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North Korean Propaganda Website

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Read the BS thats on every page..

That's some funny stuff! Especially the tourism part. "Come experience the reality of North Korea for yourself!"

The reality of undrinkable water! poor electricity! starving adults and children!

actually i saw a short documentary on north korea's tourism industry on Foreign Correspondent

There are epic statues of his holiness everywhere, the military presentations look amazing, etc

the team were welcome to film anywhere around this city but outside the city they needed a chaperon, and were not allowed to take the camera

fortunately they smuggled a small camera out, so we got to see lots of dirt and millions of starving people eating grass

pyongyang is a showcase city... everything is perfect.


by the way, anyone has a video of those cool presentation with thousands of soldiers and kids carrying flags and doing synchronized movements... you know what i am talking about, help me find them

Wow i wanna go there

hehe, too bad you support their gas chambers if you pay 160euro per night there...

check out this links

http://www.korea-dpr.com/kfa2004/flash.htm

http://www.korea-dpr.com/kfa2004/sinchon.htm

Funny things is also that they use paypal to pay for their services.. hehe

"During the war, the armican imperialists launched an average amount of 18 bombs per each square meter converting all Pyongyang and other cities into ashes." <--- Is that true?

http://www.korea-dpr.com/ssi/kfa-form.htm <-- Korean friendship association. Join?

and their news agency is just great
http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm

hehe

Yes, I've seen that site before.

Wonderful, I must say

I don't understand how you people seem to be very aware of what the situation is in Korea without ever been there? If we all believe what we see and hear on the news and all around the internet, then we should all think that Sadam bombed the WTC, that Iraqies are evil people and that all of Europe hates us. Try not to condemn North Korea and be more openminded! Hatred on our part will only create more hatred on their part and in responce what are they forced to do, create nuclear weapons.

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Originally posted by Itso I don't understand how you people seem to be very aware of what the situation is in Korea without ever been there? If we all believe what we see and hear on the news and all around the internet, then we should all think that Sadam bombed the WTC, that Iraqies are evil people and that all of Europe hates us. Try not to condemn North Korea and be more openminded! Hatred on our part will only create more hatred on their part and in responce what are they forced to do, create nuclear weapons.

Is that to say that what we believe we know, and what our intelligence and humanitarian agencies believes they know for facts about N. Korea, are actually untrue?

Boy, I guess I must be really duped about those starving millions of children then.

Do you have evidence to show otherwise? I think your analogy between Iraq and N. Korea is false because it was known that we had conflicting intelligence on things like WMD - Bush/Wolfowitz/Rummy/Cheney just decided not to weigh it very heavily (actually, I submit they blatantly ignored it). I don't believe that's even remotely the case for N. Korea's starvation and suppression, but if you have evidence to counter that, by all means present it.

Cool. I am now a friend of Korea. I can't wait till I meet a real FBI agent!!

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Originally posted by Itso I don't understand how you people seem to be very aware of what the situation is in Korea without ever been there? If we all believe what we see and hear on the news and all around the internet, then we should all think that Sadam bombed the WTC, that Iraqies are evil people and that all of Europe hates us. Try not to condemn North Korea and be more openminded! Hatred on our part will only create more hatred on their part and in responce what are they forced to do, create nuclear weapons.

Are you for real, forget about the Nuclear Weapons or propoganda. Kim Jong-Il has prison camps in which some North Koreans are kept when deemed so by the leaders, this according to people who have gotten out of North Korea. The place is a social blight. I have seen documentaries covering North Korea and even with the North Korean minders watching everything that is recorded and said the place still looks sad to exist in. I don't think anyone hates North Korea, what is hated is the leadership headed by Kim Jong-Il who truly believes that North Korea is a paradise. "Our hatred forces them to creat nukes" Maybe we should wonder why a failed state needs nukes when it can't even feed its people but rely on international aid, including from the Evil U.S.A. Go figure.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Is that to say that what we believe we know, and what our intelligence and humanitarian agencies believes they know for facts about N. Korea, are actually untrue?

What if I tell you that you have a burglar in your back yard, are you going to believe me or are you going to check for yourself and then decide whether I was right or not. If you have been to North Korea and have seen all the so called bad people then it's OK for you to condemn them, but since you havn't, don't trust everything you are told and don't fuel the hate war. Because it is a hate war, we are tought to hate. Hate europeans, hate canadians, hate mexicans, hate terrorists, hate everyone who does not agree with us. And the world sees that and becomes more and more scared and eventually it is forced to find a way to deffend itself, ie N. Korea's nuclear weapons program. That's what I was trying to say in my previous post.

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Originally posted by Itso What if I tell you that you have a burglar in your back yard, are you going to believe me or are you going to check for yourself and then decide whether I was right or not. If you have been to North Korea and have seen all the so called bad people then it's OK for you to condemn them, but since you havn't, don't trust everything you are told and don't fuel the hate war. Because it is a hate war, we are tought to hate. Hate europeans, hate canadians, hate mexicans, hate terrorists, hate everyone who does not agree with us. And the world sees that and becomes more and more scared and eventually it is forced to find a way to deffend itself, ie N. Korea's nuclear weapons program. That's what I was trying to say in my previous post.

What if I told you there is ice on Europa, but since you haven't jumped on a spacecraft yourself and been there, would you believe me regardless? Or better yet, would you believe the cosmologists who know this to be true?

You're making a logical fallacy here depicting that since I haven't been there, I know nothing about it. However, there are confirmed reports and known facts about the starvation throughout that entire country, and those facts are widely accepted worldwide. Even N. Korea's few allies admit as much.

You're really preaching to the choir when you are discussing propaganda and fact-checking. I'm quite an advocate myself. However, the evidence is not circumstantial when it comes to population starvation and suppression - these are known facts.

In order to dispute such facts, you must show the courtesy of presenting conflicting evidence. As of yet, you have failed to do so. IOW, give me a reason to believe you - show me some contrary evidence, and I'll consider your side of the story.

If you read both my post carefully you will notice that I never made any claims about the situation in N. Korea. So don't try to argue that I am "fact-checking" whithout evidence. Unlike you, I never claimed anything. All I said is that we should try to be more peacefull in our approach to N. Korea, don't you agree?

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Originally posted by Itso If you read both my post carefully you will notice that I never made any claims about the situation in N. Korea.

You claimed we were taught to hate

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Originally posted by Itso If you read both my post carefully you will notice that I never made any claims about the situation in N. Korea. So don't try to argue that I am "fact-checking" whithout evidence. Unlike you, I never claimed anything. All I said is that we should try to be more peacefull in our approach to N. Korea, don't you agree?

Of course I agree, but to a certain extent - the caveat(sp?) would be if there was an actual "imminent" threat towards the US or our allies. We should use diplomacy as much as possible, and should exhaust all possibilities before thinking about a war with this country.

True, your posts did not directly make any claims about the situation in N. Korea. However, your posts did imply our incorrectness of the situation in N. Korea, which is comparable to saying our statements about N. Korea are false. To support your statements, you mentioned that we had to actually "be there" in order to know what the actual situation is in N. Korea. It was this implication and fallacious logic that I took a minor issue with. Lastly, it is not N. Korea that any of us are condemning, rather, the Pyongyong regime and oppressive government - hopefully this is somewhat obvious.

Aside of that, I think we probably agree that all options should be weighed with this country. And as long as they do not pose an actual threat to us or our allies (i.e. S. Korea), we can continue infinitum with our "hostile stance" without ever firing a shot.

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Originally posted by Itso If you read both my post carefully you will notice that I never made any claims about the situation in N. Korea. So don't try to argue that I am "fact-checking" whithout evidence. Unlike you, I never claimed anything. All I said is that we should try to be more peacefull in our approach to N. Korea, don't you agree?

The pacifist approach was tried and failed during the Clinton years. In exchange for building two light water nuclear reactors and oil shipments so they can feed and clothe their people, they renegged on their agreement to abandon their nuclear weapons program. Over the past several decades they have continuously violated DMZ agreements along with building up significant amounts of troops and artillery enscarpments north of the 38th parallel. On top of this, their hostile rhetoric only reinforces the belief that the dictatorial leadership are a bunch of raving lunatics. So in response to all of this I suppose the US should remove its troops manning the dmz? That they'll all of a sudden comply, whereas every action on their part for the past several decades says otherwise?

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