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Posted by goonerjack on May-12-2004 23:07:

Binary Finary

Just wondered what the deal with them is

1998, 1999 and 2000 are all amazing tracks... did all they ever do is create one track and then remix it every year?

Also where are they now?


Posted by subuddha on May-12-2004 23:16:

dont know, according to discogs the track niterider was released a few years ago but i havent heard it.

http://www.discogs.com/release/21410

according to discogs it is Ricky Garnt who is behind the name. others say that Matt Laws is in there as well. they could have recorded other stuff under a different namem but none that i know of. i dont think they have, otherwise it would probably be "general knowledge" since 1998 is such a classic.


Posted by montana on May-12-2004 23:47:

binary finary = matt laws (also with ricky grant in 1998)
and actually, 1999 & 2000 can't be counted as real tracks as the remixers remixed 1998 and the tracks was released as 1999 in 99 and 2000 in 2000
the "original mix" of 2000 that is found on a cdm released on orbit records is the original version of 1998, just labled so it'd fit nicely with the other tracks
(http://www.discogs.com/release/26733)


but, the all the original works he did was 1998, zapya* , anthemic part1, anthemic part2, niterider, about time**, cryogen***

http://www.discogs.com/release/24279
http://www.discogs.com/release/192277
http://www.discogs.com/release/21410
http://www.discogs.com/release/120783
http://www.discogs.com/release/46427
http://www.discogs.com/release/112250


*b-side to the first 12" that 1998 appeared on
**b-side to 12" with the pvd mix of 1998
***b-side to the 1999 remixes

funny thing, i've read this somewhere on pvd's site, paul remixed the track for positiva, but aquarius records liked the remix so much so they bootlegged the remix and pressed it. i'm maybe wrong about the label
also, 1998 was release #98 for positiva

edit, altered a thing
edit2, added a thing


Posted by starglider on May-12-2004 23:50:

They didn't remix it every year. It's the same track and was originally named 1998. Subsequent remixes by other producers over the next couple years were released as 1998,1999 or 2000 depending on when they were put out. And yes, they have a track called Niterider which is quite nice although not as anthemic as 1998. It also featured a Ca-Lo remix which takes it into deeper, tribally territory. In addition they did Cryogen, which appeared on the b-side of one of the many 199x presses. I believe there were other b-side tracks but I have yet to hear any. Discogs probably mentions it, and also would list their various remixes which range from good to excellent.

edit ^ what he said


Posted by goonerjack on May-13-2004 00:04:

Thanks for that... so in fact Matt Laws only produced 1998... and 1999 & 2000 were just other people's remixes? How come they aren't labelled Binary Finary - 1999 (x's remix) for example?

Also, montana... where you say...

"the "original mix" of 2000 is the original version of 1998, just labled so it'd fit"

does this mean basically that 2000 (orginal mix) = 1998?

Thanks for the info guys

Are any of their other songs worth checking out?


Posted by montana on May-13-2004 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by goonerjack
Thanks for that... so in fact Matt Laws only produced 1998... and 1999 & 2000 were just other people's remixes? How come they aren't labelled Binary Finary - 1999 (x's remix) for example?

Also, montana... where you say...

"the "original mix" of 2000 is the original version of 1998, just labled so it'd fit"

does this mean basically that 2000 (orginal mix) = 1998?

Thanks for the info guys

Are any of their other songs worth checking out?

for the first question, uhhm, i have no idea actually, the gouryella remix has been labled like this binary finary - 1998 ('99 gouryella remix), i think it's the labels that decided that.

and second, yes

also, cryogen & niterider is decent tracks


Posted by starglider on May-13-2004 00:33:

Check out their remixes, particularly these two:

UKW - Hypnotic (Binary Finary Remix)
Arrakis - The Spice (Binary Finary Remix)

Stormers.


Posted by trancebrat on May-13-2004 04:29:

Re: Binary Finary

quote:
Originally posted by goonerjack
Just wondered what the deal with them is

1998, 1999 and 2000 are all amazing tracks... did all they ever do is create one track and then remix it every year?

Also where are they now?



1998 was an ok track. It was better when Matt Darey remixed it. It was the shit when PvD remixed it.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-13-2004 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by goonerjack
Thanks for that... so in fact Matt Laws only produced 1998... and 1999 & 2000 were just other people's remixes? How come they aren't labelled Binary Finary - 1999 (x's remix) for example?

Also, montana... where you say...

"the "original mix" of 2000 is the original version of 1998, just labled so it'd fit"

does this mean basically that 2000 (orginal mix) = 1998?

Thanks for the info guys

Are any of their other songs worth checking out?


1999 and 2000 were basically rereleases. 1999 was the 99 release with Gouryella and Kaycee remixes, and 2000 was the 00 release with DuMonde remix. There is no original mix for 1999 or 2000, it would just be 1998.


Posted by montana on May-13-2004 17:44:

1998 remixers:
matt darey
paul van dyk
binary finary
dave ralph

1999 remixers
gouryella
kaycee
marc et claude

2000:
dumonde

2003:
ronski speed
released as 1998 (ronski speed remix) as part with the positiva remixed compliations

remakes & remixes (that was not ordered by postiva/orbit/aquarius)
neo & farina - binary refined
binary finary vs. rhythm masters - 2003 (in ibiza!)
kontakt - show me a sign

1998 was also ripped off later on

tracks that uses elements from 1998:
mauro picotto - lizard
future breeze - mind in motion
parker & clind - generator
futura legend - restless nature (signum mix/tim j mix)

*taken from this *taken from this thread

edit: some alterations


Posted by starglider on May-13-2004 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
also 1998 has been heacily ripped of in one way or another
mauro picotto - lizard
future breeze - mind in motion
parker & clind - generator
futura legend - restless nature (signum mix/tim j mix)


Lizard is certainly similar and I haven't heard that Future Breeze track, but the Parker & Clind and Futura Legend ones certainly don't "rip off" Binary Finary.


Posted by dj tek on May-13-2004 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by starglider
Futura Legend don't "rip off" Binary Finary.


i dont know if was intentional or not but listen to the Signum remix, it resembles 1998 a bit.


Posted by montana on May-13-2004 18:23:

don't blame me i just copied those from the producers ripping of each other thread


Posted by Froofy-D on May-13-2004 19:10:

UKW Hypnotic(lange remix) = one of the best trance tunes ever.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-13-2004 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
tracks that uses elements from 1998:
mauro picotto - lizard


What? Lizard sounds nothing like 1998. What mix are we talking about here?


Posted by montana on May-13-2004 19:39:

it has the same chord progression as 1998


Posted by starglider on May-13-2004 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What? Lizard sounds nothing like 1998. What mix are we talking about here?


Uh, Lizard definitely does. Listen to the break in the Megavoices mix.


Posted by DJ-RED on May-13-2004 20:05:

And "1998" is actually from 1997


Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-13-2004 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by starglider
Uh, Lizard definitely does. Listen to the break in the Megavoices mix.


Gah... so many mixes of this bloody track. It would help if Picotto didn't name all his mixes on his tracks the same.


Posted by spec on May-14-2004 00:03:

I had to replace my previous binary finary record cause it had had the dick, and I just bought binary finary 2004. No real difference.


Posted by mike_stefan69 on May-14-2004 08:59:

also check out atlantis vs. avatar - fiji - binary finary did 2 mixes, one called "binary finary future mix" and one called "binary finary breaks mix"


Posted by Trance Effect on Sep-19-2004 23:08:

Neo & Farina - Binary Refined


Posted by TranceSpeeder on Sep-20-2004 03:00:

ahhh "1998" the first tune that got me into trance. such a classic!



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