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Please help - Does anyone rate these?

I'm looking to start DJing (not 100% seriously)

Looking through the classified ads in the newspaper people are selling these, does anyone rate them?
Don't say 'save and get Technics 1200s', i've already had that discussion and decided against it.

The TTs are
Technics SLD2
Gemini SA 900

For beginner TTs, any good? (Compared with Stanton STR8-30s, what i'm most likely to be getting in a kit)

I've never heard of them before.

Never heard of them either. But a quick look @ google gave me this:



Sounds like a bad idea. The str8-30's aren't pretty good either. I think u'd better buy JbSystems High Q30's or something. They're not too expensive and worth it for a beginner who doesn't want to spend a fortune.

for a beginner, i think numark decks are great.. the bottom end are cheap and cheerful, and i always think its good to learn on shit decks as you have to spend a lot of time playing with the decks to get the pitch right, which when learning can only be good.

i started out with a numark package that consisted of 2 numark tt1650's, and a numark dm3000ex 3 channel mixer, all for about �400 which wasn't bad.. but if you get serious about it, eventually you will out-grow them, and want to buy a more expensive deck, like vestax pdx2000's or 1210's. it is true, if you pay moire, you get more and they last longer.

i don't like stantons either

stanton str8-30s? dont do it.

get at least the 80s, theyre pretty solid decks, theyve worked for me for 3 years, great to learn on. eventually, yes, you will grow out of them (i have on mine) but i dont have the money to upgrade, and i dont mind keeping them. they give me practice in case i ever play on some other person's shitty equip, and plus it makes club play easy as hell

see i dont get wat u mean by "beginner" turntables, is that supposed to mean that they're easier to use? cuz they wont be, if ne thing ur gonna have so much harder of a pain in the ass usin 2nd rate tts. did u think of 2nd hand techs?

Re: Please help - Does anyone rate these?

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter I'm looking to start DJing (not 100% seriously) Looking through the classified ads in the newspaper people are selling these, does anyone rate them? Don't say 'save and get Technics 1200s', i've already had that discussion and decided against it. The TTs are Technics SLD2 Gemini SA 900 For beginner TTs, any good? (Compared with Stanton STR8-30s, what i'm most likely to be getting in a kit) I've never heard of them before.

first of all, how much are you willing to fish out for a set?
but assuming you dont want to spend TOO much, then i would recommend the numark tt200's. direct drive, great toque, looks very sweet (imo), and quite a few TAs around here have them, too. you can get both for 300 + s/h. i think there might even be a set for sale in the forum.

before i got my tech 1200s (a mk2 and m3d), i SERIOUSLY thought about getting either the tt200 or tt500. my other, more expensive choices were the vestax pdx2000, numark ttx, and of course the 1200. but i guess it was pure coincidence and i found a great deal for the 1200s on ebay and went for it!

dont settle for that vintage table... it wasnt exactly built for mixing plus its harder to find replacement parts.

as for a mixer, it depends on what you are going to be doing... scratching/mixer/both. so yeah, look around, ask, go to a local store to try them out, and see!

hope this helped you a bit... and gl in your shopping!

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Originally posted by ESMdjm600 see i dont get wat u mean by "beginner" turntables, is that supposed to mean that they're easier to use? cuz they wont be, if ne thing ur gonna have so much harder of a pain in the ass usin 2nd rate tts. did u think of 2nd hand techs?

I think whats meant by beginner tables are the cheaper in price, lower end of the product range turntables

Go with the 2nd hand techs, I got one for $150 and one for $200 off EBay...can't beat that, you just gotta look around for the good deals. Anyway, I think you would be more satisfied with the 2nd hand techs than something like new Numark decks or something like that.

did u see the second hand technics the bloke was selling?

Funny how everyone ignores the fact that he doesnt want the friggin' techs :/

Don't u ppl know anything else :/

i didnt see him say ne thing about "2nd hand" techs which is wat we were askin

im more trying to understand the whole "beginner" philosophy.... like if someone asks u if u have techs, do u say "no they're too advanced for me" ?

Not everybody shits money u know... and he did say he didnt want technics... technics are technics, even if they're 2nd hand.

I wanted pro quality turntables & didn't shit money either so i got beyond the whole technics blah & bought me a pair of 'akiyama acura' turntables (clones of the stanton st-150's)... saved me about 350 euro's and in spite of reliability (they're a new kind so i can't tell) they have better specifications than the friggin techs.

Pretty much everyone here is getting 'em, dunno if they know 'em in the states.

ok well i didnt know he said ne thing about money limitations, if so i apoligize, but if he dont shit money, isnt he better off gettin the 2nd hand techs ne way cuz if he gets "beginner" decks hes eventually gonna have to spend the money on better equipment?

Yeah, but by the time he'll have to buy 'em maybe he'll have a job or something, u know. The investment is not only for the setup, but also for the records. Maybe he's pretty clear about spending 80% of his cash on the setup & 20% on records and all... at least that's what i did (90%-10% in my case)

if i would've bought techs i wouldn't have been able to buy records for quite a while

Anyway, People should be more open on trying new kinds of turntables. Technology evolves, not all non-technics turntables suck. The only reason they're still so massively sold is their reliability, where newer turntables just don't get a chance.

yea those were some good points u made, cant say i disagree with you..... lol i think we got off the point with our bullshit

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Originally posted by Wildfir3 Anyway, People should be more open on trying new kinds of turntables. Technology evolves, not all non-technics turntables suck. The only reason they're still so massively sold is their reliability, where newer turntables just don't get a chance.

prime example, i rate vestax pdx2000 turntables much higher than any 1210/00, they are �100 cheaper per deck. the deck doesn't fuck around, you can beatmatch (more) quickly and (just as) precisely with it, it has higher torque so it handles the record better (i.e. the platter doesnt lose any power when cueing and back cueing, and it isn't such a fiddly bastard to tweak), it came with a quartz motor straight away (instead of making it a bullshit excuse to add a number to it), it NEVER skips, and you can play absolutly anything without worrying if it will go fast/slow enough.

a 1210 is a deck. thats it, so why people bum them so much is a mystery to me.. fair enough they are a nice deck to use (they wouldn't have got as far as they have if it wasnt) but i truly think its time people stopped ramming them down peoples throats!

i think i've just gone on a tangent too... sorry

You're the man wildfir3, you're saying exactly what i meant.

I live in Australia, so even 2nd hand Techs cost around $1100-1400 for a pair. As Wildfir3 says, i don't shit money. Thats why i said i didn't want them.
I am a uni student, in 18 months will be graduated and earnin decent money

I am looking at some Numarks, my personal favs (never read anything bad about them) on ebay, but i think the price will go too high for me.

By beginner decks, i mean something to get started and are cheap.

Lets look at numbers... I am allowing $1000 to get started. The stanton spin cycle kit (STR8-30s, SMX-211) is $800, and am planning $100 bucks to start for vinyl, and that leaves $100 for new headphones (in the kit are shit)

Technics already said for......
Numark TT1650, new $500 each, used on ebay, hopefully 2 for $650,
Two Gemini SA900s for $500,

Everything here in Oz is expensive, and we don't have many brands such as Akiyamas (have heard good things about them). Not only that, to import is very expensive as well (we got some crazy import duties and customs taxes)

You rock Wildfir3, what a champ!
(and you're bullshit did help some, thanks everyone. More feedback will be welcome)

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Numark TT1650, new $500 each, used on ebay, hopefully 2 for $650, Two Gemini SA900s for $500, Everything here in Oz is expensive, and we don't have many brands such as Akiyamas (have heard good things about them). Not only that, to import is very expensive as well (we got some crazy import duties and customs taxes)

gutted.. that is expensive for numarks, over here, for the price you pay for 2 tt1650's is the same as what i paid for an entire package with mixer, headfones, slipmats & carts :/

The thing is, sometimes it's better to wait and get more money than spending it on a shitty turntable that you will have to replace.

So why don't you wait a few more months and buy something YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO REPLACE IN YOUR LIFE (*crosses fingers*) than spending a load of cash on something you will replace after a year for sure?

Just search around in this subforum and you will find lots of people who invested in "begginer" turntables and regreted it afterwards.

hey just fuck it all man, if u discover a love for music in a way u never had before and its worth pursuin, it dont fuckin matter, just do wat u have to do

oh god here we go again

he says he only wants to fuck around a bit, just for fun and not 100% seriously. That's why low quality beginner turntables will do just fine

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