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Pioneer CDJ1000MK2 vs. Technics SL-DZ1200

http://www.djmart.com/picdditu.html

or

http://www.djmart.com/technics1.html

Pros/Cons?

Which is better?

Pioneers, end of story.

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Originally posted by Vlad Pioneers, end of story.

Any particular reason?

The major reason is because of the pitch increment. I think the Pioneers go up .2 and the Techs go up .5

are you sure you can't fix that? i'm almost positive if u make hte pitch slider only do +6/-6 you get more precise

Not if it's a digital pitch adjust.

As an owner of 2 Pioneer CDJ1000MKII decks, I wanna let all you guys know that the pitch increments on them are 0.5

EDIT:

Sorry guys, I said some wrong information above, but here are the correct measurements:

quote:

For CDJ1000MK2s: +/- 6% == 0.02 increment +/- 10% == 0.05 increment +/- 16% == 0.05 increment +/- 100% == 0.5 increment

Quoted from brian.

The Pioneer adjusts in smaller increments if you set the range to +/- 6%, and 10%. I quote from their website:

quote:

A new 100mm linear high precision slider connected to a 0.02% (at +/- 6% and +/- 10%) adjustment indication on the display panel.

Everyone else is speculating about the Technics deck. Wait for them to hit the stores or for some official reviews to hit the press/web.

This is a great forum, but some of you guys propagate loads of misinformation.

I said... "I think"...

Its what I heard.

I think u guys mean 0.05% and not 0.5%, cuz even my Pioneer CMX-3000s can go as low as 0.05%.

I know a guy who dj'd at the launch party here in britain for the technics and a couple of the dj's complained about them skiping, but as he said; you can rest assure that technics will never release anything that is inferior to another product.

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Originally posted by DJ FireWire As an owner of 2 Pioneer CDJ1000MKII decks, I wanna let all you guys know that the pitch increments on them are 0.5

Yours must be beyond fux0red because mine can go in increments of .02.

For CDJ1000MK2s:
+/- 6% == 0.02 increment
+/- 10% == 0.05 increment
+/- 16% == 0.05 increment
+/- 100% == 0.5 increment

how can anyone judge if they havent used both?

i think its fair to say that Pioneer are going to be hard to beat but until any of you have actually tried them instead of reading specs and commenting from that, then hold on to your opinions..

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Originally posted by brian Yours must be beyond fux0red because mine can go in increments of .02. For CDJ1000MK2s: +/- 6% == 0.02 increment +/- 10% == 0.05 increment +/- 16% == 0.05 increment +/- 100% == 0.5 increment

Ya, you're right. Sorry, I am not sure why I said something else before. I edited my post as well.

ok, lets stop shooting opinions areound. none of us has used the techs, but we can still speculate.

i heard the few people that have tried the Technics said that they preferred the feel of the jogwheel on the Pioneer, because the Technics is a spinning one. some people prefer it to be spinning, but turntablists said they would rather have a stattic jogwheel because there is no counterforce. and if anyone is to be payed attention to in the matter of platters and jogwheels, i'd say it'd be turntablists.

i understand the Technics can also play mp3's, and other forms of media the Pioneer cannot. this is a plus for the Techs.

what i have not seen about the Technics decks is the extra featutrs, such as looping, reverse and such. i am sure the Pio can do looping in a bunch of ways, has a beat cutter than can be worked as a live sampler, saves your cue points in memory sticks, etc.

all in all, i think Pioneer will come out on top, with Techs close begind, but just not up to it yet. the next generation of Technics Digital CD Turntables will be the true contender.

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Originally posted by Inertia what i have not seen about the Technics decks is the extra featutrs, such as looping, reverse and such. i am sure the Pio can do looping in a bunch of ways, has a beat cutter than can be worked as a live sampler, saves your cue points in memory sticks, etc.

Indeed. The Pioneers can also do reverse -- at least the CDJ1000MK2's can. Not sure about the other models.

The CDJ800 has reverse also... it's a button instead of a paddle switch on the CDJ1000. I prefer the switch...

the 800s/1000s/1000Mk2's can all do reverse. and all the damn techniques you can employ to scratch, loop, beat juggle, the hot cue, its amazing. just go to a James Zabiela set and what him while he goes nuts and starts scratching. i though he was gonna break the thing.

not that most of us will use all the features, but when competing, theyre all plus for the Pio.

Reportedly the Technics does not have a wave table on their LCD. If true, that simple fact alone makes the Pioneers better than the Technics.

Important features I look for in my CD players:
* Pitch increment .05 & .02
* Wave table so I can watch the peaks and valleys of the track
* Hot cues - In case you wanna do some tricks
* Master tempo

The Techs do not have a wave data display which sucks, but other than that they are pretty solid. I got to try them out at this years NAMM show, and I was very impressed....but I would still go with the Pioneer's because they are the standard at most clubs.

D�mo vid�o SL-DZ1200



Amazing!!!!

On another forum that I'm on, dj-AL posted some sine wave audio tests on both the sl-dz1200 and the denon s-5000.

http://www.futureproducers.com/foru.../threadid/69101

After you listen to the scratch test, remember that digital music is made from many different tones and samples. What you should look for is artifacts while he scratches. Then compare the sl-dz1200 to the denon s-5000 than compare to actual vinyl.

i'd say go for the pioneers, since they've proven themselves (� argument of all the technics lovers when asked which turntable to buy)

Wildfir3, that was funny as hell...

not meant to be funny, just makin' my point

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