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Posted by sabin on Aug-29-2001 21:16:

Why is Tiesto so erratic all of a sudden?

I'm mostly referring to his new album "in my memory". In my opinion the only good tracks are Flight 643, Urban Train and Magik Journey. We all knew Flight 643 and Urban train before the album, so the only real new gem is Magik Journey.

Magik Journey is an amazing track, bringing me back to the days of Kayama Painters - Far from over, The Quest - C sharp, Binary Finary -1999 were the kings of trance, great uplifting shit.

But besides Magik Journey, his other new stuff I think is sub-par. It's like Tiesto did Magik Journey, then handed the album off to DJ Jean to complete =)

How can he produce almost all great tracks then mediocre stuff? Doesn't he LISTEN to it?


Posted by [A|ienFactory] on Aug-29-2001 21:22:

Re: Why is Tiesto so erratic all of a sudden?

I actually like Lethal Industry. But he has produced so much good,"older", stuff (1998-200), still he didn't include anything of it on the new album. Strange....


Posted by djSlain on Aug-29-2001 21:27:

i COMPLETELY agree. If I wasn't scared enough, i would say his album is SH|T.
no wait. i'll say it:

TIESTO'S ALBUM IS SH|T

Tiesto primarily stands for the production\promotion of trance. I LOVED all the trance songs on his album. Magik Journey, Urban Train, Flight 643, and slightly that Close 2 You Remake.
But WTF is with all this ambient stuff? Ambient and vocal? nothing and just vocal? damn, i'd understand if maybe 2 of the tracks were this mellow, but 60% of the album is just full of WISH WOSH WEESH WOOSH sounds. I did enjoy Dallas 4PM tho (ambient)

to put this into context:
It's like ordering a Guns N Roses CD, getting some NICE rock tunes, and then getting Barber's Adagio for Strings. Sure it's a nice song, but Gun n Roses stand for rock, DON'T blow yourself up by entering different genres which you don't stand for.

if i wanted this kind of ambient/vocal stuff, i would've gone out and bought a Sarah McLaughlin CD. If i want trance, i'd go for a Tiesto CD. But this w3rk he has provided us with changes my mind. It's back to trusting Ferry Corsten.


Posted by jon jon on Aug-29-2001 21:36:

Sad tijs

Please quit insulting the god of production!?! hah I know I know, the album could of been much more impressive, I'm gonna have to agree with you guys. I think this is the 4th thread to go on about how boring it is.

I can't believe no one is making reference to the many portishead rip-offs?!?

However to contradict you guys, I do love "Lethal Industry" as well as "Obsession". They are both tracks which grew on me huge. I find that the lyrics in "Battleship Grey" are garbage, you can totally tell they were written by someone who can't speak english well. haha Or whatever, they are crap.

I do enjoy the album tho, I think it's weird no doubt, but have trust in the man, he is my fav entertainer (oohh max graham a close second) and he will shine in Toronto! Who's coming to Guv? hah

Jon


Posted by Eugene on Aug-29-2001 21:43:

Tiesto, like many of his fellow DJ's, has taken the backlash against trance too seriously.


Posted by luckystrike on Aug-29-2001 21:46:

*another thread about tiesto's new album*

well - i know what you all mean but i think it shows the variety of tiesto...
flight 643 is pretty progressive , while other trackz are more chill-out style and magik journey is uplifiting trance (damn , i love this one - hope to see a transa remix)

i didnt expect that from tiesto either...
like i said before - the album remind me a little of chiacne style
but anyway - i think its pretty good album - its grow in you...
the first time i heard him i hated most of the tracks but now i think all of them are pretty good... nice to chill...


Posted by djVersus on Aug-29-2001 21:53:

personally, I never thought tiesto was a super producer like the schiller team or tandu or ferry corsten; I always thought he was OK.

Take ferry corsten's album "out of the blue" and compare it to tiesto's "in my memory", sorry guys, no comparison. Compare it to tandu's "nirwana" aka Ayla, uh, nice try tiesto.

But you know what, the album has 4-5 class tunes, "flight 643, close to you, urban train, etc, etc, the rest are just fillers but hey, isn't that how most albums are any ways? 3-5 good tunes and the rest FILLERS? at this point, it's all about CASHING IN for tiesto.


Posted by reveal on Aug-29-2001 22:27:

let's hope the european release will be better, as far as i know some of the tracks will be replaced by other new ones...


Posted by patticus on Aug-29-2001 23:02:

for the record, chicane's behind the sun album is WAY better... that's a great blend of ambience and trance


Posted by TrueDis on Aug-29-2001 23:25:

Personally I think the japanese release of In My Memory is AMAZING and I think Tiesto did a great job with it. Give the man a break, he's doing what he loves, and I'm loving it


Posted by Tranz on Aug-29-2001 23:37:

I think the album is very creative and on higher level than his pervious work. I don't think the album is for everybody... because you have to understand the music. Every track seems to carry a different emotion... and I think that makes it a masterpiece. The 2 songs I like the least on the album is Close To You & Flight 643. All the other tracks are well thought out... and dive deep into your intellect... if you have the ability to let yourself free. He's taking his production to a higher level... and leaving the lesser intelligent people behind. Don't say you hate it, because you don't understand it.


Posted by djVersus on Aug-29-2001 23:43:

paticus,

YES! I forgot about the chicane album.


Posted by Don on Aug-29-2001 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by TrueDis
Personally I think the japanese release of In My Memory is AMAZING and I think Tiesto did a great job with it. Give the man a break, he's doing what he loves, and I'm loving it


Amen!!!!!!!


Posted by djSlain on Aug-29-2001 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranzlucent
I think the album is very creative and on higher level than his pervious work. I don't think the album is for everybody... because you have to understand the music. Every track seems to carry a different emotion... and I think that makes it a masterpiece. The 2 songs I like the least on the album is Close To You & Flight 643. All the other tracks are well thought out... and dive deep into your intellect... if you have the ability to let yourself free. He's taking his production to a higher level... and leaving the lesser intelligent people behind. Don't say you hate it, because you don't understand it.


this is the kind of attitude that make the fans of pop music SO idiotic. They don't even listen to the music, they just follow the name. the word "tiesto" DOES NOT show if he is good or not. the words "tiesto's work" is what shows if he is good or not. THIS IS AMBIENT music. Is it good? NO, NOT AT F=CKING ALL. it's not TOOOOOO sophisticated for me. i've started taking a like into ambient/chilled music with Solar Stone's latest mix. NONE of the chilled/ambient songs on Tiesto's Album compares to ANY song on that album. ACCEPT IT. He attempted to succeed in other genre's and FAILED. Tiesto! Please go back to making trance!!!!!


Posted by SYNthSRI on Aug-29-2001 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by luckystrike
*another thread about tiesto's new album*


like i said before - the album remind me a little of chiacne style
but anyway - i think its pretty good album - its grow in you...
the first time i heard him i hated most of the tracks but now i think all of them are pretty good... nice to chill...


OMG! I thought I was the only one that compared this album to Chicane's. LOL

The album DOES grow on you after the first 2-3 times you listen to it.
Just listen to it with an open ear, and lounge out. Don't classify it as trance, just electronic music.


Posted by luckystrike on Aug-30-2001 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by SYNthSRI


OMG! I thought I was the only one that compared this album to Chicane's. LOL

The album DOES grow on you after the first 2-3 times you listen to it.
Just listen to it with an open ear, and lounge out. Don't classify it as trance, just electronic music.


exactly what i think!


Posted by DJ Flipstream on Aug-30-2001 10:57:

King

Hopefully he's keeping all his ideas for the Gouryella CD!!


Posted by TimeportE on Aug-30-2001 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Flipstream
Hopefully he's keeping all his ideas for the Gouryella CD!!

Yeah hope so.. any words on that one?...
by the way the good tracks on the cd KICK ASS!!.. but the rest is indeed too much ambient.. too bad, Still tiesto ROCKS!


Posted by dazza on Aug-30-2001 16:20:

the album wasnt what i expected but i still enjoyed it


dazza


Posted by tango on Aug-30-2001 16:34:

i'm allways open for new music, and i just LOVE this album!

sorry peepz, but i like it very much, allmost every track.

grtz,
TNG


Posted by Denser on Aug-30-2001 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by tango
i'm allways open for new music, and i just LOVE this album!

sorry peepz, but i like it very much, allmost every track.

grtz,
TNG


every track for me too ! i think tiesto has done it again...i like the amount attention he has devoted to some tracks...u can vividly hear lot of different sounds...almost throughout some tracks...

its funny...cos i even like battleship grey ! IMHO...great album...better than System-f's...and comparable to Behind the Sun.


Posted by Veldrid on Aug-30-2001 21:26:

There is a reason that Tiesto did his album the way he did. I don't know if the majority of you guys know this but Tiesto did his first U.S. club not to long ago when he did magic 7. In an interview regarding that album and him further touring the US, he stated that he is going to bring a new trance sound to the US. He doesnt want to be Oakenfold ( who isnt really that great, he just was the first to bring it all to the US ). Tiesto wants to be better than Oakenfold and bring something new to the platter.


Posted by PSi on Aug-30-2001 21:48:

chillout/ambient is excellent and i love his new album i like his change in style.


Posted by shr00mz on Aug-31-2001 07:26:

I hope this album was created by an evil alien clone of Tiesto..otherwise it is pure sh|te.



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