by montie on Apr-13-2004 05:04:

I'd go with girl A most definatly.

Being in a relationship with a girl that treats you bad and who hangs on you is a horrible thing. Your miserable all the time cuz you don't want ot be around the bitch who treats you shitty and she will suck up all your time.
Theres no happyness in that relationship.

In situation A there is atleast some happyness in that you have fun with eachother. You can also have a relationship with the girl and not be completly commited. It can be hard, depending on what type of mindset you go into things with.
Don't ever expect anything. Just enjoy it. Your having fun.


Posted by Photo_bot_2k1 on Apr-13-2004 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
1st Guy: Hey old man, whatcha doin' up there?
Old Man: Uhh, I'm not sure
3rd Guy: Need any help getting down?
Old Man: Naah, I don't think so.
4th Guy: Stupid bastard.
3rd Guy: No worse than us. He's all action and no theory. We're all theory and no action.


where the hell is guy number 2


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