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War on Iraq IQ test

Take the War on Iraq IQ Test
- Do you know enough to justify going to war with Iraq?


1. Q: What percentage of the world's population does the US have?
A: 6%

2. Q: What percentage of the world's wealth does the U.S. have?
A: 50%

3. Q: Which country has the largest oil reserves?
A: Saudi Arabia

4. Q: Which country has the second largest oil reserves?
A: Iraq

5. Q: How much is spent on military budgets a year worldwide?
A: $900+ billion

6. Q: How much of this is spent by the U.S.?
A:50%

7. Q: What percent of US military spending would ensure the essentials of life to everyone in the world, according the UN?
A: 10% (that's about$40 billion, the amount of funding initially requested to fund the US retaliatory attack on Afghanistan).

8. Q: How many people have died in wars since World War II?
A: 86 million

9. Q: How long has Iraq had chemical and biological weapons?
A: Since the early 1980's.

10. Q: Did Iraq develop these chemical & biological weapons on their own?
A: No, the materials and technology were supplied by the US government, along with Britain and private corporations.

11. Q: Did the US government condemn the Iraqi use of gas warfare against Iran?
A: No

12. Q: How many people did Saddam Hussein kill using gas in the Kurdish town of Halabja in 1988?
A: 5,000

13. Q: How many western countries condemned this action at the time?
A:0

14. Q: How many gallons of agent Orange did America use in Vietnam?
A: 17million.

15. Q: Are there any proven links between Iraq and September 11th terrorist attack?
A: No

16. Q: What is the estimated number of civilian casualties in the Gulf War?
A: 35,000

17. Q: How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the western forces during the Gulf War ?
A: 0

18. Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by U.S. tanks with ploughs mounted on the front?
A: 6,000

19. Q: How many tons of depleted uranium were left in Iraq and Kuwait after the Gulf War?
A: 40 tons

20. Q: What according to the UN was the increase in cancer rates in Iraq between 1991 and 1994?
A: 700%

21. Q: How much of Iraq's military capacity did America claim it had destroyed in 1991?
A: 80%

22. Q: Is there any proof that Iraq plans to use its weapons for anything other than deterrence and self defence?
A: No

23. Q: Does Iraq present more of a threat to world peace now than 10 years ago?
A: No

24. Q: How many civilian deaths has the Pentagon predicted in the event of an attack on Iraq in 2002/3?
A: 10,000

25. Q: What percentage of these will be children?
A: Over 50%

26. Q: How many years has the U.S. engaged in air strikes on Iraq?
A: 11 years

27. Q: Was the U.S and the UK at war with Iraq between December 1998 and September 1999?
A: No

28. Q: How many pounds of explosives were dropped on Iraq between December 1998 and September 1999?
A: 20 million

29. Q: How many years ago was UN Resolution 661 introduced, imposing strict sanctions on Iraq's imports and exports?
A: 12 years

30. Q: What was the child death rate in Iraq in 1989 (per 1,000 births)?
A: 38

31. Q: What was the estimated child death rate in Iraqin 1999 (per 1,000 births)?
A: 131 (that's an increase of 345%)

32. Q: How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a result of UN sanctions?
A: 1.5 million

33. Q: How many Iraqi children are estimated to have died due to sanctions since 1997?
A: 750,000

34. Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq?
A: No

35. Q: How many inspections were there in November and December 1998?
A: 300

36. Q: How many of these inspections had problems?
A: 5

37. Q: Were the weapons inspectors allowed entry to the Ba'ath Party HQ?
A: Yes

38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, Iraq had in fact, been disarmed to a level unprecedented in modern history.
A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief.

39. Q: In 1998 how much of Iraq's post 1991 capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction did the UN weapons inspectors claim to have discovered and dismantled?
A: 90%

40. Q: Is Iraq willing to allow the weapons inspectors back in?
A: Yes

41. Q: How many UN resolutions did Israel violate by 1992?
A: Over 65

42. Q: How many UN resolutions on Israel did America veto between 1972 and 1990?
A: 30+

43. Q: How much does the U.S. fund Israel a year?
A: $5 billion

44. Q: How many countries are known to have nuclear weapons?
A: 8

45. Q: How many nuclear warheads has Iraq got?
A: 0

46. Q: How many nuclear warheads has US got?
A: over 10,000

47. Q: Which is the only country to use nuclear weapons?
A: the US

48. Q: How many nuclear warheads does Israel have?
A: Over 400

49. Q: Has Israel every allowed UN weapons inspections?
A: No

50. Q: What percentage of the Palestinian territories is controlled by Israeli settlements?
A: 42%

51. Q: Is Israel illegally occupying Palestinian land?
A: Yes

52. Q: Which country do you think poses the greatest threat to global peace: Iraq or the U.S.?
A: ????

53. Q: Who said, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter"?
A: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

massive list you've got there.. clearly we need to pull out of iraq

sufee_b, great post! When you strip away all the propaganda and rhetoric, and look at the facts you get a clear picture of what's going on.

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Originally posted by igottaknow sufee_b, great post! When you strip away all the propaganda and rhetoric, and look at the facts you get a clear picture of what's going on.

You call those facts??? FACTS?

If those are facts where are there sources??

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Originally posted by igottaknow sufee_b, great post! When you strip away all the propaganda and rhetoric, and look at the facts you get a clear picture of what's going on.

...and none of that was propaganda?

Man, I wish I lived in your world.

How many muslims have died at the hands of other muslims in the name of Islam?
A: Untold millions

Did the world come up with their own conclusions that Saddam had WMD's?
A: yes

Were there no limits to Saddams fostering of violence and Islamic hate agenda throughout that region?
A: no

Did France, as early as the 90's, sponsor Saddams efforts to make a nuclear bomb?
A: Yes

How many people have died in terrorist attacks in the name of Allah?
A: F**kin A

How many of surfer_b's questions were propagandist rhetoric?
A: half

Could I go on?
A: yes

Will you flame me?

^--- Sources

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Originally posted by Q5echo ...and none of that was propaganda? Man, I wish I lived in your world. How many muslims have died at the hands of other muslims in the name of Islam? A: Untold millions Did the world come up with their own conclusions that Saddam had WMD's? A: yes Were there no limits to Saddams fostering of violence and Islamic hate agenda throughout that region? A: no Did France, as early as the 90's, sponsor Saddams efforts to make a nuclear bomb? A: Yes How many people have died in terrorist attacks in the name of Allah? A: F**kin A How many of surfer_b's questions were propagandist rhetoric? A: half Could I go on? A: yes Will you flame me?

!!!!!!
How many of surfer_b's questions were propagandist rhetoric?
A: ALL...
I want source...

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Originally posted by igottaknow ^--- Sources

This is old news all over the place. details are coroberated and abundant.

"According to Dr. Khidir Hamza, who ran Saddam's nuclear bombmaking program in the early 1990s, Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor was built by the French. When the Israelis determined that the reactor's real purpose was to make nuclear weapons, they destroyed it in a 1981 bombing raid."

"From the moment Osirak was hit we knew we had to try another method to get the bomb," Dr. Hamza told the Washington Times in September 2002.

The year before, Dr. Hamza confirmed that the Osirak reactor was never intended to be anything but a nuclear bombmaking plant.

"I went to France in 1974 to buy a reactor, as a starting point, for a plutonium bomb," Hamza told the Carneigie Endowment in November 2000. "It was a long-range project. The reactor would be inspected by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and the French would be there."

And even after Osirak was taken out, French assistance was critical to Baghdad's continuing plan to get nuclear weapons.

"Just before the Gulf War, the crash program was ongoing to make one bomb from the French fuel," Hamza told the Carniegie group.

"People were putting stock into that one bomb," he said. "They were afraid of even testing the bomb, because Iraq testing that one bomb would be like telling the world that we used the French fuel."

Dr. Hamza said that in 1990 Saddam ordered him to make a single nuclear device using materials obtained from Paris.

"We made a device, actually, minus the core," he told PBS's "Frontline" in October 2001. "And we sat down and did calculations. ... We would have had a small - probably two- to four-kiloton - explosion at the time. ... But the idea was [that Saddam] wanted it on a missile, and he was mad at us for not making it small enough."

"Undoubtedly, one of the things French diplomats now fear most is that a U.S. invasion of Iraq is likely to confirm Dr. Hamza's account, providing undisputable evidence that Baghdad relied on French assistance to make Iraq's most deadly weapon of mass destruction."

Oh goody, it's more anti-American propaganda with a teensy bit of anti-Israel propaganda tossed in at the end for good measure!

This is a perfect example of what we call confirmation bias - coming out with only the facts that support your position and ignoring all the ones that don't. Except in this case it's even better, because the facts are all 100% unsourced and unsubstantiated! Sufee, I noticed this in the Toronto forum too, you're really really good at making up statistics!

Although it seems many people would be happy to refer to this as "stripping away" the propaganda, as opposed to creating it. Ah well, perhaps I'll debunk this one later, although sufee doesn't take too well to that from what I remember.

Re: War on Iraq IQ test

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Originally posted by sufee_b

Boy ... that's an impressive amount of rhetoric and unsubstantiated statements with complete disregard for context. Perhaps you should work for the bush administration?

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Originally posted by igottaknow ^--- Sources

Clinton is on the record a few times saying they had WMD. There never was a question about that with anyone really. The UN, French Intelligence, British, German, Russian, Gore, Clinton, everyone agreed they were there.

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Originally posted by Q5echo Clinton is on the record a few times saying they had WMD. There never was a question about that with anyone really. The UN, French Intelligence, British, German, Russian, Gore, Clinton, everyone agreed they were there.

Everyone once believed (incorrectly) the world was flat. What's you're point? The IQ test doesn't call into question whether anyone "believed" that there were WMDs in Iraq. Sounds like you failed the test.

To the best of my recollection the US has never gone to war with a country because they had a WMD program or in the future that they might start one, until Iraq. Even after Iraq the US has made it clear they don't intend on declaring war on countries involved in nuclear piliferation or have well documented WMD programs such as N. Korea and Iran.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Sufee, I noticed this in the Toronto forum too, you're really really good at making up statistics!

Here's another statistic for you: 63.4% of all statistics are made on the spot.

What a surprise...my test worked!! All pro-Israel and pro-zionless....sorry zionist wanks...disagreed...probably didnt even read the whole thing...and the rest agreed

FYI...its all common knowledge...they are facts...if any sensible user wishes to get the source...i will be happy to give it to them...just PM me...

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Originally posted by Q5echo ...and none of that was propaganda? Man, I wish I lived in your world. How many muslims have died at the hands of other muslims in the name of Islam? A: Untold millions Did the world come up with their own conclusions that Saddam had WMD's? A: yes Were there no limits to Saddams fostering of violence and Islamic hate agenda throughout that region? A: no Did France, as early as the 90's, sponsor Saddams efforts to make a nuclear bomb? A: Yes How many people have died in terrorist attacks in the name of Allah? A: F**kin A How many of surfer_b's questions were propagandist rhetoric? A: half Could I go on? A: yes Will you flame me?

Miilons for the first one?? many thousands maybe...but many more have died by the hands Christians and Jews, all your Q's and A's are open ended and opinionative except for the France one...please try again.

Could i go on....Yes

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Originally posted by sufee_b What a surprise...my test worked!! All pro-Israel and pro-zionless....sorry zionist wanks...disagreed...probably didnt even read the whole thing...and the rest agreed FYI...its all common knowledge...they are facts...if any sensible user wishes to get the source...i will be happy to give it to them...just PM me...

Sounds like you're making quite a hasty generalization here since "the rest" only constitutes one or two people.

Why should we have to PM you? Post your sources, so it's up for public debate, otherwise don't post at all because it's nothing more than propaganda and rhetoric. These things are only "common knowledge" among people who happen to share your point of view and accept your numbers without proof.

Edit: It shouldn't surprise you that the "Zionists" disagree with you because half of your post is anti-Israel rhetoric that has nothing whatsoever to do with Iraq in the first place. Why post it?

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Originally posted by sufee_b Miilons for the first one?? many thousands maybe...but many more have died by the hands Christians and Jews, all your Q's and A's are open ended and opinionative except for the France one...please try again. Could i go on....Yes

Millions yes. Algeria, Egypt, Lebanon, Saddam, Africa, Pakistan, Afganistan. This is all recent history. C'mon open tour eyes, you can do better than that!

Islam is in a sorry state. Fuck the jihad!

Ican coroberate every one of my statements as could others on this board.

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Originally posted by DigiNut your post is anti-Israel rhetoric that has nothing whatsoever to do with Iraq in the first place. Why post it?

Since the primary reason to go to war was based on WMDs and Iraq's violations of UN resolutions, why wouldn't the same behavior exhibited by the Israel be relevent?

"your post is anti-Israel rhetoric that has nothing whatsoever to do with Iraq in the first place. Why post it? " by Diginuts

Is pro-truth anti-Israeli? No, there are many Israelis (ex. Jews for Justice) that share the same view and are Israeli.

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Originally posted by igottaknow Since the primary reason to go to war was based on WMDs and Iraq's violations of UN resolutions, why wouldn't the same behavior exhibited by the Israeli be relevent?

I can't even say whether or not it's relevant because the statements are completely jaded and uncorroborated. One could theoretically create any artificial relevance they choose if one is given the option of pulling facts and figures out of one's ass.

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Originally posted by sufee_b What a surprise...my test worked!! All pro-Israel and pro-zionless....sorry zionist wanks...disagreed...probably didnt even read the whole thing...and the rest agreed FYI...its all common knowledge...they are facts...if any sensible user wishes to get the source...i will be happy to give it to them...just PM me...

Nothing but ad-hominems and appeals to unknown authorities, congratulations.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I can't even say whether or not it's relevant because the statements are completely jaded and uncorroborated. One could theoretically create any artificial relevance they choose if one is given the option of pulling facts and figures out of one's ass.

So there is no relevance of two countries in the same region who have secretly persued WMD programs and violated UN resolutions?

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Originally posted by igottaknow So there is no relevance of two countries in the same region who have secretly persued WMD programs and violated UN resolutions?

your barking up the tree of an inconsistant analogy.

Here's why:

Israel has never (as in not once, never, nil, zero, nada) been condemned by the UN for WMD.

Anyone who knows the often the UN condemns Israel should be awe struck by this.

Second, Israel doesn't have a WMD program

Third, Israel has never been sanctioned or regulations/restriction imposed because of its WMD policy.

Fouth, Israel has never been aggressive to its neighbors and does not pose a threat to the region (so long as no one tries to destory it).

If Israel was condemned the the UN for WMD, did start a war numerous times, and had been sanctioned afterwords to no effect, then your anaology would be compatiable.

Afterall, the same points this anti-zoinist raised regarding Israel's WMD endevaours could just have easily been "facts" for Iran, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, or Sudan. Nope, the author just to discriminate soley against Israel in this cause (clearly antisemtic ).


So to address your statement again "So there is no relevance of two countries in the same region who have secretly persued WMD programs and violated UN resolutions?" No! There are MUCH MORE than two countries in the region. So why pick and say there is relevance with only one?

Re: War on Iraq IQ test

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Originally posted by sufee_b Take the War on Iraq IQ Test - Do you know enough to justify going to war with Iraq? 7. Q: What percent of US military spending would ensure the essentials of life to everyone in the world, according the UN? A: 10% (that's about$40 billion, the amount of funding initially requested to fund the US retaliatory attack on Afghanistan).

40 Billion na d all the world's problems are solved.... right...

We can't even rebuild Iraq for 40 billion..

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10. Q: Did Iraq develop these chemical & biological weapons on their own? A: No, the materials and technology were supplied by the US government, along with Britain and private corporations.

Gee, awfully convenient to forget Iraq's #1 Chem/bio supplier, Germany. And Iraq's #1 nuclear supplier France, and Iraq's #1 delivery vehicle (for WMD) supplier, Russia...

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13. Q: How many western countries condemned this action at the time? A:0

I guess the "Prevention of Genocide Act of 1988" that was unanimously passed when we found out about Halabja doesn't count...

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16. Q: What is the estimated number of civilian casualties in the Gulf War? A: 35,000

The first Gulf War?

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17. Q: How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the western forces during the Gulf War ? A: 0

Wrong.

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19. Q: How many tons of depleted uranium were left in Iraq and Kuwait after the Gulf War? A: 40 tons 20. Q: What according to the UN was the increase in cancer rates in Iraq between 1991 and 1994? A: 700%

Great, only WMD [oops EDIT: DU] can't be shown to cause increased cancer rates. In fact, the most likely reason why Iraqis had increased cancer rates are from Saddam using his chem weapons in the Shiite areas of Iraq...

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22. Q: Is there any proof that Iraq plans to use its weapons for anything other than deterrence and self defence? A: No

You mean besides the two prior wars of aggression?

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23. Q: Does Iraq present more of a threat to world peace now than 10 years ago? A: No

No kidding, we already removed Saddam...

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24. Q: How many civilian deaths has the Pentagon predicted in the event of an attack on Iraq in 2002/3? A: 10,000

Yep, and they were right on the $...

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29. Q: How many years ago was UN Resolution 661 introduced, imposing strict sanctions on Iraq's imports and exports? A: 12 years 30. Q: What was the child death rate in Iraq in 1989 (per 1,000 births)? A: 38 31. Q: What was the estimated child death rate in Iraqin 1999 (per 1,000 births)? A: 131 (that's an increase of 345%) 32. Q: How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a result of UN sanctions? A: 1.5 million 33. Q: How many Iraqi children are estimated to have died due to sanctions since 1997? A: 750,000

Yeah, it's criminal that UN oficials, as well as several European officials greased their palms with oil-for-food money. Every single death rests on their shoulders if these allegations are true.

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34. Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq? A: No

Wrong again. 1997/1998

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41. Q: How many UN resolutions did Israel violate by 1992? A: Over 65

Better question: How many of those resolutions are actual binding on Israel?

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Originally posted by Yoepus your barking up the tree of an inconsistant analogy. Here's why: Israel has never (as in not once, never, nil, zero, nada) been condemned by the UN for WMD. Anyone who knows the often the UN condemns Israel should be awe struck by this.

You might be right... they may have never been condmened for WMD, i'll tolerate that..theyve just been condemned for dozens of other things.

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