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Posted by Spin Doctor on Apr-15-2004 18:07:

Question Al-Qa'ida offers Europe a Truce

Should we have said yes or no?

http://news.independent.co.uk/world...sp?story=511606


Posted by dukes on Apr-15-2004 18:36:

no....its a clever scam. they are playing with our democracy to get one up on us


Posted by tu_face on Apr-15-2004 19:14:

he can fuck right off. cunt.


Posted by Ian on Apr-15-2004 21:36:

bull and shit come to mind


Posted by Ste on Apr-15-2004 21:48:

no, bomb the fucking towel heads :Stongue:


Posted by sleepydragon on Apr-15-2004 23:27:

we should say yes then go in when bin laden doesnt expect it and blow him up


Posted by Ian on Apr-15-2004 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
we should say yes then go in when bin laden doesnt expect it and blow him up


which is probably exactly their plan for us


Posted by dukes on Apr-16-2004 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
which is probably exactly their plan for us


but as long as we do it faster than they do...


Posted by Misty Kitty on Apr-16-2004 08:21:

quote:
"I announce a truce with the European countries that do not attack Muslim countries," the speaker said.


this doesn't include us though does it,

I'm a peacful person myself however i think there are irreconsilable issues at stake and even if the goverenments decide truce the groups will still take things into their own hands.

Blow em all up, and blair and bush as well.


Posted by magnasoma on Apr-16-2004 09:47:

So who's gonna take a poll on when London gets bombed then. Monday or Tuesday?


Posted by Spin Doctor on Apr-16-2004 16:44:

What I find funny is how these �experts� can verify that all these tapes and messages have obviously come directly form Osama him self! It�s someone playing wind up if you ask me.


Posted by dukes on Apr-16-2004 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Doctor
What I find funny is how these �experts� can verify that all these tapes and messages have obviously come directly form Osama him self! It�s someone playing wind up if you ask me.


you get things that are voice pattern recognision machines which basily use forms of AI to check the likely hood of the freaquancy patterns match what is expected of this specific person. the AI behind this will recognise voices alot more acurately than any person could.
then people are used to decide if the language he used is consistant to his style.

basicly for it to be a hoax (assuming they used this technology whitch i know they have) then it would be one of the mot elaborate hoxes ever.


Posted by swisstoni on Apr-17-2004 11:41:

Al-Qaeida does not represent a body, a government or an institution, neither is he the representative of all terrorist organisations. It would be outrageous to reconcile with him as he is not the leader of all groups. we are giving him too much credit as it is imo. he can feck off


Posted by Streakfury on Apr-17-2004 15:04:

It pisses me off how they all say "stop attacking Muslims" in the east. Do they not realise that religion has got nothing to do with it?? If they possess the weapons and the balls to attack us and other countries (like the US), then of course we're going to use military force to stop them, Muslim or not. Bunch of wankers.


Posted by Spin Doctor on Apr-18-2004 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by dukes
basicly for it to be a hoax (assuming they used this technology whitch i know they have) then it would be one of the mot elaborate hoxes ever.


Ahhh, I have been enlightened!


Posted by KilldaDJ on Apr-18-2004 09:53:

King

id deny it and continue to bomb the mofos.


Posted by Turner on Apr-18-2004 15:46:

Nope, Kill the ****s. Nuclear bomb should work.


Posted by donegalredneck on Apr-18-2004 18:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
It pisses me off how they all say "stop attacking Muslims" in the east. Do they not realise that religion has got nothing to do with it?? If they possess the weapons and the balls to attack us and other countries (like the US), then of course we're going to use military force to stop them, Muslim or not. Bunch of wankers.



The attacks in US, Spain, and attacks that are going to happen in Britain take place because of US, Brit, etc. interference in the east. Imperialism is wrong, to oppose it is right. And although attacks on civilians can't be condoned in any way, it's understandable why they're happening.


Posted by Streakfury on Apr-19-2004 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by donegalredneck
The attacks in US, Spain, and attacks that are going to happen in Britain take place because of US, Brit, etc. interference in the east. Imperialism is wrong, to oppose it is right. And although attacks on civilians can't be condoned in any way, it's understandable why they're happening.


War in any sense is wrong, so it's understandable that they would retaliate if they were attacked. I'm no history expert, but who started it all?? I find it hard to believe that one day, America and Europe thought to themselves "lets bomb the fuck out of Iraq today". Which resulted in a retaliation of sorts by Iraq.

If that is the case, it's not Iraqi civilians who are being targeted by the US and UK, it's the military installations that could house weapons of mass destruction that are being bombed. If there are madmen in the east who have proved in the past that they're stupid enough to actually attack the west "in the name of God" ( ) then I say our governments have a responsibility to neutralize the threats. Retaliation is obviously expected, but what they do is unforgivable. And they should be stopped.


Posted by donegalredneck on Apr-19-2004 01:38:

Not sure of the history myself. But when Saddam was at war with Iran he was backed by the US, I'm not sure of what happened to ignite the Gulf War (perhaps Saddam invading Kuwait who are friends with US/Britain???) Similarly when the Afghan fighters (including Bin Laden and co.) were trying to put the Russians out it was the US who helped also. The western superpowers evidently back whichever side best suits the agenda they're toeing themselves.
In the first Gulf War around 300,000 Iraqis were killed/murdered by Britain/US, the latent number of deaths was much much higher. Then there's the US influence (or should I say practical control) of Israel who are currently occupying Palestine. So things like NY/Washington and Madrid weren't attacks on America and Spain, they were acts of retaliation.
As for the current events in Iraq, I feel sorry for the population of the country and for the wives and children of the occupation soldiers getting killed. As for the occupation forces themselves, well they have no right whatsoever to be there, and if it means one or the other getting killed, better it be the imperialists than the Iraqi resistance fighters.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-19-2004 03:07:

Drunk

Yeah.... m-kay..

Lets trust a terrorist...


Posted by magnasoma on Apr-19-2004 10:58:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Yeah.... m-kay..

Lets trust a terrorist...



you've got nothing to say and you're saying it too loudly. so bollocks.


Posted by sleepydragon on Apr-19-2004 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
War in any sense is wrong, so it's understandable that they would retaliate if they were attacked. I'm no history expert, but who started it all?? I find it hard to believe that one day, America and Europe thought to themselves "lets bomb the fuck out of Iraq today". Which resulted in a retaliation of sorts by Iraq.

If that is the case, it's not Iraqi civilians who are being targeted by the US and UK, it's the military installations that could house weapons of mass destruction that are being bombed. If there are madmen in the east who have proved in the past that they're stupid enough to actually attack the west "in the name of God" ( ) then I say our governments have a responsibility to neutralize the threats. Retaliation is obviously expected, but what they do is unforgivable. And they should be stopped.



none of that though justifies us killing around 30,000 innocent iraq people in the last iraq war it will never end they bomb us we bomb them then vise versa we shouldnt be even interfering with other countrys problems why do the americans feel that its there need to walk onto someones elses land and take control of it the USA do my head in there complete hypocrites they oppose terrorism yet they go round bombing people now thats terrorism controling someone by fear


Posted by Streakfury on Apr-20-2004 11:10:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
none of that though justifies us killing around 30,000 innocent iraq people in the last iraq war it will never end they bomb us we bomb them then vise versa we shouldnt be even interfering with other countrys problems why do the americans feel that its there need to walk onto someones elses land and take control of it the USA do my head in there complete hypocrites they oppose terrorism yet they go round bombing people now thats terrorism controling someone by fear


I dont think that it's a question of controlling people, it's a question of making sure that any threats on the west are kept under control. America and Britain have had nuclear weapons for years, but they are just a deterrent. If the lunatics in the east got hold of them, they would willingly use them against whoever they wanted, which makes them dangerous to the rest of the world. That, in my book, means we have every right to be there.

It is unfortunate that so many civilians have been killed, and you're right, we have no business interferring with their internal affairs, but as soon as they pose a threat to the rest of the world something has to be done.




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