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Posted by capricorn15 on May-16-2004 15:38:

Microsoft screws Users with pirated versions of XP

Not sure if this one was posted up, as i hadn't seen it in the past few days, apparently users with pirated versions will not be able to install this service pack. guess we have to wait and see

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Microsoft this week denied reports that Windows XP Service Pack 2, which includes extensive security fixes, will be available for users running pirated versions of Windows.
The Asian Computer Times recently reported that Microsoft will make SP2 available to all users.
The publication quotes Barry Goffe, Microsoft Group Product Manager: "It was a tough choice, but we finally decided that even if someone has pirated copy of Windows, it is more important to keep him safe than it is to be concerned about the revenue issue ... Having these unsecured users means bigger worm and virus outbreaks - which also impacts the Internet and consequently, our legitimate users as well."

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said last month that Microsoft makes security patches available to all users, even pirates, as a means of limiting the spread of viruses and worms.

But Microsoft said this week that SP2 will, before installation, check the operating system's Product ID against a list of known pirated PIDs. If the operating system comes up as illegitimate, the update won't install.

A Microsoft spokeswoman said in e-mail: "Using genuine software is an important part of keeping systems secure and running smoothly, because it means continued access to the latest security enhancements and product updates. Licensed versions of Windows XP, coupled with the upcoming Service Pack 2, will represent Microsoft's most secure desktop operating system."

The spokeswoman declined to comment further.

Analyst Rob Enderle said Microsoft could not afford to allow pirates to use the patches, despite the potential benefit to all users. "One of Microsoft's value propositions for purchasing the software rather than stealing it is that you can get patches and support. They don't want to break the value proposition. They are not in the business of free software," Enderle said.

Supporting pirated software could also open Microsoft to legal liability.

Microsoft Windows XP SP2, which is due out in late summer, is a comprehensive update to Windows that includes fixes to network utilities to make them less vulnerable to attack, and a new security control panel designed to help beginners keep their computers secure.

SP2 is also designed to help ameliorate a major reason why viruses and worms spread: users fail to install patches against the malicious code in a timely fashion. SP2 reconfigures windows so that subsequent security patches will automatically be downloaded and installed. The automatic updating can be switched off by users, but Microsoft hopes that more users will install the updates if installing updates is the default behavior for Windows.


Posted by jon on May-16-2004 15:43:

service pack 1 which was released a while back would not install on priated coppies, as do two updates where they trialed checking if the software was pirated or not.

a few days after cracks appeared for service pack 1 geting around the product id check, im sure a similar thing will happen to service pack 2, not that i support software pirarcy though. (just go linux!)


Posted by capricorn15 on May-16-2004 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by jon
service pack 1 which was released a while back would not install on priated coppies, as do two updates where they trialed checking if the software was pirated or not.

a few days after cracks appeared for service pack 1 geting around the product id check, im sure a similar thing will happen to service pack 2, not that i support software pirarcy though. (just go linux!)

ah i wasnt aware that they had cracks for the service packs too, haha.


Posted by yujie__ on May-16-2004 16:37:

this is last week old news. i still have lots of keys just in case and a legal version just for backup


Posted by smokeape on May-16-2004 16:46:

Pirated versions should have a valid key, if not, then BWAHAHHAAAAA! What do you expect?

I'll neither confirm nor deny I run any pirated software....




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Posted by Boomer187 on May-16-2004 16:47:

the funny thing is that there is usually a cracked version of the service pack out before microshit releases theirs.

nice try gates, maybe next time.


Posted by Orbax on May-16-2004 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by hadi ******
ah i wasnt aware that they had cracks for the service packs too, haha.


there is a video called winxp sp1.exe that shows how to change your SID and allows SP1 to install.

and uhh,... I find that to be terrible!


Posted by Sean Walsh on May-16-2004 17:15:

They're probably doing this to scare people into buying a legit version. There are lots of people that know nothing about software piracy or where to find pirated software that are running a pirated version of XP, so I bet this sort of announcement is aimed at those people.


Posted by smokeape on May-16-2004 17:52:

Get a KEYGEN if needed...


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Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on May-16-2004 17:52:

im currently having a problem with XP pro i have a copied version with service pack 1, and its asking me to activate and im now on my last day before windows bollockses up. can anyone help me?


Posted by Rostros on May-16-2004 18:13:

they should be paying me money for all these ghey worms that keep comming out. Spit.


Rostros looks towards the Unix Lights


Posted by Boomer187 on May-16-2004 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
im currently having a problem with XP pro i have a copied version with service pack 1, and its asking me to activate and im now on my last day before windows bollockses up. can anyone help me?





you can't be serious


Posted by Massive84 on May-16-2004 18:26:

what is a service pack :S


Posted by getfoul on May-16-2004 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
im currently having a problem with XP pro i have a copied version with service pack 1, and its asking me to activate and im now on my last day before windows bollockses up. can anyone help me?
set back your computer date manually


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on May-16-2004 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by getfoul
set back your computer date manually


lmfao





but seriously does that work ?


Posted by Orbax on May-16-2004 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
lmfao





but seriously does that work ?


no


Posted by Boomer187 on May-16-2004 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
no


even if you set the bios clock back and then instal???//


Posted by igottaknow on May-16-2004 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by yujie__
this is last week old news. i still have lots of keys just in case and a legal version just for backup

why would you buy a legit version of XP as a backup and use a pirated version? Are you an idiot?


Posted by Tranc3 on May-16-2004 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
im currently having a problem with XP pro i have a copied version with service pack 1, and its asking me to activate and im now on my last day before windows bollockses up. can anyone help me?


*cough*astalavista.box.sk search for reset 5.0 *cough*


Posted by DJ FC on May-16-2004 20:21:

All hell is going to break loose with the release of SP2.

Once expirienced hackers get a look at it, they will know XPs security risks beforehand, and be able to attack machines that do not have SP2. If SP2 is not given to illicit coppies of XP, that would mean that half of all machines in Asia will be unprotected (or something like that, I read that Asia has the highest rate of pirated OSs)


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on May-16-2004 21:33:

i think i got it sorted.

orbax that video thingy, apparently that does work, sandstorm03 told me in irc how to get round it, i trie it then watched the vid and it was the same method.
i just need a valid cd key, the one lee gave me made about 200 activate now notifications pop up. and also it changed the 'days left' thingy to change to sumthing stupid like 5083895 days left [no shit] one of the most fucked up things ive ever seen, but still says 6 days left, but i need a valid cd key and them on cracks.am and all that never work... help a brother out y'all


Posted by KilldaDJ on May-16-2004 21:57:

good software shouldnt need service packs

microsoft have more holes in their software than a fucking sieve.


Posted by Boomer187 on May-16-2004 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
good software shouldnt need service packs

microsoft have more holes in their software than a fucking sieve.


realise that since the majority of computer users use microsoft, that is was exploiters and the like will target. if we all used linux or something else they will just concentrate on their exploits.



its a vicious cycle actually.


Posted by Boomer187 on May-16-2004 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
i think i got it sorted.

orbax that video thingy, apparently that does work, sandstorm03 told me in irc how to get round it, i trie it then watched the vid and it was the same method.
i just need a valid cd key, the one lee gave me made about 200 activate now notifications pop up. and also it changed the 'days left' thingy to change to sumthing stupid like 5083895 days left [no shit] one of the most fucked up things ive ever seen, but still says 6 days left, but i need a valid cd key and them on cracks.am and all that never work... help a brother out y'all


are you still on irc?


Posted by DigiNut on May-16-2004 22:11:

quote:
"They are not in the business of free software," Enderle said.

That's just great. Apparently they're not in the business of functional software, either.

http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...FSP1FixList.asp

325 bugs since the first release, and those are just the ones that Microsoft has discovered and gone public with, not including those that have been addressed by hotfixes or simply haven't been addressed at all, and not including all the newly discovered bugs that will supposedly be fixed in SP2.

And yet their execs still have the chutzpah to tell us that we aren't even buying software from them, we're just buying a license to operate their software. Did I miss some really important event in the history of US and Canadian law, an event such as the unilateral federal invalidation of the First Sale Rule?

Well then - since we're technically buying a service from them as opposed to a product, as they themselves claim, then they should have to follow the same rules as every other service provider and issue credits and/or refunds when that service is interrupted. Any legal experts wanna take a stab at that one?


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