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I can't believe this!
I was reading The Times at the gym today (they don�t get the Indy), and read this article. In my opinion, this is disgusting. I can�t believe that this should be allowed to happen. I�m not just saying this because I don�t agree with the drugs classification system in this country, but because I honestly see this as an infringement on human rights. Anyway here�s the article, I�m interested to see what you lot have to say about it.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printF...1114544,00.html
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| Schools let loose the dogs in war on drugs By Richard Ford, Home Correspondent DOGS are visiting at least 100 secondary schools in England and Wales to search pupils for drugs, particularly cannabis. In some areas a private security firm is providing dogs and handlers to check children. Although they are more used to working in pubs and clubs, the dogs are a regular feature of school life. The rapid rise in their use comes three months after the Department for Education and Skills sent guidance to head teachers saying that schools were within their rights to use sniffer dogs but should exercise extreme caution in case it leads to �labelling� that might be damaging to pupils. Sniffer dogs are viewed by some head teachers and governors as a softer option than random drug tests. Most searches are carried out by police, but the dogs and handlers of Grosvenor International Services operate in 14 Oxfordshire schools. Kent, Staffordshire and Buckinghamshire are three other counties where police drug dogs visit schools. The Heart of England secondary school in Solihull has used dogs twice to search the bags and coats of pupils. Annette Croft, the head teacher, said that there had been unease among some pupils when they were lined up to be sniffed by the dogs. She told Druglink magazine that the exercise was �a very mellow, humane and civilised response to the threat of drugs�. Parents were asked to sign a letter of consent to the searches, which is usual in most schools where dogs are used. Any pupils who do not consent are searched by hand. Only four pupils were picked out, including one who provided information about cannabis smoking on the school bus. There are concerns about allowing dogs into schools. Some teachers fear that it risks creating distrust between pupils and driving drug problems underground. Emma Balchin, a schools drug adviser in Wolverhampton, told Druglink that often the use of dogs was one way that a school could show worried parents that it was taking a hard line. The Home Office said last night that the number of arrests for cannabis possession has fallen since the drug was reclassified this year. Ministers said that the move was �encouraging� but they were unable to produce any figures to back up the claim. |
they should just deal pills then
sniffer dogs can't smell them 
hrmmmm..not sure about this. kids shouldn't really have cannabis on them at school, just like fags. if they can deter it from getting into the play grounds, i sorta think they should do what they can. but then, because i am so ashamed of this government, i think it is an infringement. but thats typical of any left wing government quite honestly. if you want to vote left, this is inevitable.
yeh i posted the article on the drugs tests a while ago.
however this is different, i think you are stupid if you take drugs into school, probably those who do are scummy raggers or idiots anyway (they were at mine). but it is an infringment, but i cant disagree with it because well, the reason istated above 
but drugs tests are bad because its up to the person themself what they do outside of shcool. IMO
While I do agree, you are stupid if you take drugs into school, but using sniffer dogs to root them out? Jesus Christ that�s obscene. This doesn�t at all show a hard line approach, it shows an inability to grasp the realities of a problem and deal with it in a sensible way. I mean, what happens to kids who get found with something, are they expelled?
i will be the first to admit, i have taken cannabis to school many times. it isn't the right thing to do, just like drinking at school isn't.. if you are going to do that kind of stuff then it should be out of school hours (i was naughty).
but at the same time, i think its dogshit that they think they need to do this.. i mean the problem in a particular school must be really bad for it to get to this..?
with regards to the drugs tests, if they are going to do that, then why don't they breathalise you when you walk into school..?
its ridiculous, alcohol is more of a problem in teenagers than drugs.
i kinda agree with toni. i mean if i wanted to smoke weed at that age i wouldn't be doing it at school, and i wouldn't be carrying at school either.
what's wrong with keeping that out of the playground?
To be honest, i think it is all part of growing up experimenting with cannibis and it does not mean you will go on2 bigger things. The Government should stop wasting time and money catching little kids with say an eigth of dope, instead why dont they spend the money on catching the suppliers of the large amounts instead of ruining childrens lives by givin em drugs records(in some cases) 4 a bit of marajuana.
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| Originally posted by Alena18uk To be honest, i think it is all part of growing up experimenting with cannibis and it does not mean you will go on2 bigger things. The Government should stop wasting time and money catching little kids with say an eigth of dope, instead why dont they spend the money on catching the suppliers of the large amounts instead of ruining childrens lives by givin em drugs records(in some cases) 4 a bit of marajuana. |
I took pot in2 school with me a copuple of times but never smoked it there just 2 scared 2 leave it at home incase my parents found it lol
I understand what ur sayin but normally its just a phase i ound it does not continue throughout school!
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| Originally posted by Alena18uk I took pot in2 school with me a copuple of times but never smoked it there just 2 scared 2 leave it at home incase my parents found it lol I understand what ur sayin but normally its just a phase i ound it does not continue throughout school! |
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| Originally posted by swisstoni thats really cool you know people that have had a 'phase' with it. its unusal in my experience... |
I never done it in school, didnt see the point
I never did any drugs of any kind while on school premises, but knew of people who did (even at my �posh� grammar school) and at times took things in, for one reason or another. Now that I�m older, if I was in the same position again, there�s no chance in a thousand years I�d do it again. Now I know that it was totally stupid, and not something that I should have done, but at the time I didn�t, nor do the majority of school age children. Do we really want to single out children in front of others a label them as �druggie� etc, possibly impacting them for the rest of their lives, for what will probably be minor drug misdemeanours?
Just to clarify my position on this whole matter: I�m not saying that kids who use drugs in school shouldn�t be suitably punished, and for that matter anyone caught dealing on school grounds, but using sniffer dogs to do them for possession on the premises is going to far, as is random testing.
Anyway I could go on about this for hours, but the Bill is on so -->
i think there is a clear difference that needs to be shown between people having it in their pockets for a spliff on the way home, to actually caning it in school, and i think a lot of people do jusdt stick it in their pockets and take it with them just so their mum & dad dont find out...
as i said, i used to take ganja to school with me, but i didnt just stick it in my pocket. i used to be stoned at schoolol all the time, and i tell you what.. it certainly didnt do me any favours.
i agree with toni, that school is a place for learning, and that people shouldn't be allowed into school with it on them, just as much as they shouldn't be allowed in with a beer (in my eyes, alcohol and ganja are very much the same).. but i also think that it is a waste of money taking sniffer dogs into schools to try and curb the problem. sniffer dogs on average last approximatly 10 minutes before their noses get all confused and they have to fuck off and lie down like a good dog. so that means, to do a good scan of all the pupils they will need to have a number of dogs in there quite a lot, which is more of a waste of tax payers money than the odd kid having a spliff behind the bike shed.
LMAO! Jeff, getting caned in school, bad boy. My misdemeanours were only ever collecting my weekend supply of sweeties on my Friday lunch break.
im sure its against Human Rights ??
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| Originally posted by irishclubbing im sure its against Human Rights ?? |
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