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Posted by skytribe on May-11-2004 19:22:

UK Hard House synths?

Alright... I love some of the typical UKHH synth sounds. I just can't figure out how to create some of them. Tips, anyone?

Posted by xls on May-11-2004 19:31:

The original "hoover" was a preset on the Roland Alpha Juno 2. I've also created one on the Alpha Juno 1 (which can be had for pretty cheap) with good results. Just have a look around for hoover samples - there's tons of stabs floating around out there. Load them up into your sampler and away you go.

Posted by skytribe on May-11-2004 19:49:

I'd prefer to try and recreate those stabby sounds if possible. I don't like using samples, partly for copyright reasons, but mostly because of the lack of control over the sound.

Posted by KilldaDJ on May-11-2004 21:15:

refx junox2 produces some hoovery sounds

Posted by xls on May-11-2004 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by skytribe
I'd prefer to try and recreate those stabby sounds if possible. I don't like using samples, partly for copyright reasons, but mostly because of the lack of control over the sound.

with one-hit notes, copyrights are not an issue. (if you were to sample an entire riff, then you'd be looking at copyrights.)

The ReFX Juno X2 is OK, but not fantastic. It doesn't compare to the real alpha sound.

With the right hoover samples and a good sampler, you'll have almost as much control over the sound as you would with the real thing. (Alpha Junos aren't known for their modulation matrix)

Posted by Mossy on May-11-2004 21:29:

great thread, im working on something thats dying for a hoover right now. I have a sampled hoover riff im using as a base line (not bass line) currently, but im looking for something VSTi to emulate that darkness found in current UK HH. So far I have come up pretty much blank, bar one evil tweak to a hoover patch I made in the JunoX2.

There used to be a hoover site going around, but it seems down these days. Probably one shot stabs are the way to go for sampling hoovers and making your riff, hard house isnt really that melodic anyway so you can get away with an arrangement purely of well placed stabs, although you have to be a lot more innovative with it than a few years back.

Posted by skytribe on May-11-2004 21:43:

Thanks for the help, guys

Thing is, I want to use those stabby sounds ina trance track... hrmm.

Posted by enferno on May-11-2004 23:28:

if you use Reason 2.5, I have a recreation of a hoover that i made i can send you.

just PM me

Posted by dj prometheus on May-12-2004 00:42:

I got a hoover kit I made for ya with like 15 hoovers in it.If you e-mail me at [email protected] I can hook ya up.I also threw in some doinks and some other hardhouse sounds too.This goes for anyone here as well.I also have some great sounds for hardtrance as well.E-mail me for those too as I won't really mind.I love to share.