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Posted by DJ NEMESIS on Apr-15-2004 11:35:

Exclamation GTR, Union Productions and the show this Sat. Apr. 17 th.. (feedback)

To clarify, let's make this not so much a thread about who's going to the show, or questions about the show, since there's another thread for that specifically.. but rather discussion on what's being put into motion with this.

This could potentially start a new direction for Vancouver's trance scene. Why do I say that? A few reasons. At the helm of Union productions is Montana & Res.. and anyone who knows them knows they are flat out trance junkies. Of anyone else I have caught spinning trance in B.C. these boys seem more on track with fresh new tracks and quality trance than anyone else I have come across or spun with. The flipside to that coin is they know top notch trance from cheesy garbage trance.. and seem to keep things fairly tidy in that repect.

I had a chat with Marty (montana) last night to get an idea on where they want to go with things and what they are hoping to achieve out of this and want you guys to know what's up with them.

Their intentions are very solid. They want to bring quality trance acts in and produce sick shows and keep it to a $20 price tag.. all the while maintaining a show that's meant to retain a crowd with a solid vibe rather than a marketing venture. This is a huge difference. You aren't likely to see frilly ticket marketing (like $15 early bird, $20 up til __, $25 week of, $_ at door)... but rather just $20 straight across and $25 at door.

This Saturday's show has 14 DJs (one international) spanning across 2 clubs side by side (The Cave and Yuk Yuk's) plus a sweet lightshow I'm told. Seeing someone pull this together for $20 is VERY solid, and something that we will see continue to happen if the support is there. I wrote off the trance scene here a while ago, stopping playing within the city alltogether to focus strictly on out of town bookings. So to see an opening for things to get a bit of an overhaul and head in a quality direction away from the bad vibes and fairly uneducated/incoherent crowds at plaza of nations mass marketed cookie cutter parties.. is something I would definetely like to see. The Plaza ending could be just what's needed to refine what trance really is in this city, and to make trance not so much of a tainted word for so many.

I think it's going to take a miracle to pull this all off.. but if there was a time for it to happen it could likely be now. I know a hell of a lot of people have plenty to slag about Azim and his parties and Djing, but Azim has always been a businessman. I totally support what Marty and Adam are setting out to do with Union because they are and will always be DJs and complete trance heads first, and everything else coming second. If we are going to have anything much of a real solid trance scene here to speak of, we all have to start taking some ownership in it.

If you are stoked on what's happening with this and the idea and direction behind it, then get every single fucking trance head you know out to the show and let's support and build us a REAL trance scene! If this show goes off I guarantee they'll keep going for bigger trance acts as long as they aren't worried about losing money. As far as making money goes, it's about the furthest thing on their table. More people coming will just mean more money thrown into even bigger acts. I want to also talk to the boys about getting feedback from the TA community as far as what international acts are available and who should be booked locally as well.. including any other feedback. These are guys that will listen, and with input from the trance community we could all end up with something much better and tighter of a trance scene. No disrespect to Twisted, but out of curiousity have any of you ever felt any sort of ownership at a Twisted party? Felt stoked in supporting it and handing over your money? Felt the party was built to cater to what you personally wanted? I give Azim props for bringing SOME of the acts especially Armin in the last while, but there's gotta be a better setting to do it in rather than the usual feedback afterwards of "some great music, but vibe/party sucked".

Anyways, that's the end of my rant for now.. I sat and typed this all out when I have other stuff I am very much behind on, because I want you guys to know what's up and get off your asses and get this Trance scene THRIVING! Take some ownership!! Recruit new tranceheads and get everyone out!! Look at Viva for instance, although being a bit outta the way and a primarily asian club, any TA that walks through the doors there doesn't pay a cent of cover, and it's run by a TA as well. I admit I never make it out there to play or party there anymore due to my schedule and also it being in richmond, but that kind of people-for-the-people idealism is something we've gotta give respect and support to.

cheers!

-T


Posted by Sean Walsh on Apr-15-2004 15:39:

Be Cool!

Good post!


Posted by j_spot on Apr-15-2004 15:58:

I wish there was an applause smiley


Posted by Serotonin on Apr-15-2004 17:52:

real good post from a wise old trance dj.


Posted by djdoubledown on Apr-15-2004 18:11:

well said tom


Posted by Prism on Apr-15-2004 18:13:

Trance is definately evolving...I wish there would be more progressive trance/house being played @ the clubs, like really deep and progressive something by the people like: �zg�r Can, Infusion, Luke Chable, James Holden, Markus Schulz. Name a local DJ that plays that stuff huh...


Posted by djdoubledown on Apr-15-2004 18:15:

me^^^^


Posted by Prism on Apr-15-2004 18:18:

Sneaker Pimp

quote:
Originally posted by djdoubledown
me^^^^


got a demo then?


Posted by 24K on Apr-15-2004 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Prism
Trance is definately evolving...I wish there would be more progressive trance/house being played @ the clubs, like really deep and progressive something by the people like: �zg�r Can, Infusion, Luke Chable, James Holden, Markus Schulz. Name a local DJ that plays that stuff huh...


Yeap. I have records from everyone of those producers in my box. WIll deff be playing a few on Sat.


Posted by djdoubledown on Apr-15-2004 18:22:

shortly,i `m in the process of purchasing a new mixer,mine sound bleeds right now


Posted by Prism on Apr-15-2004 18:27:

ok that's what im on about...

Infusion - Girls Can Be Cruel
Powerplant - Blame (Luke Chable Remix)
Yunus & Subsky - Erotic Sumo
Peter Martin - Perfect Wave
Jase from Outta Space ft. Claire - Do What You Want (Infusion's Sky Mix)
Nicola Gala - Swing To Harmony
Planisphere - Symphotek *TUNE&.5*!
Li Kwan - Point Zero (Leama & Moor Remix)
Above & Beyond - No One On Earth (Gabriel & Dresden Remix)
�zg�r Can - Irony
Armin Van Buuren - Burned With Desire (Markus Schulz Coldharbour Remix)
Pinkbox Special - Simple
Probspot - Blueberry
Audioholics - External Key
Nathan Fake - Adam Edge
Rouzbeh Delavari - Lalala (�zg�r Can Remix)
Luke Chable pres Quest - The Shephard

A few examples of the most recent prog stuff that really excites me...all of them are taken from Markus Schulz's GDJBs. Watch out for Planisphere's Symphotek, L-Vee's alias, that's a top one of the moment...


Posted by djdoubledown on Apr-15-2004 18:54:

^^^some very good tracks there,i have 4 of them^^^
(my senses tell me danger)that`ll be my opener on sat.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
you know what i mean


Posted by Sean Walsh on Apr-15-2004 20:07:

Prism, pretty much all of my opening sets at Viva consist of Chable/Infusion/JXL style prog. I'd love to play that stuff later on in the night but it just doesn't go over that well =/

I'll have to check out the Planisphere tune that you mention, because to be honest I haven't been all that impressed with that alias in the past.


Posted by mchammered on Apr-15-2004 23:48:

Great post!

I am invloved with FNK.ca which is part of Union. GTR is just the beginning and if the support is proven then there are many great things to come.

The scene is chaging, the old guard has passed the torch to the new kids on the block and it is time to show the people what we can do.

I have fellow DJ's who are putting on clubnights and they are born from the crowd that says "the music rocked but the vibed sucked" so they are on the forefront of trying to provide the elements that lacked in the past.

Union can't change the scene by themsleves but in co-ordination and co-operation with other venues and promotion companies and with support from the public things can and will happen.

I hope to see many of you this weekend at GTR.

Come up and say "Hello" to the blue haired smurf here and I'll buy you a drink.

Until then.

Winston


Posted by 24K on Apr-15-2004 23:52:

^^^


Posted by Shad0wmaster on Apr-16-2004 08:21:

GREAT post! Was fine reading, and I heartily agree with everything you said

I'm not really a fan of Montana & Res as DJs...they do know their quality trance from their cheese, but last time I heard them spin (at Twisted), they played a set that was just trance anthem after trance anthem. I suppose that's what suited the crowd but I would have liked to see some more variety in their set, hearing them build it up instead of just nailing all the Armin-style anthems so early in the night. But the crowd was diggin it so I can't complain =P Montana & Res certainly show promise and they mix well

As for this upcoming show, I'm very stoked for it! The lineup is _quality_, and their interest in the music is clearly at the forefront. These guys know exactly what they're doing and what they're trying to achieve, and I'm proud to say that I'll be there supporting this every step of the way. This is truly the kind of event I've been waiting for, and the kind of event that this city needs more of. I think that the end of the Plaza is also the end of an era, and that we can expect great things in the future with groups like Union at the helm

See you there.
-Adam


Posted by ChadVanDyk on Apr-16-2004 17:31:

Fantastic Post!

Fantastic post by DJ Nemesis....I really wish it wasn't such a novel idea to take ownership and responsibility of something you love. But in today's world..it really seems like it is...man, I hate apathy.

quote:
Originally posted by Prism
Trance is definately evolving...I wish there would be more progressive trance/house being played @ the clubs, like really deep and progressive something by the people like: �zg�r Can, Infusion, Luke Chable, James Holden, Markus Schulz. Name a local DJ that plays that stuff huh...


I love the fact that you are looking for prog yet you have Eddie Halliwell in your signature....diversity rules.

quote:
Originally posted by DJDoubledown
^^^some very good tracks there,i have 4 of them^^^
(my senses tell me danger)that`ll be my opener on sat.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
you know what i mean


Man...I would love to hear that Infusion track live...


Posted by Prism on Apr-16-2004 18:06:

Re: Fantastic Post!

quote:
Originally posted by ChadVanDyk
I love the fact that you are looking for prog yet you have Eddie Halliwell in your signature....diversity rules.


Why not? I love Eddie Halliwell in terms of his mixing abilities and track selection, he is an extremely technically advanced DJ and I am yet to see someone to be able to mix like that guy, the thing is there aren't many recorded live sets from this guy so I can't listen to his stuff on a regular basis. I am really into progressive trance/house at the same time and there's enough of it to listen to every day, what da fuck you got against diversity?


Posted by ChadVanDyk on Apr-16-2004 18:21:

Re: Re: Fantastic Post!

quote:
Originally posted by Prism
Why not? I love Eddie Halliwell in terms of his mixing abilities and track selection, yet I am really into progressive trance/house, what da fuck you got against that?


Eaaasssy there.....I was commending you, not ridiculing you. I myself enjoy prog and harder trance as well. It's nice to see people who are open-minded and have diverse tastes in electronic music.


Posted by 24K on Apr-16-2004 20:12:

I would say that Preach is comparable to Eddie Halliwell


Posted by Seany_G on Apr-19-2004 00:15:

Great post Tom!


Posted by djsoma on Apr-20-2004 18:55:



^ I almost fell off my chair when I saw that. almost as good as zimmers grade 10 photo on the rythem nation flyer last summer.

I really enjoyed the show on saturday, room two was hard to find (it took me half a hour to find the place) so I think a few people missed out on a lot that went on in there but it was a solid night !
Tom said it best, good write up and thanks to Union and FNK for the booking and the great night.

wicked photo of me and my girl


Posted by Prism on Apr-20-2004 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by 24K
I would say that Preach is comparable to Eddie Halliwell


errm close enough but still no one can beat his unbelievable ability to scratch and mix!


Posted by Shad0wmaster on Apr-20-2004 23:51:

quote:
Originally posted by 24K
I would say that Preach is comparable to Eddie Halliwell


I just bought DJ Preach - Insomniak EP from Boomtown and I'm hammering it right now...fuck man, this is such a wicked tune...I'm going to open with this tomorrow night on CJSF

Edit: djsoma - glad you like my alliance You're free to join, of course. I was considering starting a shitstorm of epic proportions by posting it on FNK


Posted by djsoma on Apr-21-2004 00:20:

thank god we have our sences of humor! I think there will be more laughs than flames on old fnk!



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