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Posted by subuddha on May-06-2004 23:15:

Average IQ by state and how they voted in 2000

dont take this too seriously

link


Posted by icyhandofcrap on May-07-2004 00:39:

lol!


Posted by Dervish on May-07-2004 01:00:

Thats very cool.


So is that>>>

quote:
Note: Several readers have written in regarding our "typo" in calling Florida for Gore. We thank our readers for bringing this to our attention for, even though Gore did get the most votes in Fla., he did not end up carrying the state. The correction has been made


Posted by imokruok on May-07-2004 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
So is that>>>


So, what's the IQ of the people who did the website? Said it before, and I'll say it again: Not once during the official recounts (yes, all of them) was Gore ever ahead. He also didn't win in the independent media recounts done by newspapers none too friendly to Republicans. But facts don't matter when you're a Democrat.


Posted by PHALPAX on May-07-2004 01:34:

*nods* interesting......


Posted by occrider on May-07-2004 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by imokruok
So, what's the IQ of the people who did the website? Said it before, and I'll say it again: Not once during the official recounts (yes, all of them) was Gore ever ahead. He also didn't win in the independent media recounts done by newspapers none too friendly to Republicans. But facts don't matter when you're a Democrat.


Hehe as subuddha said, don't take it so seriously. Any first year stat student learns that statistical significance is not the same as causality. Trying to establish a correlation between IQ and who you vote for based upon average IQs of how the electoral votes of a state went leaves causality errors so big a statistician can fly a plane through it.

But I actually like that inference ... and I'll take it a step further. The source is pulling its data from a book called IQ and the Wealth of Nations. The premise put forth by the authors is that, "a significant part of the gap between rich and poor countries is due to differences in national intelligence (national IQs). Based on an extensive survey of national IQ tests, the results of their study challenge the previous theories of economic development and provide a new basis to evaluate the prospects of economic development throughout the world."

Therefore one should be able to measure intelligence on the basis of the wealth of a country. Given that wealth is defined by GDP per capita, one need only look at country by country data to determine which countries are the smartest:

http://www.worldfactsandfigures.com...ountry_desc.php

Asides from those damn luxembourgians, I guess we're pretty damn smart.


Posted by smokeape on May-07-2004 02:42:

Thank God for Mississippi!


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by DaveSZ on May-07-2004 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
Thank God for Mississippi!


[[[smoke]]]



Yep.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local...%20Body%20Found

quote:


Friday, April 23, 2004 � Last updated 8:11 p.m. PT

Washington man found hanging from tree

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WOODVILLE, Miss. -- Family members say a man found Friday hanging from a tree in rural Mississippi had returned home to fight for his family's land.

The body of 55-year-old Roy Veal was discovered in Wilkinson County, relatives said.

Warren Strain, spokesman for the Mississippi Department of Public Safety, said the body was discovered about midday in a wooded area of the county near Woodville. Authorities declined to identify the man pending notification of relatives.

But Doris Gordon, a Woodville native now living in San Francisco, said the victim was her brother, Roy Veal of Washington state. Thelma Veal, the man's mother, also confirmed the identity.

"They found my brother hanging from a tree with a hood over his head and some papers burned at his feet," Gordon said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press from San Francisco. "It's awful. We don't know who did it."

Oliver James, 72, one of the men who led authorities to Veal's body, said there appeared to be a blue-flowered cover over Veal's head. James said one of the investigators said it appeared to be a pillow case. James also said Veal's truck was parked about 50 feet away.

Gordon, who said she would be returning to Woodville as soon as possible, said her brother had returned to the family home in Wilkinson County "to help with a lawsuit pending against our family."

"There are people trying to take part of our land because they apparently think there is oil on the land," she said.

Strain said the Highway Patrol's Bureau of Investigation was looking into the death.

County Coroner Travis Sharp said he had not been contacted; the sheriff's department declined any comment.

FBI spokeswoman Deborah Madden said agents were available if needed but at this point the investigation was being handled by local authorities.

Officials at the chancery clerk's office in Woodville said a lawsuit pending in chancery court names several members of the Thelma Veal family, including Doris Gordon and apparently Roy Veal, as defendants.

Chancery Clerk Thomas Tolliver Jr., said the case involved title to land in the county and damages.

Thelma Veal said the lawsuit sought portions of land owned by her late husband and his brothers. She said her son had obtained a map of the property and was collecting documents to prove the family owned the land.

"Now they have found my son hung back there on a tree," said Thelma Veal, 79.

She said her husband owned more than 40 acres in the area southwest of Woodville and that it was being sought because it might have oil deposits.

There is oil production in that area of the state.

"My husband's daddy bought this land in 1926 and I've been here ever since I was 18," she said. "It's our land."


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on May-07-2004 09:37:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Hehe as subuddha said, don't take it so seriously. Any first year stat student learns that statistical significance is not the same as causality. Trying to establish a correlation between IQ and who you vote for based upon average IQs of how the electoral votes of a state went leaves causality errors so big a statistician can fly a plane through it.

But I actually like that inference ... and I'll take it a step further. The source is pulling its data from a book called IQ and the Wealth of Nations. The premise put forth by the authors is that, "a significant part of the gap between rich and poor countries is due to differences in national intelligence (national IQs). Based on an extensive survey of national IQ tests, the results of their study challenge the previous theories of economic development and provide a new basis to evaluate the prospects of economic development throughout the world."

Therefore one should be able to measure intelligence on the basis of the wealth of a country. Given that wealth is defined by GDP per capita, one need only look at country by country data to determine which countries are the smartest:

http://www.worldfactsandfigures.com...ountry_desc.php

Asides from those damn luxembourgians, I guess we're pretty damn smart.


Well, the site says otherwise:
quote:
Error Correction: The source of this data is not "Wealth of Nations" as it had been attributed to us. A reader writes in and tells us he has the book (Sorry to hear that Mike) and the state IQ's aren't in it. This is a huge relief as the book is one of those race/IQ books. So we're still trying to track down the source for the IQ scores. As this is all a bit of good fun we aren't to concerned with the source. We know that Republicans are mentally impaired. If they weren't, that would just make them greedy.


Posted by St_Andrew on May-07-2004 11:22:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Asides from those damn luxembourgians, I guess we're pretty damn smart.


you wish unfortunally, i know the truth:


Hong Kong 107
Korea, South 106
Japan 105
Taiwan 104
Singapore 104
Austria 102
Germany 102
Italy 102
Netherlands 102
Sweden 101
Switzerland 101
Belgium 100
China 100
New Zealand 100
U. Kingdom 100
Hungary 99
Poland 99
Australia 98
Denmark 98
France 98
Norway 98
United States 98
Canada 97
Czech Republic 97
Finland 97
Spain 97
Argentina 96
Russia 96
Slovakia 96
Uruguay 96
Portugal 95
Slovenia 95
Israel 94
Romania 94
Bulgaria 93
Ireland 93
Greece 92
Malaysia 92
Thailand 91
Croatia 90
Peru 90
Turkey 90
Colombia 89
Indonesia 89
Suriname 89
Brazil 87
Iraq 87
Mexico 87
Samoa (Western) 87
Tonga 87
Lebanon 86
Philippines 86
Cuba 85
Morocco 85
Fiji 84
Iran 84
Marshall Islands 84
Puerto Rico 84
Egypt 83
India 81
Ecuador 80
Guatemala 79
Barbados 78
Nepal 78
Qatar 78
Zambia 77
Congo (Brazz) 73
Uganda 73
Jamaica 72
Kenya 72
South Africa 72
Sudan 72
Tanzania 72
Ghana 71
Nigeria 67
Guinea 66
Zimbabwe 66
Congo (Zaire) 65
Sierra Leone 64
Ethiopia 63
Guinea 59

http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

as you can see: eastern asia, Europe, america... doesn't it feel bad to be proven stupider than us?


Posted by arctic on May-07-2004 12:53:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm


That is without a doubt the stupidest, most disgusting piece of tripe I've ever seen posted on this forum. Are you seriously asserting that New Zealanders have (on average) a higher IQ than Australians? If so, then you've got serious issues my friend.


Posted by St_Andrew on May-07-2004 12:59:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
That is without a doubt the stupidest, most disgusting piece of tripe I've ever seen posted on this forum. Are you seriously asserting that New Zealanders have (on average) a higher IQ than Australians? If so, then you've got serious issues my friend.


sorry to be the one to tell you =/

just face it.



important part is that sweden is top 10, beat norway and the US.


Posted by Dervish on May-07-2004 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew

U. Kingdom 100


Yay UK mediocre as ever


Posted by occrider on May-07-2004 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
sorry to be the one to tell you =/

just face it.



important part is that sweden is top 10, beat norway and the US.


So I guess you guys are pretty smart but just suck at making money . Oh well where's Canada again?

Don't worry arctic we'll band together to take on these uppity know-it-alls.


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on May-07-2004 16:45:

quote:

Croatia 90


Hmm, this explains keeping Tudjman in office for 8 years.


Posted by subtledreamer on May-07-2004 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
you wish unfortunally, i know the truth:


Hong Kong 107
Korea, South 106
Japan 105
Taiwan 104
Singapore 104
Austria 102
Germany 102
Italy 102
Netherlands 102
Sweden 101
Switzerland 101
Belgium 100
China 100
New Zealand 100
U. Kingdom 100
Hungary 99
Poland 99
Australia 98
Denmark 98
France 98
Norway 98
United States 98
Canada 97
Czech Republic 97
Finland 97
Spain 97
Argentina 96
Russia 96
Slovakia 96
Uruguay 96
Portugal 95
Slovenia 95
Israel 94
Romania 94
Bulgaria 93
Ireland 93
Greece 92
Malaysia 92
Thailand 91
Croatia 90
Peru 90
Turkey 90
Colombia 89
Indonesia 89
Suriname 89
Brazil 87
Iraq 87
Mexico 87
Samoa (Western) 87
Tonga 87
Lebanon 86
Philippines 86
Cuba 85
Morocco 85
Fiji 84
Iran 84
Marshall Islands 84
Puerto Rico 84
Egypt 83
India 81
Ecuador 80
Guatemala 79
Barbados 78
Nepal 78
Qatar 78
Zambia 77
Congo (Brazz) 73
Uganda 73
Jamaica 72
Kenya 72
South Africa 72
Sudan 72
Tanzania 72
Ghana 71
Nigeria 67
Guinea 66
Zimbabwe 66
Congo (Zaire) 65
Sierra Leone 64
Ethiopia 63
Guinea 59

http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

as you can see: eastern asia, Europe, america... doesn't it feel bad to be proven stupider than us?


nice link!

HONG KONG
yay-yah


Posted by smokeape on May-08-2004 01:06:

Thank God for Guinea!

Lol!!!

[[[smoke]]]


Posted by icyhandofcrap on May-08-2004 01:14:

Drug_Tito,

I just had a history test and I put Tito as the leader of Bulgaria after WWII. Fug.. i feel dumb now


Posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l on May-08-2004 01:25:

france : 98 .....
it doesn't suprise me ...the rate of stupidity has been reached several times in few days here .....if u look about our new reality show aswell .....i guess everyone heard about "the simple life" with paris hilton ....we got the french version and that's just ....pathetic .....

98 ....but before the US still cool then


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on May-08-2004 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
france : 98 .....
it doesn't suprise me ...the rate of stupidity has been reached several times in few days here .....if u look about our new reality show aswell .....i guess everyone heard about "the simple life" with paris hilton ....we got the french version and that's just ....pathetic .....


Hey, what are you complaining about?!? That's 8 points higher than what I have to put up with!

quote:
98 ....but before the US still cool then


Heh, lucky for you that F comes before U in the alphabet


Posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l on May-08-2004 15:18:

LOL yeah ur right .....silly me !!! didn't guess it was by alphabetic order


Posted by Lira on May-08-2004 18:01:

quote:
In the past, the opposite of voluntary migration to another country was slavery. Nations like the US and Brazil were peopled with both types of migrants. Accordingly, opposite selection effects for the free and slave peoples were at work. On average, those arriving voluntarily (including indentured servants) likely had more ambition and brains than those who were caught and sent as slaves. The migrations into the US of both Eastern European Jews and Africans were the result of horrible events. Many people died in these events, especially in the originating countries. One process selected out people with higher IQ's and ambition, the other possibly the opposite. Thus we should not be surprised at the large difference in IQ's currently between these groups in the US.

So the website is actually a joke


Posted by PHALPAX on May-09-2004 02:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
So the website is actually a joke


yup


Posted by Yoepus on May-09-2004 14:52:

Uhuh, but Israel should be number one because were Jews and smart, and supposed to take over the world.

Thereby I delcare this list false and inaccurate


Posted by ResonantDrag on May-10-2004 03:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Uhuh, but Israel should be number one because were Jews and smart, and supposed to take over the world.

Thereby I delcare this list false and inaccurate



i heard some guy named y-something pulled down their average
























sorry, couldn't resist


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