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so how long you been doin this dj thing for?

hey folks. i been at this djin' caper for just comin up to a year now and i'm often bemused and curious at what level i've actually gotten myself to after this period of time. i guess im ok but when i go out, i can kinda see the division, or the difference between me and the "professional" dj (for one, they adopt this "beatmatching" style i've failed to achieve ).

so i guess what i wanna know is how long you guys/girls been djin' for? i mean since the very first time you had frequent goes at learning how to beatmix. and maybe as a sub-question, what level do you think you've reached (more in a personal reflection context).

sorry if this seems like im excluding non-djs but im sure those who dont mix are also keen to know how long our resident djs been goin at it? yes?

7 years ... and I'm still shit!

When I'm out n about or on the radio, I don't suck that badly, but bad enough (shutup perth guys!), but as soon as i try to record a mix, whammo, big time crapola.

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Originally posted by jizza hey folks. i been at this djin' caper for just comin up to a year now and i'm often bemused and curious at what level i've actually gotten myself to after this period of time. i guess im ok but when i go out, i can kinda see the division, or the difference between me and the "professional" dj (for one, they adopt this "beatmatching" style i've failed to achieve ).

How so?? Do you mean they beatmatch in a different way to you??? I would have thought there to be only 1 method

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so i guess what i wanna know is how long you guys/girls been djin' for? i mean since the very first time you had frequent goes at learning how to beatmix. and maybe as a sub-question, what level do you think you've reached (more in a personal reflection context).

well i got into Djing a bit after getting into trance, tbh i dunno what level i have reached. Sometimes it's a good day and the mixing is very good, sometimes it's ordinary stuff. But i think that "sometimes" is due to my equipment but until someone gets the very best equipment there is, they will never know how good or bad they are.

I mean you can't compare yourself to a person who uses a more advance turntable who does less work than the others. Put them all in the same category then you will see a better result.

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Originally posted by Psygnosis How so?? Do you mean they beatmatch in a different way to you??? I would have thought there to be only 1 method

errr it was a joke. it insinuates that i cant beatmatch, hence the joke.

good points bout the equipment but im talkin bout all things bein equal.. i know theres a latin term for this, i remember from first yr uni - law or something.

and plus psyg, you havent really stated how long? a ball-park figure perhaps?

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Originally posted by jizza errr it was a joke. it insinuates that i cant beatmatch, hence the joke. good points bout the equipment but im talkin bout all things bein equal.. i know theres a latin term for this, i remember from year 12 economics.

I lack sense of humour i guess hah

but how can something be equal if it's not equal in the first place. It's like exams, everyone is doing the same thing but someone can easily be disadvantaged and be worse than everyone when they could have had the potential to show their true abilities if it was more fair.

it's too early to be talking in riddles IMO

im sayin, lets just "pretend" everyone is on the same level playing field on everything bar skill/ability. lets ignore the the equipment for a sec.

EDIT: i've strayed from the original purpose of this thread a bit... so how long u been at it?

about 15 months since i first got some decks.

i'm ok, there's always room for improvement.

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Originally posted by Psygnosis How so?? Do you mean they beatmatch in a different way to you??? I would have thought there to be only 1 method

Theres actually a few 'methods' of beatmatching

You have headphone mixing vs monitor mixing or split cueing
as well as touching the platter vs only using the pitch to adjust speed

All seem like different methods of beatmatching to me anyway

i think its also a case of some people being more gifted and picking it up easier then others, like sports and activities.

also good equipment helps

1 year, 2 weeks

tho.. been into the music since i started counting..

7 years and to this day i still have never owned a pair of decks

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Originally posted by DaveBegic 7 years and to this day i still have never owned a pair of decks

i can see how thats possible. its like ridiing a bike eh?

just a tad over a year for me i think?
what level? *shrug* i can beatmatch hehe. i ride the pitch?
um. i cant really compare my skills to be honest as i dont go out much..... however, i assume its shit loads easier to mix at a club with the amount of bass, compared to how analytical recording on a computer is. oh, i only recently picked up harmonic mixing just a few months ago. applying the principle is simple given you have some music theory knowledge, its just keying your records that's a bitch. i dont trust those programs either, mixmeister? rapid evolution? they're bout 70% right, so i key them myself. but i'm lazy. eh. excuse my rambling. i'm brain dead from an assessment centre interview

throw us a mix jizza! i'll judge for ya

James and I have owned our decks for about 1 and a half years. In this time we have only had our decks set up properly for about 1 year.
We can both beat match fine so it's just a matter of practising and getting the timing anf track selection down pat.

Ive been playing for a little over three years, and as already stated here, not everyone can mix, its easy to know how, but much harder to put into practice to a level that is acceptable for the paying public. Not everyone has the ear for it. I was very lucky that i picked it up quickly, and was even more lucky to play in our biggest club (Heaven) for my first gig out after only 3 months.

But always improving and learning new tricks.

2 and half years ive had my decks.

A total of 3 months solid practice over that time i would imagine.

I never have time.

about, 1 year 4 months.

level? i would say kung fu master, though i am striving to reach the ranks of pirate, ninja and then finally samurai.

i can beat match, but like everyone there are times when i fuck it up, not as often and as bad as 1 year ago though. Ive skipped over harmonic mixing, because i think writing down keys on records is akin to bpm to counters, id like to think most of my mixes are in key, but they probably arnt. i tend to focus on playing what i think will work well rather than what the laws of music tell me will work (im raging against the machine). Maybe giving in and writing down keys and djing by numbers is what i need to do to reach the level of pirate? But yeah, im not keen on that (because of the principle, not the work involved in doing it).

Im sure some of you have heard my mixes, so you can comment on how good or awful you think I am!

I think i'm up to 3 or 4 years now... can't remember exactly.... been buying records all my life though... my family didn't get a cd player until i was 13 so vinyl was a popular option! ;-) I still think i'm pretty shit but the last few months in Australia and the last month in german have really helped a lot. I don't have TV, my girlfriend is in Australia and I've got an amazing mixer so i've been playing 2-6 hours per day every day... It's really been helping with a lot of problems i had with djing and had been ignoring. I think it's easier to play/learn (especially) on good equipment but i good dj can play well on almost anything. I've seen one of my friends (Nikita a melb prog dj) play some amazing sets on my P.O.S Gemini PS-626 mixer... and grand master flash can play/scratch ok on the Technic SL303 and i used to own those decks, they are REALLY crap...

2.5 years

shit.. time flies

Been mixing for 2 years in August. I started with pretty good equipment (technics 1200 MK2s and Roland dj-2000 4 channel mixer)so i had motivation to get better. I can definatly see that my mixes have been getting alot smoother than they used to be level wise and im getting the beats alot faster now aswell. Maybe the more deaf i become the better i can hear the beats.

Hopefully have a set of mine on Dj Wardens sounds of downunder in a couple of weeks so stay tuned.

got my decks in july 2002 however i just stuffed around till towards the end of the year then started to look into it more seriously.

After going to a few Raves in 1989 i was hooked and got me decks in Summer of 1990, along time ago in a galaxy far far away................Best investment i ever made, heaps of good memories, parties and all that

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Originally posted by venomdx about 15 months since i first got some decks. i'm ok, there's always room for improvement.

you mix pretty well for 15 months...

I would just alter your track selection... but that will happen with time, and you establish your own style. Keep playing, you have talent.

First jumped on some decks when i was 15... got sick of playing other peoples music... started producing my own. ( Im 24 btw )

around 4-5 years

i still enjoy every single gig as if its my very first one.

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Originally posted by escee Ive skipped over harmonic mixing, because i think writing down keys on records is akin to bpm to counters, id like to think most of my mixes are in key, but they probably arnt. i tend to focus on playing what i think will work well rather than what the laws of music tell me will work (im raging against the machine). Maybe giving in and writing down keys and djing by numbers is what i need to do to reach the level of pirate? But yeah, im not keen on that (because of the principle, not the work involved in doing it).

i don't think writing the bpm and key of a tune is necessarily a bad thing, nor cheating, as long as you understand why it works - instead of following a circle of fifths [diagram which shows which keys go with which] http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/overview/easymix.mv - more so especially, if you manually key your own records.

even if two tunes are "in key", there are still other elements in the tune that won't make them fit i.e. percussion - good tracklisting skills, reading crowd comes to play. with harmonic mixing, you just cut your selection down a great deal.

harmonic mixing really gives you the control to fuck with ppl's feelings. if you want to bring it up a notch/uplifting vibe, you can. bring it down, you can. make it sad, you can. keep a steady flow before a peak, you can. its something that will assist in set structure that will take listeners on a more fulfilling ride, touching at least the landscape of all emotions.

one more thing. remember, very few ppl are pitch/tone perfect. even armin keys his own records no? learning to mix harmonically though improves that. transistions i made that sounded good half a year ago, jus sound plain ugly to me now - this distinguished, without me knowing what keys they're in. exposure is good.

excuse the jagged post once again.

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