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WTF is wrong with Craig Stevens?
Sat around with a couPLa mates last nite and disscussed Craig Stevens. I came to the conclusion he is WEAK. Thats right weak. He'll never be a champion...and here is why..
He's forgotten why he started swimming in the first PLace. He now just wants money and to be a commentator.
PeoPLe say he would have had a lot of pressure on him...
He built the pressure on himself...he shouldnt have even entertained the idea of giving away his slot in the first PLace.
difference between a champion and someone who is just very good...
Thorpe is disqualified..thus handing the event to Stevens on a silver PLatter..he doesnt take it.
Stevens chicken out and opts for ca$h..and offers the event back to Thorpe on the same silver PLatter.
Thorpe takes it...because he understands that you must take every oppurtunity.
JPL coming out with the big guns blazing and doesnt miss a single shot. YOur goal as an elite sportsman is no.1 to be the best no.2 race in any event thinking you can win it.
WHere is the hunger, the passion, the grit the determination in him. He got the oppurtunity to represent AUstralia. Sure lucky, but mate sport is always about a little luck. Why not prove australia wrong with his hunger and his commitment. And say, right i toook thorpies spot, im gonna try get the gold and prove everyone wrong.
Hes a true cop out in every sense of the word. In fact in essence hes what every elite coach tries not to instill in an athelete.
Big ups to JPL for speaking out.
i agree. he made a poor decision, however would've been put under alot of pressure, and knows that for the sake of the country winning medals (and of course to make alot of cash) he should sacrifice his place for Thorpe.
its not too good though :/
sorry guys I have to disagree! Stevens realised he had no hope of winning and gave Australia the best possible opportuinity to add gold to its cabinet, by relinquishing his place to the WORLD RECORD holder of the event Ian Thorpe. Well done Stevens, it takes guts to do what you did!
I think he did the right thing....because I think ppl who get a place in the Olympics should be there because they beat all their competitors...not because one of their competitors fell off the starting block.....
But, I think he did the wrong thing by accepting money/other non-cash incentives for doing something that was morally right....accepting the money has tainted it, and I've lost respect for him cos of that....
But I think the real issue here is how stupid the rules for election into the Aus Olympic swim team are.....to base it on ONE race, on ONE day, is just insane.....there are a whole bunch of reasons why somebody may not have a brilliant performance on that one day, but overall may be our best swimmer.....it should be based on the average of a number of previous performances etc.....basing it on one single snapshot is INSANE..........the rules def need to be changed 
meh swimming 
you have to understand his finacial position aswell. the AIS only provides him with training, board and food. Not everyone has the comfort of having sponsorships deals like Ian thorpe. and training 12 times a week dosent leave much time for a job
winning by default is the australian way! what craig stevens did, was UNAUSTRALIAN!!!
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| Originally posted by jizza winning by default is the australian way! what craig stevens did, was UNAUSTRALIAN!!! |
how is accepting money to tell the story tainting his decision exactly? fate put him into a very interesting situation, which other people wanted to know of. Nothing wrong with accepting some payment to tell his story. Was it his moral obligation to give the story for free to some news source, so a big company could make all the profits from it?
Steven's got his place within the rules. So the rules suck, but he earnt his place there as the rules were.
I think he realised it was worth more to himself to still be at the olympics for relays, and to have a clear conscience (not that he had done anything wrong). Otherwise he may be hearing the same thing for the rest of his life, as people talk about the record numbers thorpe may have set if not for thie event. Imagine how much that would piss you off having to hear that all the time. he didn't have a real shot at the gold anyway, so for that extra 1-2 swims it just wouldn't be worth it.
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| Originally posted by Paulie WHere is the hunger, the passion, the grit the determination in him. He got the oppurtunity to represent AUstralia. Sure lucky, but mate sport is always about a little luck. Why not prove australia wrong with his hunger and his commitment. And say, right i toook thorpies spot, im gonna try get the gold and prove everyone wrong. Hes a true cop out in every sense of the word. In fact in essence hes what every elite coach tries not to instill in an athelete. |
Agree with JPL and Paulie to be honest .. I always though the Olympics were about competing and doing your best, not winning 
Sort of like Eric the Eel at the Sydney Olympics, his swimming officials lied about his lap times to get him into the Olympics. He was never going to win shit, but just imagine the thrill of competing (especially in an empty pool in front of 10,000 people!).
Ian Thorpe broke the rules (which by the way aren't Australian rules, they're the same the world over), so he shouldn't be there. Putting pressure on someone else to quit so Thorpe can swim is just not on.
He has done the right thing.. He is part of the AUSTRALIAN team, not the Craig Stevens team. If he swam at Athens, he probably wouldnt even make the final. Now he has given Australia a chance at the gold medal. Sure, he puts in a lot of time & effort into training at some ungodly hour of the morning (probably the same time of morning that we decide what recovery to go to), but he knows he isnt as good as Thorpe, not yet at least.
he would have copped it before, during & after the Olympics if he hadnt pulled out. He still gets to swim in the relays with the chance of a medal, and has made some cash for selling his story.. a win win situation.
LOL. Its not too obvious who has played sport competitive and who hasnt.
Its what seperates the best from the average and with stevens attitude he will always be average.
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| Originally posted by jizza winning by default is the australian way! what craig stevens did, was UNAUSTRALIAN!!! |
Stevens is a PUSSY!Probably never be a champion with a weak attitude like that.
What if Thorpe does the same again
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| Originally posted by Paulie LOL. Its not too obvious who has played sport competitive and who hasnt. Its what seperates the best from the average and with stevens attitude he will always be average. |
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| Originally posted by doubleecho LOL is obious none of you have ever swum before. you need to understand the physical drain that swims put on you. especially if your doing a 1500 a 400 and a 200 in the space of a week. Each event has heats and then finals later on. |
i think its all too much effort anyway.
swimming is just too strenuous. why not stay home and watch tv?
Considering he earnt the place by default, imagine the pressure he would have been put under to win. His personal best time wouldn't have got him into the finals and he was 20m+ back behind Hackett at the finishline of the trials.
When it came to the Olympics and he failed, everyone would have got on his back about why he should have stepped aside for Thorpe.
Now he can focus on his specialist event without the pressure of Australia haunting him for 6 months. Its not like he's not going to Athens anymore, he stepped aside for the best swimmer in history to swim in his best event.
It may be an individual race, but its still a team that takes part.
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| Originally posted by Stu Considering he earnt the place by default, imagine the pressure he would have been put under to win. His personal best time wouldn't have got him into the finals and he was 20m+ back behind Hackett at the finishline of the trials. When it came to the Olympics and he failed, everyone would have got on his back about why he should have stepped aside for Thorpe. Now he can focus on his specialist event without the pressure of Australia haunting him for 6 months. Its not like he's not going to Athens anymore, he stepped aside for the best swimmer in history to swim in his best event. It may be an individual race, but its still a team that takes part. |
Yer, i at first thought, hey Thorpe you chump, u fall off and still get a place....
But i didnt realise that Stevens had 2 races, and only being in one, gives him a better chance in taking that one out.
Well, so the media and swimming ppl lead me to beleive.
Whatever...
I just hope Roy and HG are signed up for another installment of The Dream.
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| Originally posted by gumble I just hope Roy and HG are signed up for another installment of The Dream. |
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| Originally posted by waXology meh swimming |
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| Originally posted by Mangler He has done the right thing.. He is part of the AUSTRALIAN team, not the Craig Stevens team. If he swam at Athens, he probably wouldnt even make the final. Now he has given Australia a chance at the gold medal. Sure, he puts in a lot of time & effort into training at some ungodly hour of the morning (probably the same time of morning that we decide what recovery to go to), but he knows he isnt as good as Thorpe, not yet at least. he would have copped it before, during & after the Olympics if he hadnt pulled out. He still gets to swim in the relays with the chance of a medal, and has made some cash for selling his story.. a win win situation. |
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