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Posted by Tranceporter99 on Apr-19-2004 20:24:

33rpm to 45rpm an vice versa

How are you supposed to mix 33 rpm tracks to 45rpm tracks and vice versa, because i dont think my pitch fader [plus or minus 10] can handle it

also how many BPMs is a plus or minus 10 percent pitch control come out to be?

Posted by CosmoKid on Apr-19-2004 20:38:

Record Speed - RPM - has NOTHING to do with beatmatching.

You need o know how many BPMs a record is to know how much 10% will increase it.

140 bpm x 10% = 154 bpm

Posted by Nemesis44 on Apr-19-2004 23:13:

Yup, 45s are better sound quality than 33s.

Nem

Posted by T:REBEL on Apr-21-2004 16:45:

I used to have that same problem.

Until I found my first records that went together that were at 33 RPM and at 45 RPM.

Now, all the records I spin, only like 1/4 is 33RPM. The rest are 45s.

Posted by djthunderbird on Apr-21-2004 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by T:REBEL
I used to have that same problem.

Until I found my first records that went together that were at 33 RPM and at 45 RPM.

Now, all the records I spin, only like 1/4 is 33RPM. The rest are 45s.

you realize, of course, how stupid statement this is so you actually dont want to buy tunes that are 33rpm? You are missing like most of the tunes this way

Posted by T:REBEL on Apr-21-2004 17:59:

I know it sounds stupid but let me clarify.

I spin mostly electro/housey breaks now and the records that I buy always end up being 45 RPM.

I barely spin trance anymore.

Posted by djthunderbird on Apr-21-2004 18:48:

well genre isnt an issue here.. I think they make both speeds in all the genres.. I just dont think its very wise to have 45rpm as the main criteria when choosing records.. It would be much more efficent to learn how to mix with 33rpm..

Posted by T:REBEL on Apr-21-2004 20:26:

I'm just saying, LOL, that RPM isn't an issue for me. I don't mind if it comes either 33 or 45. Just that a lot of presses I buy end up being 45s and it's not my choice.

If you spin breakbeats, you find that a majority of breakbeats are 45s.

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-17-2004 14:04:

doesnt it just have to do with the space on the vinyl. like if there is 1 track on a side its 33, then 45 if there are 2?..

Posted by Liam on May-17-2004 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
doesnt it just have to do with the space on the vinyl. like if there is 1 track on a side its 33, then 45 if there are 2?..

Space can be a factor.... if they want to fit more than one track on a side (or one especially long track), than they'll have to be 33.

Posted by vhx1 on May-17-2004 20:01:

I don't think RPM would have any effect on sound quality. The song is just stretched out over a longer period of time.

Posted by jdat on May-17-2004 20:32:

quote:
Originally posted by vhx1
I don't think RPM would have any effect on sound quality. The song is just stretched out over a longer period of time.

think of it like having a higher bitrate for your mp3's ... the more the better.

and yes that does apply to analog.

If you're using a reel to reel recorder and you do a take at 10 fps and another at 40 fps .. the 40 fps one will be MUCH better.

Posted by Nemesis44 on May-18-2004 16:45:

quote:
Originally posted by vhx1
I don't think RPM would have any effect on sound quality. The song is just stretched out over a longer period of time.

45s are better sound quality than 33s. That's not speculation, that's fact.
The waveform is not as tight and more information can be passed in the same amount of time.
As you usually just get one song on a 45 the spacing between the grooves is wider and this means that the groove on the vinyl can wider and carry more info. 45s can also have a louder pressing for this reason.

The way vinyl works is actually quite physical. The right channel is on one side of the groove and the left is on the other. That's one of the joys of vinyl for me.

Cheers
Nem