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Posted by DannyO on Apr-25-2004 06:27:

I found whats missing from Trance

I was just thinking, I been looking into a bunch of threads and there was alot of bashing going on about producers not producing tracks like they used to, I've come to the conclusion its 1 of 2 things:

1)its missing that surtain something that sends a screaming shiver down your back.

2)we are just getting older and don't want the music to change into where its going.

just a thought, anybody else got ideas as to why music doesn't "seem" as good as it was 5-6 years ago?


Posted by Radagast on Apr-25-2004 06:48:

Trance just doesn't seem as good as it was 10+ years ago.


Posted by DannyO on Apr-25-2004 06:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Trance just doesn't seem as good as it was 10+ years ago.


I didn't realize trance was around back then, I thought it started coming around in 95-96, which I guess is close to 10, but oh well, anybody got any interesting info about how trance came about?


Posted by mndeg on Apr-25-2004 06:54:

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Posted by christofa on Apr-25-2004 07:09:

Re: I found whats missing from Trance

quote:
Originally posted by Prodigy Child
2)we are just getting older and don't want the music to change into where its going.


agreed


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Apr-25-2004 07:12:

It's basically missing the whole reason it was created - to be unique and innovative (that and something to twack out to on hallucinogens and other narcotics ).

Food for the mind, body, and spirit, everything is image these days.


Posted by razzi on Apr-25-2004 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
It's basically missing the whole reason it was created - to be unique and innovative


damn true. trance is becoming really commercialized.. especially with the 'techno djs like dj sammy'.. alot more people are getting into it and in our eyes seem like posers, but sometimes we wish it was just the few who first were into it, none of this commercialized crap.


Posted by DannyO on Apr-25-2004 07:18:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
everything is image these days.


So true, and I hate it, one of the things that got me into Trance was, it had no image, there was no bullshit behind it, it was JUST ABOUT THE MUSIC, but it seems that is al changing now, makes me wonder, how long I will be with trance.


Posted by $tY!inN><tC on Apr-25-2004 07:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Trance just doesn't seem as good as it was 10+ years ago.


Uhhh... you mean 4 years ago, how was it better 10 years ago?


Posted by XeQtOr on Apr-25-2004 07:42:

Stop listening to trance and start listening to prog.. Prog is the style of the future and it's really big at the moment with lots of new producers...


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Apr-25-2004 07:47:

quote:
Originally posted by XeQtOr
Stop listening to trance and start listening to prog.. Prog is the style of the future and it's really big at the moment with lots of new producers...

Trance heads converting to prog say that now...

Old skool prog heads are looking at it as the downfall of prog...

heh


Posted by Tranc3 on Apr-25-2004 07:55:

If you're looking for that really old-school trance sound, there's a mix in the amateur DJ section with tracks from early to mid 90s, it kicks ass.

As for prog, I find it a rather unimaginative name, and not very specific either. I mean in the 1940s people started saying progressive jazz as a means to show that their style was moving somwhere else, then later on progressive rock came around, same deal, etc...

And then we decide to name an entire genre after a word that's been used as a modifier....strange.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Apr-25-2004 08:01:

Actually now that I think about it...people are just mislabeling the "trance" genre. I know this because I was guilty of it too.

Seems that "trance" can only be condsidered trance if it has this "hands in the air/anthem/drum roll" feeling, when actually it's "Epic Trance". The "Progressive Trance" of today's popular producers is really what TRANCE was back in the day...

IMO...


Posted by allianze on Apr-25-2004 08:41:

In my opinion, commercialization in itself is not a good argument against an artist's works. Art should be judged for what it is, not the circumstances of its creation, whether someone else than the superstar dj produced it, and so on. The music is the essential.

Having said that, I have listened to quite a lot of trance and progressive house the last months (I am normally, believe it or not, a classical music head :P) and well, I also feel that some of the older releases from say 95 or 96 outshine many of today's productions. But still, there is a lot of good stuff today. Producers such as Gabriel & Dresden, Solarstone, Airwave, Markus Schulz and others are coming with things I really find good. Has the scene lost its touch with its roots? Maybe, but there still are a lot of good underground artists out there.


Posted by romain_2k2c on Apr-25-2004 08:47:

Some people tend to grow musically speaking, some not, like some people tend to become mature in some fields of real life (socializing, etc.)... Music was different in 1999, life was different. Everybody was dancing on Gouryella, Britney Spears and the gang... it was cheese, and that was it... Nowadays, I'm part of these people which just can't dance on this kind of music, but prefer stuff such as Dresden & Schultz, or even good old music, which is a music which will never turn outdated because of its nature...

it's like trend... trends change, people change, there is no sense turning back: we've got to live our life based on our feelings and not about the ways we used to feel some years ago. It's the same question if you ask yourself: will I call back my ex-gf ? No way !


Posted by noikeee on Apr-25-2004 10:44:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Trance heads converting to prog say that now...

Old skool prog heads are looking at it as the downfall of prog...

heh


haha that's so true

and the sad thing is that they're right, prog seems to be getting pretty worse lately


Posted by nettwerk on Apr-25-2004 11:03:

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Posted by AndskiSpeed on Apr-25-2004 15:23:

god i swear if someone puts another onion in food i'm gonna kill someone.. since when does a spicey meat quiche need onions.. ffs


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-25-2004 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by XeQtOr
Stop listening to trance and start listening to prog.. Prog is the style of the future and it's really big at the moment with lots of new producers...


Posted by Radagast on Apr-25-2004 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by $tY!inN>
Uhhh... you mean 4 years ago


I mean what I say.


Posted by mndeg on Apr-25-2004 17:04:

blah blah blah blah blah blah


Posted by TOR on Apr-25-2004 17:14:

quote:
Originally posted by allianze
I also feel that some of the older releases from say 95 or 96 outshine many of today's productions.


i disagree. the productions are much deeper, cleaner and more intelligent nowadays.. so many elements and so well balanced.

check out some Outback material and you'll know what i mean.

trance is always getting better and better.


Posted by trancintaiwan on Apr-25-2004 17:29:

IMO STFU!


Posted by Psy-T on Apr-25-2004 18:29:

prodigy child, the word is certain, not surtain.
and my opinion about the deal is that it has changed with the time, dont think it improved or got worse, just changed.
and change is good

oh, and about prog,,, i believe the best tunes came out between '01 and early '03.

dont really like hearing ppl ranting bout prog (or trance for that matter) dying,, coz it cant die, it just changes,
so what if its not the same thing as it was in the past...

if you got a problem with todays trance (or any other genre),, go and produce something you like better by yourself.


Posted by DannyO on Apr-25-2004 18:38:

hey Psy-T, hope your not thinking I got a problem with Trance, becuase I sure don't, I still love it, I was just wondering why its missing that certain <- something, so just wanted to hear peoples opinions, I still love trance, and yes change is good, I just hope it doesn't get more commercial.

Oh and thanks for the spelling, I knew I spelt it wrong, but couldn't remember the correct way.


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