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Posted by DigiNut on May-08-2004 15:59:

Slob appeal

It's time for another one of my patented rants. This was actually inspired by something Orbax wrote in another thread about people who don't know how to dress themselves and wear baggy clothes and sideways hats and so on... I want an honest answer here, preferably from females but anyone who knows is welcome to respond:

Why is it that every time I see a drop-dead gorgeous girl who happens to be with a guy, the guy is wearing a FUCKING BASEBALL CAP? Seriously, EVERY guy I see with a beautiful woman in this city has a goddamn HAT on. Do I have to wear one of those pieces of crap to get attention?

And on top of that, the angle of the hat seems to be directly proportional to just how far above average the girl is (i.e. the more sideways the hat, the more beautiful the girl). WHY? At what point in the history of this proud nation did it become respectable or even tolerable to dress like a slob? To me, a hat would seem to indicate that the person wearing it either cannot or is simply not willing to do a half-decent job washing/combing his hair in the morning, and just throws that thing on so people can't see the mop on his head. Yes, that MAY not be the reason they wear it, but it's like the girls who look like they showered in make-up, you just have to wonder what's hiding under it.

I realize this probably sounds ridiculous but it's honestly true. I just picked up on it a few weeks ago and have been paying attention since then, and it's seriously unreal how many jaw-dropping hotties hang around with guys with HATS on and just generally look like absolute slobs. I'm not basing this on 3 or 4 couples as some of you are probably thinking, I have seen this phenomenon AT LEAST 50 times in the past few weeks and almost never seen the opposite (i.e. the same thing with a well-dressed, well-off guy). This is not the same as the "bad boy" appeal either which I used to see when I was younger - these people do not look dangerous, they just look like idiots. I only weigh 140 but I know I could kick their asses in a heartbeat.

So let's hear it, is "slob" the "in"-fashion now? It makes me want to retch thinking about wearing ripped baggy jeans down to my ass along with a losing team's sport jersey and a sideways cap, but the statistical evidence is piling up fast - apparently that's what I have to do around here to be "cool".

Thoughts anyone?


Posted by Fundamental on May-08-2004 16:09:

I usually wear a hat out, but generally because it always so damn cold. Much of your body's heat escapes through your head, so it makes sense.


Posted by J.L. on May-08-2004 16:29:

I don't think it's the hats that piss me off.. it is the baggy oversized clothing that are 5 sizes too large that piss me off


Posted by Lira on May-08-2004 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by kewlness
it is the baggy oversized clothing that are 5 sizes too large that piss me off

Why? That's one of the best inventions ever. Handy, with loads of pockets and so comfy it feels like you're naked.


Posted by blazed it on May-08-2004 16:47:

ahhh but does the sideways hat bother you more or does the du rag/bandana under the hat bother you more?


Posted by DigiNut on May-08-2004 16:49:

It's not that the hats or baggy clothes bother me, per se, I just think that they look like slobs and cannot figure out what the girls here seem to find so damn attractive about it. Mind you, it's not like this in Toronto, just Kingston (much smaller city, kind of the boonies except for the universities).


Posted by Jiffy on May-08-2004 16:50:

Re: Slob appeal

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Rant of the slob-hater, which by the way, I enjoyed.

Thoughts anyone?


My first question to you is, how old are you?

And, what about "baggy clothes and hats" is it that eats you up inside? Also, what is your "fashion type"?


Posted by DigiNut on May-08-2004 16:57:

Re: Re: Slob appeal

quote:
Originally posted by Jiffy
My first question to you is, how old are you?

And, what about "baggy clothes and hats" is it that eats you up inside? Also, what is your "fashion type"?

I'm 20, and see post above for the answer to the 2nd question.

My fashion type depends on where I'm going obviously. If I'm going to the office I have to dress at least business-casual. If I'm at school then I guess I'll tend to wear DECENT jeans (i.e. slim and my own size, which fit on my waist and don't hang off my ass) or even better, normal pants. And no friggin' hats . I have the 'fro sometimes to give people a laugh but when I'm going out someplace I'll style it properly.

Is it so much to ask for people to put at least a modicum of effort into the way they look? I have just as much of a problem with the women who always go out in baggy shirts and track pants (yeah that's fine if they're RUNNING, but it's not something I'd wear to a fancy restaurant if I were in their shoes, which by the way, are often dirty running shoes). But I think the women often do that because, truthfully, they just don't have to try a lot of the time.


Posted by Rodrico on May-08-2004 17:01:

Ah, the mystery of the rugged slob player..I wouldnt know, im not a girl but if I had to take a best guess...the girl likes him for his personality, not his clothes.

What I wanna know is this, why is it every guy named Julian scores a hot chick!!!


Posted by Mebot on May-08-2004 17:05:

Your theory might be true....



Example: Britney Spears + guy who dresses like a slob






Posted by ShadoWolf on May-08-2004 17:18:

I am the anti-slob. I'm a metrosexual, European-style type.

I'm also single.

I think the theory has some merit.


Posted by ShadoWolf on May-08-2004 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Mebot
Your theory might be true....



Example: Britney Spears + guy who dresses like a slob








But she's a slob too, so it works.


Posted by Ripped Bag on May-08-2004 17:19:

I don't like the morons who wear the straight brimmed ball caps off to the side with a bandana underneath it.

I wear caps for function and they are usually either black or blue. No logos no nothing on them and I wear them so it provides shade for my face and eyes.

I don't think its the moronic hat the women are attracted but maybe the attitude "I don't care how stupid I look dressed like this, but I like what I'm wearing cause the homies think its cool".


*shrugs*


Posted by Mebot on May-08-2004 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
But she's a slob too, so it works.


touche... i was thinking about that irony as i was posting it... but it's the only picture of recent that I could remember a chick with a guy who has that sideways baseball cap and baggy clothes.


Posted by igottaknow on May-08-2004 17:26:

Re: Re: Slob appeal

quote:
Originally posted by Jiffy
My first question to you is, how old are you?
And, what about "baggy clothes and hats" is it that eats you up inside?

I was thinking the same thing.

don't hate the playa hate the game.






Posted by ShadoWolf on May-08-2004 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Mebot
touche... i was thinking about that irony as i was posting it... but it's the only picture of recent that I could remember a chick with a guy who has that sideways baseball cap and baggy clothes.


there's taht one with her and that guy on the beach, with a ton of paparazzi


Posted by dl_paul on May-08-2004 17:33:

Probably has something to do with the fact that girls think that guys that actually look decent are "trying" too hard, whereas the slobs appear to be nonchalant, indifferent and thus hot girls are unconsciously more attracted to them ?!?!
...I gave up trying to figure out girls a long time ago, but whatever the reason, Diginut has a point


Posted by Floorfiller on May-08-2004 17:39:

i've noticed this phenomenon as well. my insites:

1. women are atracted to what they believe to be "bad boys", which more than often turns out to be guys that look shitty. this is often affiliated with partying and random acts of stupidity.

2. this trend seems to become less powerful as women get older, because then their focus turns towards stability. those of us that actually care how we look win in the long run because of our non-slob status.

3. most of the girls that i've seen with those types of guys aren't really the type i would want to date. i won't generalize, but i don't think they would be good for a relationship.


Posted by Mebot on May-08-2004 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
there's taht one with her and that guy on the beach, with a ton of paparazzi


oh i didn't see that one.

ok


Posted by Omegasox on May-08-2004 18:03:

80% of the time I wear a cap when I go out. I'm just too lazy to do my hair right and then I don't have to worry about my hair getting messed up and shit when I'm out. Just serves its purpose, I don't think it has anything to do with being a "slob".

I don't get all decked out, but I don't dress all shitty, either. The typical Hollister/A&F kid you see at a college.


Posted by DigiNut on May-08-2004 18:03:

It's too early to call it a theory, since a theory would actually explain WHY the phenomenon is observed. This is really just an observation.

We're getting a little presumptuous here assuming that any of these guys are "players", don't you think? I don't even know for sure that these guys are actually getting any action, I just SEE them with those girls all the time.

And that's really the point of the question - it's not whether or not the girls like the guys or their personalities or whatever, it's why they'd want to go out and be seen in public with total slobs. It reflects badly on them, I think. All of my friends ask the same kind of question when we see it - "Geez, what is she doing with that idiot, he must be her drug dealer or something." I also think it would be wrong to say that they are the "don't care what anybody thinks" type, because they obviously very clearly care what their homies think, otherwise they wouldn't dress like that.

I have a strong suspicion that they are not players at all, and that they are just easy prey for the girls in terms of getting someone to take them out, pay for their shit, etc. But that remains to be proven obviously.


Posted by Floorfiller on May-08-2004 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
It's too early to call it a theory, since a theory would actually explain WHY the phenomenon is observed. This is really just an observation.

We're getting a little presumptuous here assuming that any of these guys are "players", don't you think? I don't even know for sure that these guys are actually getting any action, I just SEE them with those girls all the time.

And that's really the point of the question - it's not whether or not the girls like the guys or their personalities or whatever, it's why they'd want to go out and be seen in public with total slobs. It reflects badly on them, I think. All of my friends ask the same kind of question when we see it - "Geez, what is she doing with that idiot, he must be her drug dealer or something." I also think it would be wrong to say that they are the "don't care what anybody thinks" type, because they obviously very clearly care what their homies think, otherwise they wouldn't dress like that.

I have a strong suspicion that they are not players at all, and that they are just easy prey for the girls in terms of getting someone to take them out, pay for their shit, etc. But that remains to be proven obviously.


that's a good point, they could very easily use them.


Posted by ShadoWolf on May-08-2004 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i've noticed this phenomenon as well. my insites:

1. women are atracted to what they believe to be "bad boys", which more than often turns out to be guys that look shitty. this is often affiliated with partying and random acts of stupidity.

2. this trend seems to become less powerful as women get older, because then their focus turns towards stability. those of us that actually care how we look win in the long run because of our non-slob status.

3. most of the girls that i've seen with those types of guys aren't really the type i would want to date. i won't generalize, but i don't think they would be good for a relationship.


Exactly.

What we need is the Grand Unifying Theory of Relationships which ties what you wrote above to Ladder Theory.


Posted by nrjizer on May-08-2004 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
Ah, the mystery of the rugged slob player..I wouldnt know, im not a girl but if I had to take a best guess...the girl likes him for his personality, not his clothes.


Hahahaha, going for someone like that is like going to McDonalds for a fancy sit down meal (apologies to those who dress that way but who still manage to maintain some common sense and intelligence - I know I certainly have my share of baggy cargo sweats).

I just dress in whatever feels good. I like loose fitting clothes - not 5 sizes too big hanging off your ass, but loose, and baggy. Usually jeans, tho cargo sweat pants rock. Some of them look very thugged out if you wear an xxl shirt with them like an idiot would, but with a nice fitting T shirt they look pimp and are comfier than anything else in the world. Perfect travelling clothes. I don't try and look like anything other than what _I_ like. If girls either love it or hate it... well that fine with me, I couldn't care less. I don't dress myself up into someone I'm not to attract a dumb hoe who's personality is probably as fake as my cheap watch.


Posted by Vivid Boy on May-08-2004 18:35:

Re: Slob appeal

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DigiNut
[FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#99CCEE]It's time for another one of my patented rants. This was actually inspired by something Orbax wrote in another thread about people who don't know how to dress themselves and wear baggy clothes and sideways hats and so on... I want an honest answer here, preferably from females but anyone who knows is welcome to respond:

Why is it that every time I see a drop-dead gorgeous girl who happens to be with a guy, the guy is wearing a FUCKING BASEBALL CAP? Seriously, EVERY guy I see with a beautiful woman in this city has a goddamn HAT on. Do I have to wear one of those pieces of crap to get attention?

And on top of that, the angle of the hat seems to be directly proportional to just how far above average the girl is (i.e. the more sideways the hat, the more beautiful the girl). WHY? At what point in the history of this proud nation did it become respectable or even tolerable to dress like a slob? To me, a hat would seem to indicate that the person wearing it either cannot or is simply not willing to do a half-decent job washing/combing his hair in the morning, and just throws that thing on so people can't see the mop on his head. Yes, that MAY not be the reason they wear it, but it's like the girls who look like they showered in make-up, you just have to wonder what's hiding under it.

I realize this probably sounds ridiculous but it's honestly true. I just picked up on it a few weeks ago and have been paying attention since then, and it's seriously unreal how many jaw-dropping hotties hang around with guys with HATS on and just generally look like absolute slobs. I'm not basing this on 3 or 4 couples as some of you are probably thinking, I have seen this phenomenon AT LEAST 50 times in the past few weeks and almost never seen the opposite (i.e. the same thing with a well-dressed, well-off guy). This is not the same as the "bad boy" appeal either which I used to see when I was younger - these people do not look dangerous, they just look like idiots. I only weigh 140 but I know I could kick their asses in a heartbeat.

So let's hear it, is "slob" the "in"-fashion now? It makes me want to retch thinking about wearing ripped baggy jeans down to my ass along with a losing team's sport jersey and a sideways cap, but the statistical evidence is piling up fast - apparently that's what I have to do around here to be "cool".






easy as this girls dig guys who arent uptigtht...guys who dont give a fuck....a guy whos too self concious and thinks everyone is looking at whats wrong with his hair or the clothes hes wearing usually end up in last..its abt confidence


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