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Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-29-2004 22:59:

Why I never fly in Canada

Round trip to Montreal at $2 comes out to $70 after taxes

In the US i can fly round trip regular price Buffalo to NYC (same distance) for $100 US including all taxes. Taxes and service fees there are only $15 in total.

No wonder Canada 3000 went tits up and Air Canada is in trouble.

Whenever i go overseas i drive to Buffalo. It usually saves me tonnes of cash


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-29-2004 23:00:

jay i know...i called really not worth it...i can rent a shitmobile for 30 bucks and just drive to mtl for cheaper...


Posted by Skipper on Apr-29-2004 23:03:

But by going to buffalo, you have to deal with all that border crossing shit, plus also pay to park your car or rent an airport taxi.

No thanks.

I agree that this deal is a fucking joke though. If it were to halifax or something, I'd be all over it...but Mtl...pffft.


Posted by tatgirl on Apr-29-2004 23:23:

Tell me about it. I drive to Buffalo all the time & catch flights from there. The airfare deals are 100x times better in the states. I used to have a friend who lived down the road from the airport, and once I left my car at her house while I was in Israel for 10 days. It was perfect (but then they moved ). Still, as long as its a short weekend trip, I don't mind the extra haul to save a wad of cash. Parking at the Buffalo airport is also not that expensive ($7-9 US/day).


Posted by StereoPrincess on Apr-29-2004 23:25:

It is pretty much the same thing as driving.

Rent a car for whatever and for gas there and back. I can't see that being less than 70 dollars for your trip plus parking and bullshit and possible speeding tickets. Flying is fast and gets you there with no hassles. What's the big deal that they add all that stuff to it. I mean you didn't really expect it to be 2 dollars, did you?


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-29-2004 23:29:

i expected it under 20 bucks


Posted by tatgirl on Apr-29-2004 23:32:

No, but u see Canada has a way of offering seat sales that are never the price they advertise. Example: my RT flight to Miami 1 year was $150 on sale. Total came to $310 after taxes. Still, a cheap fare, but when the taxes cost more than the airfare, something is really wrong...

Southwest Airlines used to offer $34 each way from Buffalo to Baltimore (a 9-10 hr drive otherwise). There was maybe $5 of extra charges added on. Nothing else. Fly home & back for under $70 US. Yes, I had to drive 1.75 hrs to get to the airport, but when u compare the cost of a direct flight from here to there....


Posted by StereoPrincess on Apr-29-2004 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
i expected it under 20 bucks


why?

pay for what you get.

you get a fast no hassle trip to MTL. Unless they are beaming you there in 5 seconds, it takes money to run those planes and airports.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-29-2004 23:40:

hmm i dunno i dont ravel..ive never been on a plane so i dont know shit abt airfare taxes or anything..i dont even have a passport


Posted by malek on Apr-30-2004 00:03:

70$ is still cheap... costs 50$ in gas one way to come over, plus the milage you put on the car, plus the boring trip...
and the worst, to put up with ontarian left lane huggers


Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-30-2004 00:14:

$70 is a good deal.. if that were regular price. What im upset about is that this is what you pay in taxes ALONE!

And as for the Buffalo option. You already have to deal with customs anyways. Also, its never that bad if you have a passport. Also long term parking at Buffalo airport is $44 US per week i believe. What is it at the new terminal in Toronto again? Oh yeah $75 per DAY.

As for gas, half a tank there and half a tank back.

When i go to argentina i usually save about $700 Canadian by flying buffalo and connecting in NYC when all is said and done.

Even to fly Toronto to NYC is almost $400 Canadian compared to $135 Canadian with jetblue from buffalo.


Posted by Jayx1 on Apr-30-2004 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
70$ is still cheap... costs 50$ in gas one way to come over, plus the milage you put on the car, plus the boring trip...
and the worst, to put up with ontarian left lane huggers


The left lane thing seems to be exclusive to Ontario.

Nowhere else in the world is this problem so bad nor do they let you get away with it. In Europe theyd either fine you or literally run u off the road!


Posted by d!abolic on Apr-30-2004 00:40:

Shit, if a cab home from the club costs $25, paying $70 to fly all the way to Montreal isn't that bad


Posted by d!abolic on Apr-30-2004 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
The left lane thing seems to be exclusive to Ontario.

Nowhere else in the world is this problem so bad nor do they let you get away with it. In Europe theyd either fine you or literally run u off the road!
I drive for 500-750km a week and i only run into one of these pricks once every several weeks. It seems like everyone's going 130-140 in the left lane. Am i missing something here?


Posted by malek on Apr-30-2004 00:56:

quote:
Originally posted by d!abolic
I drive for 500-750km a week and i only run into one of these pricks once every several weeks. It seems like everyone's going 130-140 in the left lane. Am i missing something here?



yes you are missing something, if someone is coming faster than you on the left lane (at any speed) you let them pass

reminder: left lane is only for passing, not for driving


Posted by disko-kandi on Apr-30-2004 01:38:

Drunk

quote:
Originally posted by malek
yes you are missing something, if someone is coming faster than you on the left lane (at any speed) you let them pass

reminder: left lane is only for passing, not for driving


not on the autobahn! hehe! i'm one of those -the right lane doesn't exist for me especially when driving a bmw or mercedes!
the right lane is for 'sunday drivers' and people with mopeds and traktors (j/k they're not even allowed on the auobahn) ... unless u have the so-called 'ghost-drivers' who drive in the wrong direction!

no, but seriously, the thing about buffalo is true. i was just talking about that last nite with a friend who told me the same thing. next time i go to europe i will do the same.

i'm not so sure anymore if it's worth flying up to mtl from TO b/c the last time i flew it took me longer than by car, esp. cos of the constant delays with jetsgo (shit service if u ask me), and all the other stuff of getting to the airport, checking in, waiting, getting to your destination from the airport etc.!
and when i drove up for BeB i spent $120 on gas (return) with the pathfinder and it took me about 4.5 hrs one way ...


Posted by djshan on Apr-30-2004 01:38:

canjet is gonna dominate in the next 5 years, with the boeing 737's.


Posted by malek on Apr-30-2004 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by disko-kandi
not on the autobahn! hehe! i'm one of those -the right lane doesn't exist for me especially when driving a bmw or mercedes!
the right lane is for 'sunday drivers' and people with mopeds and traktors (j/k they're not even allowed on the auobahn) ... unless u have the so-called 'ghost-drivers' who drive in the wrong direction!

no, but seriously, the thing about buffalo is true. i was just talking about that last nite with a friend who told me the same thing. next time i go to europe i will do the same.

i'm not so sure anymore if it's worth flying up to mtl from TO b/c the last time i flew it took me longer than by car, esp. cos of the constant delays with jetsgo (shit service if u ask me), and all the other stuff of getting to the airport, checking in, waiting, getting to your destination from the airport etc.!
and when i drove up for BeB i spent $120 on gas (return) with the pathfinder and it took me about 4.5 hrs one way ...


120$ both ways ?? or one way!?!?!?!?!?!


Posted by d!abolic on Apr-30-2004 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
yes you are missing something, if someone is coming faster than you on the left lane (at any speed) you let them pass

reminder: left lane is only for passing, not for driving
Every so oftn, someone who seems to think 140 is too slow does come along. When this happens, i promptly let him pass, then get back in the left lane, go at whatever speed he's going and use him as cop bait


Posted by malek on Apr-30-2004 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by d!abolic
Every so oftn, someone who seems to think 140 is too slow does come along. When this happens, i promptly let him pass, then get back in the left lane, go at whatever speed he's going and use him as cop bait



thats pretty smart... but i've seen a cop stop the first car, then go after the second car... yes totaly unfair


Posted by TrueToTheCrew on Apr-30-2004 03:51:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
yes you are missing something, if someone is coming faster than you on the left lane (at any speed) you let them pass

reminder: left lane is only for passing, not for driving


Generally your right but i commute on 401 everyday and find that if your willing to drive 140+ you can stay in that lane. however, if your coming up behind someone and they dont move over when they have the room to, you have every "right" to ride thier ass, horn, high beam or whatever it takes.

Also, you should try to stay out of the left lane if there isnt too much volume.

I cant stand ignorant fuks that misuse the left lane.


Posted by harcourt on Apr-30-2004 15:28:

Re: Why I never fly in Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Round trip to Montreal at $2 comes out to $70 after taxes

In the US i can fly round trip regular price Buffalo to NYC (same distance) for $100 US including all taxes. Taxes and service fees there are only $15 in total.


This doesn't compute, you're saying paying $100USD ($137CDN) and driving to buffalo (parking, crossing, time involved) is better then paying $70CDN?


Posted by harcourt on Apr-30-2004 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
And as for the Buffalo option. You already have to deal with customs anyways. Also, its never that bad if you have a passport. Also long term parking at Buffalo airport is $44 US per week i believe. What is it at the new terminal in Toronto again? Oh yeah $75 per DAY.


hahaa, um no it's not, it's MAX $21.75/day. I know, I've done it.


Posted by disko-kandi on Apr-30-2004 15:46:

quote:
Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew
however, if your coming up behind someone and they dont move over when they have the room to, you have every "right" to ride thier ass, horn, high beam or whatever it takes.


according to new laws in germany, this is called harassment and you can be fined and sued for that!
but it's no fun when ur driving a lil punto fiat, which ur flooring but won't move and there's some mean, big ass mercedes kissing your bumper and flashing the high beams ...agh! hihi!

malek ~ it was $120 for both ways. (mind you, i was also not driving normal speed limit...)



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