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Calling all techno junkies, prog heads, house freaks and other elitists in general...

Some of you might know that I'm working on a guide on Electronic music and doing a very long research on the topic. Apart from the studies on how everything happened, having sound samples is also fundamental for any guide, which is the main reason of this thread to exist.

Along with the classic tunes, every genre has their "favourites" (just think of "Cafe Del Mar", "For an Angel" and "Urban Train" here on TA). Therefore, I'd like to know what people who are die-hard listeners of other genres like in their respective styles of music. I've added some guesses: feel free to correct if I'm mistaken Any further info on these genres/tunes are also welcome

Disco house:
?

Deep house:
?

French House:
Daft Punk - One more time

Progressive Trance:
Sasha - Xpander

Progressive House:
?

Nu School Breaks:
?

Trance Breaks/Progressive Breaks:
Hybrid - Unfinished Symphony

Classic Garage:
?

UK Hard House:
Cortina - Music is Moving

Techstep:
?

Hardstep:
E-Z Rollers - Meatball

Jazzstep/Intelligent Drum'n'bass:
?

Psy-trance/Goa:
Astral Projection - Mahadeva
GMS feat. Chicago - We're on a mission

EBM:
Front 242 - Headhunter

Electroclash:
Ficherspooner - Emerge
Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (Is this really electroclash? I think it is)

And tribal house, tribal techno, tribal trance, deep techno, latin house, latin techno,...

Feel free to add more genres/tunes/points of view/+1's/constructive opinions, et coetera By the way, I don't need trance recommendations, as we've already got plenty of them here in this board

Thank you for your time

I'm not sure about this.....for example, in prog trance some would say As The Rush Comes, some would say Xpander, or Junkie XL - Bon Voyage for that matter. I have only explored Electronic Music for 2 years myself, so I really can't say anything for sure. I think you'd need one poll for each sub-genre if you want the most-classicised tracks to be ranked correctly. And the voters would have to be people who knew the respective genre from balls to bones (means that person has listened to maaaaaaany tracks inside the genre and knows all its elements)

Otherwise, I believe this will end as a discussion on what's considered a sub-genre that exists or not, and so on.....But, you never know

Good luck on your analysis

Tribal and Latin techno are pretty much the same thing for me, if not very close..

Ben Sims - Manipulated (Adam Beyer remix) is a good example, and one of the first tribal techno tracks using a Latin vocal (which has afterwards been raped to death by the likes of Cave, Alegria and Monika Kruse)

Some other techno genres you should consider are acid techno and hard techno (the utter crap Rush, Remus, Stephan & Vincent de Wit,... are spitting out, and which sounds like a chainsaw attack to a metal plant to me).. Can't really give you any recommendations on those subgenres though..

Oh yeah, don't forget to place Rolando - Knights of the jaguar somewhere in a genre as well, it's really a techno classic..

Good luck with it, it's hard to place something in a particular genre, I usually don't bother since everyone thinks different about it.. I have only two genres: 'good' and 'bad'.

I'm not sure what kind of House this is, but "Size 9 - I Am Ready" sounds like a classic. Released 1997 or so.

disco house:
armand van helden - you don't know me

for me French House is synonymous with Disco House
(I call it pretentious-sweaty-french-disco-house )
for that I would put pretty much any Daft Punk track pre-2000
DJ Cassius - 1999
Stardust - Music Sounds Better
or something by Dimitri From Paris or something
possibly Les Rhythmes Digitales - Jacques Your Body
check out the Respect is Burning compilation series for classic tunes

for Prog-Breaks, I would put down Virgin Souls - Personality (James Zabiela's Oh So Deep Mix)

For tribal-techno and latin-techno respectivly, I'm not sure if they would be considered classics, but certainly they are perfect examples for the genres:
Cave - Street Carnival / the Carne Levale EP for tribal, Monika Kruse - Latin Lovers for latin. Both were big hits last year.
There is A LOT of overlap between tribal and latin techno though.

What about Tech-House, Schranz Techno, Minimal Techno, Detroit Techno, etc?

minimal Techno

Labels like sender, areal, plus 8 and kompakt are great exponents of this genre.

richie hawtin - spastik
The whole speicher series on kompakt - michael mayer speicher 14
all recent releases on sender are fantastic

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Originally posted by beema for me French House is synonymous with Disco House (I call it pretentious-sweaty-french-disco-house ) for that I would put pretty much any Daft Punk track pre-2000 DJ Cassius - 1999 Stardust - Music Sounds Better or something by Dimitri From Paris or something possibly Les Rhythmes Digitales - Jacques Your Body check out the Respect is Burning compilation series for classic tunes

Hehe, there's a subtle difference between disco house and french house, but I may merge them if I realise the difference is more subtle than I find it now Nice tunes, by the way

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Originally posted by montana disco house: armand van helden - you don't know me

Check

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Originally posted by beema for Prog-Breaks, I would put down Virgin Souls - Personality (James Zabiela's Oh So Deep Mix)

Note taken

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Originally posted by basd Tribal and Latin techno are pretty much the same thing for me, if not very close.. Ben Sims - Manipulated (Adam Beyer remix) is a good example, and one of the first tribal techno tracks using a Latin vocal (which has afterwards been raped to death by the likes of Cave, Alegria and Monika Kruse)

They're close indeed As Beema said...

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There is A LOT of overlap between tribal and latin techno though

... reason why I shall group these together despite of its differences (but I'll explain what is what, obviously )

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Originally posted by basd Some other techno genres you should consider are acid techno and hard techno (the utter crap Rush, Remus, Stephan & Vincent de Wit,... are spitting out, and which sounds like a chainsaw attack to a metal plant to me).. Can't really give you any recommendations on those subgenres though..

I'm gonna look for these As for Acid Techno, I've got some already, as I really love the genre

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Originally posted by basd Oh yeah, don't forget to place Rolando - Knights of the jaguar somewhere in a genre as well, it's really a techno classic..

Alright

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Originally posted by basd Good luck with it, it's hard to place something in a particular genre, I usually don't bother since everyone thinks different about it.. I have only two genres: 'good' and 'bad'.

Indeed, reason why I'm studying it. Techno is a tricky genre though: sometimes you can get a more accurate definition by specifying the place of origin (American Techno, European Techno and Asian/Latin American techno).

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Originally posted by noonboy I think you'd need one poll for each sub-genre if you want the most-classicised tracks to be ranked correctly. And the voters would have to be people who knew the respective genre from balls to bones (means that person has listened to maaaaaaany tracks inside the genre and knows all its elements)

Indeed, this is the reason why I said in my post I want the help from "elitists", because they're the ones who know their favourite genre better than anyone else Having a massive amount of posts would be a good idea, but there could be problems, not to mention it would flood the polls section pissing Coup off

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Originally posted by chesco minimal Techno Labels like sender, areal, plus 8 and kompakt are great exponents of this genre. richie hawtin - spastik The whole speicher series on kompakt - michael mayer speicher 14 all recent releases on sender are fantastic

Acknowledged
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Thanks for your posts everyone

Could somebody please tell me what Techstep is?

Il try and contribute some too then, theese are my best guesses or, if you like
my definitions.

Progressive House:
Brancaccio % Aisher - Its gonna be a lovely day [Original Mix]
Chab - The Dub Sessions [Original Mix]
Shmuel & Choopie - The Love
Prophets of Sound - Tide of Dreams [Brancaccio & Aisher Remix]

Nu-Skool Breakz:

Evil 9 - Cakehole
21st Century Fux - Sunspirit [Ivan Gouch and Luke Chables Oreo Breakbeat Remix]
Chicken Lips - He Not In [Mutinys Real Life Mix]
Steve Porter - Vodka Cranberries [Tim Fretwell Remix]

Prog-House --> Dark Suite feat. Aura- Dark Sweet Piano (Starchaser Remix).mp3

I'll act like I know something and be like, Progressive House classic:

Zee - Dreamtime

Hmm... possible addition of Big Beat maybe?

Stuff like The Chemical Brothers - Block Rocking Beats.

Intelligent DnB - something by Bukem, I believe he's the one that coined the phrase and pioneered it. Music is by far my favorite, but diehard fans may have other opinions.

I only saw your question now, Beema. As for Detroit techno, it's all sorted, but I need some examples of what good schranz would be (I know what it is, but I'm not a follower, so...) and the same for tech-house. Minimal Techno, I'm meaning to add some stuff from Richie Hawtin and the tunes chesco posted

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Originally posted by Hard_NRG Could somebody please tell me what Techstep is?

Drum'n'bass produced with a strong techy influence. Listen to "Baron - Meet the Creeper"

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Hmm... possible addition of Big Beat maybe? Stuff like The Chemical Brothers - Block Rocking Beats.

Yes, I'm gonna add this too... it's just that, due to its popularity, I had some tunes in mind already, such as "Rockafeller Skank" and "Breathe"... but I almost forgot this one, cheers

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Originally posted by Tranc3 Intelligent DnB - something by Bukem, I believe he's the one that coined the phrase and pioneered it. Music is by far my favorite, but diehard fans may have other opinions.

Bukem is indeed nice Do you happen to know if there are other popular artists? It seems he's the only one with the spotlight...

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Originally posted by Radagast I'll act like I know something and be like, Progressive House classic: Zee - Dreamtime

Thank you

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Originally posted by Psychonoise Prog-House --> Dark Suite feat. Aura- Dark Sweet Piano (Starchaser Remix).mp3

Obrigado, Sr. Morikawa

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Originally posted by webbie Il try and contribute some too then, theese are my best guesses or, if you like my definitions. Progressive House: Brancaccio % Aisher - Its gonna be a lovely day [Original Mix] Chab - The Dub Sessions [Original Mix] Shmuel & Choopie - The Love Prophets of Sound - Tide of Dreams [Brancaccio & Aisher Remix] Nu-Skool Breakz: Evil 9 - Cakehole 21st Century Fux - Sunspirit [Ivan Gouch and Luke Chables Oreo Breakbeat Remix] Chicken Lips - He Not In [Mutinys Real Life Mix] Steve Porter - Vodka Cranberries [Tim Fretwell Remix]

Cheers, I was indeed a bit clueless about what good nu-skool breaks I could get
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Once again, thanks

Psychedelic

Eskimo - party pooper (Amazing)
cosmosis & mumbojumbo - just say no (the melodic mumble)
Space Tribe - Time s-t-r-e-t-c-h
Astrix - Eye to Eye
Protoculture - Peekaboo
Talamasca - Atlantis
X-porters - Back to back
Younger Brother - Magic Monkey Juice

old skool rave

prodigy - charly
sl2 - dj's take control
dj seduction - hardcore heaven
sonz of da loop da loop era - far out
moby - go

trancey breaks

age of love (wrecked angle mix)
chakra - i am (wrecked angle)
mike koglin - silence (tekara mix)

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Originally posted by Lira Thank you

Well if you want to know the truth I just went through some Digweed sets from 95 and picked out the one I thought sounded good and was pretty sure was progressive house.

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Originally posted by Radagast Well if you want to know the truth I just went through some Digweed sets from 95 and picked out the one I thought sounded good and was pretty sure was progressive house.

hehe No problem, I'm gonna check it out nonetheless

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Originally posted by Ian^ Psychedelic Eskimo - party pooper (Amazing) cosmosis & mumbojumbo - just say no (the melodic mumble) Space Tribe - Time s-t-r-e-t-c-h Astrix - Eye to Eye Protoculture - Peekaboo Talamasca - Atlantis X-porters - Back to back Younger Brother - Magic Monkey Juice old skool rave prodigy - charly sl2 - dj's take control dj seduction - hardcore heaven sonz of da loop da loop era - far out moby - go trancey breaks age of love (wrecked angle mix) chakra - i am (wrecked angle) mike koglin - silence (tekara mix)

Thanks, Ian
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I'll soon compilate all the info I've got, thanks for all the help so far and keep it coming, please

Thing with progressive house is that it has evolved over the years. The tune that kicked it all off back in the day many believe to be Leftfied - Not Forgotten, and other stuff on the Guerilla record label like William Orbit - Water From a Vine Leaf or React 2 Rhythm - Intoxication. That sounds nothing like the progressive sound u get now.

What is called progressive house these days really evolved from the trancier stuff that djs like Sasha & Digweed played 96-99, and was called trance or progressive trance (stuff like Bedrock - Set In Stone, LSG - Netherworld, Atlas - Compass Error etc. When the whole euro trance thing kicked off big time in 1999, they didnt want to be associated with it and played darker stuff. The stuff thats called progressive house/trance now.

You have an impossible task ahead of you, sorry to sound a bit bleak, but you really would have to have been around from about 1987 and kept an interest in all genres throughout that period to be able to produce something that you felt was accurate enough.

However I cannot recomend this website highly enough to get a bit of background in. http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html Tjere are a few issues i have with the site, but basically its spot on.

The problem with the info on this site is that its also always going to be contempary, so its probably not a bad idea just to do a contempary guide of dance music and that way you wont get any problems.

I'm sure Lira knows about Ishkur's guide...and should be in contact with him while making his 'unbiased' guide if he's smart.

Re: Calling all techno junkies, prog heads, house freaks and other elitists in general...

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Originally posted by Lira UK Hard House: Cortina - Music is Moving

That is an awful track. I think something like Tony De Vit - The Dawn would be more appropriate.


Classic Garage:
Richie Dan - Temptation

One of my fav garage tracks anyway.


and maybe another category?

Speed Garage:
Second Protocal - Basslick

ok a bit more hard house

Tony De Vit - Are you all ready / The Dawn
Hyperlogic - Only Me (Stimulant DJs Remix)
Artemesia - Bits & Pieces
Signum - What ya got 4 me

UK Hard Dance

Guyver - Man on the moon
Riot Bros - Ripped Out
Travel - Bulgarian (Paul Maddox Rmx)
Azure - Sunset
JX - Restless (Guyver Rmx)


Hard Trance

SHOKK - Isn't it all a little strange
Flutlicht - Icarus
Green Court - Silent Heart (Flutlicht rmx)
Dark Moon - Zeitreise
DuMonde - Never Look Back
Tankis & Savietto - Antea

Happy Hardcore - dont keel me

Force & Styles - Shining Down, Heart of Gold, Pretty Green Eyes
Breeze - Fly Away
Hixxy - Toytown
Bang! - Shooting Star, Break of dawn
DJ Seduction - Never gonna let you go
Vinylgroover - Bright Eyes


hope thats a few more

Disco house:

Frankie Knuckles's stuff

Deep house:

Marshall Jefferson
Larry Heard

Speed Garage

Sneaker Pimps - Spin Spin Sugar (Armand Van Helden's Dark Garage Mix)

Nu Breaks

Ils, Evil 9, Adam Freeland

i wouldn't classify finished symphony as prog/trance breaks, that tune just lies in a genre of its own, its basically a classical piece with nigh on turn of the 21st century percussion, something like if i survive would be more fitting although it's still not a great example

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