Good way to program drums using Cubase & Reason

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Posted by Subtle on May-12-2004 19:46:

Good way to program drums using Cubase & Reason

open Cubase, open Reason, rewire them.

Make the desired drumloop with the "drum machine" in Re-drum, using the desired samples, velocity etc.
when ur done, use the "copy to track" function.. export the track as a MIDI file, import it too Cubase and choose the Redrum in Cubase, now u can edit and re-arrange the drums in Cubase instead of Reason...

for me it was a revelation, but did I really invent the wheel?

Posted by Tranc3 on May-12-2004 19:49:

Been doing that for a while now without exporting the midi...I find Redrum's classic drum machine interface easier to use than drawing notes in the drum editor in Cubase.

Posted by Subtle on May-12-2004 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
Been doing that for a while now without exporting the midi...I find Redrum's classic drum machine interface easier to use than drawing notes in the drum editor in Cubase.
that is the point u dont have to draw any notes, but how do u arrange the drums using only the drum machine..? that seems a little tricky..

Posted by DeZmA on May-12-2004 20:01:

funny to see how the x0x sequencing will never die..
it's the best and the most creative for drums imo

Posted by Tranc3 on May-12-2004 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
that is the point u dont have to draw any notes, but how do u arrange the drums using only the drum machine..? that seems a little tricky..

It's a hell of a lot more intuivite than figuring out where to place the notes in Cubase's drum editor. For me anyways.

Posted by Subtle on May-12-2004 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
It's a hell of a lot more intuivite than figuring out where to place the notes in Cubase's drum editor. For me anyways.
U dont have to place any notes in Cubase drum editor when u export the MIDI from the re-drum, when you import the MIDI-file in Cubase, all the notes will be drawed excactly and sound excactly like they did in the Drum-machine..

Posted by Tranc3 on May-13-2004 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
U dont have to place any notes in Cubase drum editor when u export the MIDI from the re-drum, when you import the MIDI-file in Cubase, all the notes will be drawed excactly and sound excactly like they did in the Drum-machine..

Well right but you said you can "edit and re-arrange the drums in Cubase instead of Reason." If you're going to use Cubase's editor, then why involve Reason at all? If you're going to use Redrum to program the notes, why bother with the MIDI export? That's what I don't get.

Posted by Spin Doctor on May-13-2004 00:25:

Redrum is one of Reasons real strengths. Wire up a Redrum to a mixer with a channel for each drum and use the send effects of the mixer to add your reverb etc. Offers loads of control and power.

Posted by josh on May-13-2004 02:15:

Oh. I learnt something today by giving me a thought of that. Thanks to all for the 'tips' of rewire something like that.

But let's say that I'm using a Drum machine *Jomox Airbase*, do I actually need to use Drum Editor to draw the note? Because I always use piano roll or it is very versatile to use any of it? Need guidance. (sorry for off topic) Cheers

Posted by EliPsE on May-13-2004 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
funny to see how the x0x sequencing will never die..
it's the best and the most creative for drums imo

what is x0x?

Posted by Tranc3 on May-13-2004 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by EliPsE
what is x0x?

808, 909, etc..

Posted by DeZmA on May-13-2004 07:07:

quote:
Originally posted by EliPsE
what is x0x?

What most sequencer call "grid" sequencing, you have a particular number of steps in one measure (16/32 or 12/24), you choose a sound and put them on the "grid".

Originally invented by roland (I think :conf
tr 909, tr 808, ... all have grid recording onboard and even now, there are a lot of drumboxes that have this style of sequencing onboard.

Posted by EliPsE on May-13-2004 08:19:

thnx for the explanation

Posted by Spin Doctor on May-14-2004 01:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
What most sequencer call "grid" sequencing, you have a particular number of steps in one measure (16/32 or 12/24), you choose a sound and put them on the "grid".

Originally invented by roland (I think :conf
tr 909, tr 808, ... all have grid recording onboard and even now, there are a lot of drumboxes that have this style of sequencing onboard.

Step Sequencing.

Posted by DeZmA on May-14-2004 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Doctor
Step Sequencing.

Step sequencing is the name of everything that is not recording in realtime. Grid sequencing is one of the many possibilities to record in steps but it is the most popular on drumboxes...

Posted by Sebraa on May-14-2004 07:53:

But why? I let the drum parts into REASON!
Is there any special reason to export drums to MIDI and then import to Cubase .. so much work to do

Posted by Spin Doctor on May-15-2004 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA

Step sequencing is the name of everything that is not recording in realtime. Grid sequencing is one of the many possibilities to record in steps but it is the most popular on drumboxes...

Are you sure, I always though that step sequencing was the name for the Roland interface? Hmm, I shall do some googling to see.