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Armin van Buuren's downfall

I figured a bash Armin-thread was in order, just to even out the score. Since PvD and Tiesto have had their share for a while, the next one should be Armin, target of TA worship en masse as he is.

Personally I find it sad to see that Armin has ditched his experimentalism and knack for mixing genres, just cos all the muppets in #armind start bawling their eyes out the minute Armin plays something that isn't their usual boring piece of ASOT drivel like Burned With Desire. Thus, we go from edgy and punchy sets like these..

ASOT 82

1. Rui da Silva- Feel the love (Kismet)
2. Syntax- Pray (Junkie XL remix) (Illustrious)
3. Solid Globe- North Pole (Fundamental)
TUNE OF THE WEEK: 4. Thompson & Holden- Nothing (93 returning mix) (Loaded)
5. Beetseekers- Walk of Notes (JOOF)
6. Robert Lidstroem- Recitation (CDR)
7. POS- Amnesiac (Ajunabeats)
8. York- The Awakening (Hiver & Hammer remix) (Zeitgeist)
9. Solarstone- Solarcoaster (Midway remix) (Lost Language)
10. Orange- 7 (ID&T)

21.00- 22.00-> Armin van Buuren Non-stop in the mix
1. Armin van Buuren feat Ray Wilson- Yet Another remix (Attention Deficit remix 2) (Nebula/United/Armind)
2. Kiko- World Cup 2.0
3. Unmark- The Silent You (sirup)
4. ODD- Don't Look at me (Paul Roger's late night dub) (Sumsonic)
5. Rewinders- Pacific Dance (Yeti)
6. Peter Dafnous- From here to Eternity (CDR)
7. Push- Universal nation 2002 (Bonzai)
8. Stateform- Rio (white)
9. Vincent de Moor- Additional Works#3 (Combined Forces)
10. Chemical Brothers- Electronic Battle Weapon no. 6 (Virgin)

ASOT 73

20.00- 21.00-> The newest tunes selected
1. Andain- Summer's Calling (Airwave Club Mix)(Blackhole)
2. Conjure One feat. Sinead O Connor- Tears from the Moon (Hybrid remix) (Nettwork)
3. Carlo Resoort vs. 4 Strings- unknown title (Liquid)
TUNE OF THE WEEK: 4. Junkie XL- Beauty never Fades (Roadrunner)
5. Mesh- Purple Haze (Blackhole)
6. Oliver Lieb pres. Snakeman- Afrika (Yoshitoshi)
7. M.i.k.e. vs. John "OO" Fleming- Icecream (M.i.k.e. remix) (Bonzai)
8. D&A vs. A.P.- Pure NRG
9. Altitude- Tears in the Rain (Platipus)
10. Underworld- Dinosaur Adventures 3D (Sharpside remix)(JBO)

21.00- 22.00-> Armin van Buuren Non-stop in the mix
1. DJ Danjo & Rob Styles- Aragon (Intro mix) (silver premium cdr)
2. Funktion feat. Kelly- Seduction (Alternative Route)
3. Young Parisiens- U write the Rules (CDR)
4. GTR- Mistral (Original mix) (Five AM)
5. Sun Decade- I'm Alone (Mirco de Govia dub) (euphonic)
6. Visionaire- Accelerator (Visionaire hard edit) (FTM)
7. Solar Factor- No Return (Platipus)
8. Scanners- What God has Given You (debunk)
9. Driftwood- Freeloader (Green Martian remix) (Positiva/ Spinnin)
10. AvB feat. Ray Wilson- Yet Another Day (Hiver & Hammer Ground Control remix) (Armind/United)

Club Eau 26.10.02 http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ight=Armin+solo

...to boring prog drivel and edgeless dutch fluff trance like this:

20:00 - 21:00 The Newest Tunes Selected
1. Antiloop - Hello Strings (Silver Planet)
2. Aly & Fila - Eye Of Horus (Solid Globe Remix)(CDR)
3. Three Drives - Air Traffic (Bobina Remix)(Nebula)
4. TUNE OF THE WEEK: The Thrillseekers - New Life (Lange Remix) (Adjusted)
5. Ton TB - Dreammachine (Blackhole)
6. FUTURE FAVORITE: 8 Wonders - The Morning After (The Thrillseekers Remix)(Somatic Sense)
7. Ronski Speed - EOS (Euphonic)
8. Empyreal Sun - Twisted Reality (Re:Locate Remix)(ATCR)

21:00 - 22:00 Non-Stop In The Mix
1. Unknown Artist - Turn It Into Gold (Probspot Remix)(Deep)
2. Powerplant - Blame (Luke Chable Remix)
3. Remy & Roland Klinkenberg - Till Ya Drop (Electronic Elements)
4. Paul van Dyk - Buenaventura (UK Album version)(Positiva)
5. Sander van Doorn - Punk'd (Spinnin)
6. Scott Bond vs Solar Stone - Naked Angel (Son Of A Pitch Remix)(Made in England)
7. Tectonic Shift featuring Andre Visior - Break Of Dawn (Drizzly)
8. Aquasource - Waking Up The Sun (Kuffdam & Plant Remix)(JooF)
9. Arctic Quest - Offbeat (Armind)

Ocean Diva: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=176371

And don't get me started on his productions. Burned With Desire, Mushroom Therapy (AvB Mix) and From The Heart is pure stale garbage, lightyears away from stuff like Alibi - Eternity, Aria - Dido (AvB Mix) and Fuel To Fire - Fuel To Fire (Armin's Drumarama Dub).

(Yes I'm bored at work )

I'm with you on ALL points except that you call Prog. boring, How dare you!?

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Originally posted by T-1000 I'm with you on ALL points except that you call Prog. boring, How dare you!?

Not all prog is boring, just the majority of the prog that Armin plays Plus he played a lot better prog tunes earlier. Remy & Roland Klinkenberg - Till Ya Drop (Electronic Elements) and Sander van Doorn - Punk'd (Spinnin) are pretty damn good though.

Will you please don't use my name in that way...I don't like that

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Personally I find it sad to see that Armin has ditched his experimentalism and knack for mixing genres, just cos all the muppets in #armind start bawling their eyes out the minute Armin plays something that isn't their usual boring piece of ASOT drivel like Burned With Desire. Thus, we go from edgy and punchy sets like these..

Burned With Desire, Mushroom Therapy are top tunes... Dont think armin is on a downfall m8..

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Originally posted by T-1000 Currently Listening To: Mind - Afterlife

heh



As for Armin, I don't think it's quite fair to judge too much on what you hear on ASOT. The idea of ASOT is to play new (unreleased) stuff, which is what he does. If the tracks aren't what they used to be anymore, that's not really up to him then is it? He just plays what's new...
Not liking his own stuff (anymore) is up to you. Some people enjoy it, others don't...


Of course my opinion is biased as Armada has brainwashed me and I must step in once something "bad" has been said about Armada or Armin...

blah.

who cares.

he's been in massive decline for ages
his older ASOT sets were great
but he's never played like that in a club when I've seen him, just cheesy fucking andain/binary finary bootlegs
plays trance for retards

his recent ASOT sucked ass


wtf is up with this industry

his last great remix IMO was ayu-appears(avb remix)

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Originally posted by Robert Of course my opinion is biased as Armada has brainwashed me and I must step in once something "bad" has been said about Armada or Armin...

Yes, therefore your arguement is void

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Originally posted by Muppet Will you please don't use my name in that way...I don't like that

sorry bout that

Sorry, have to disagree. His recent 5 hour set her in SF was incredible and it was unique for him in at a US gig as he had no opener...he was on the decks when the room opened. He started with melodic prog (ie. His frist track - Deepsky - Talk Like a Stanger (Markus Shulz....remix) and worked it up to beautiful trance. Listen to ASOT 143, which is a couple hours of the set he played here that night (April 2).

It's beautiful!!!!!

Dave

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Originally posted by acar Burned With Desire.....top tune

Not by a long shot

I took time to dable in the past of trance and listened to aria-dido armins mix and Good Lord its fricking amazing

looking from past to now the only artists who have kept up or improved production qaulity are the almighty Solar Stone, Fire & Ice, and maybe Solid Globe...

Armin's prog-taste is very good, but trance... cheese
There still are some good trance tunes, but the majority is just boring.

And yes his old productions are sooo much better than his new ones.

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Originally posted by Electronicmaji I took time to dable in the past of trance and listened to aria-dido armins mix and Good Lord its fricking amazing looking from past to now the only artists who have kept up or improved production qaulity are the almighty Solar Stone, Fire & Ice, and maybe Solid Globe...

solid globe?


BAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

ive never liked armin always found bit boring he doesnt bring anything different to the decks that alot of other djs already do

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Sorry, have to disagree. His recent 5 hour set her in SF was incredible and it was unique for him in at a US gig as he had no opener...he was on the decks when the room opened. He started with melodic prog (ie. His frist track - Deepsky - Talk Like a Stanger (Markus Shulz....remix) and worked it up to beautiful trance. Listen to ASOT 143, which is a couple hours of the set he played here that night (April 2).

did armin manage to play 5 hours of fluffy trance, with some fluffy prog? Because thats what he did in nyc...And people fled out @ about 4:30. Like 2-3 hours into his set. Armin is good for about 2 hours, then gets boring.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 did armin manage to play 5 hours of fluffy trance, with some fluffy prog? Because thats what he did in nyc...And people fled out @ about 4:30. Like 2-3 hours into his set. Armin is good for about 2 hours, then gets boring.

err... i was there. it was a pretty sick party. everyone was feeling the music and if u weren't... then u were the minority

i started to notice ages ago when all his remixes started sounding the same in 2002. such a shame.

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err... i was there. it was a pretty sick party. everyone was feeling the music and if u weren't... then u were the minority

look @ the thread in nyta, and tell me who is the minority...
Did armin not play fluffy trance for 4 hours? His hardest banger mabe, tiesto - love comes again? i dont really hate any 1 track he played. He just plays the same style the whole time. It didnt amount to anything. He also played each track to long, felt about 7 mins a track, which imo was way to long to continue any energy. And when he mixed @ roxy, all he did was throw the kick down during the "chorus" for like a minute, then took the kick out. And he did that every mix. Like i said thats good for about 2 hours, after that it gets boring because he losese all the energy from the previous track.

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Originally posted by Az he's been in massive decline for ages his older ASOT sets were great but he's never played like that in a club when I've seen him, just cheesy fucking andain/binary finary bootlegs plays trance for retards

Agreed. He was so fluffy and McProggish when I saw him in New York last week that I had to leave.

Armin's downfall started in 2002 with all of those crappy remixes that sound the same.

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Originally posted by trancinchink err... i was there. it was a pretty sick party. everyone was feeling the music and if u weren't... then u were the minority

armin sucked. sean cusick owned him.

3 words:
fluffy buffy trance

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Agreed. He was so fluffy and McProggish when I saw him in New York last week that I had to leave.

i was soo bored i talked with indy for like 2 hours...(hehehe jk) indy rocks, but you all know me when im haveing a good time .

i think it is not only the djs fault..trance is missing something these days..i do not get the same feeling i got out of trance 2 or 3 years ago..it doesnt touch me in the same wayi used to feel like i am in another world when listenen to trance..now i just bop my head n move around but the rush i used to get out of it is gone..

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