Pendulum - Live at Renegade Hardware

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Posted by cap on May-19-2004 18:08:

Pendulum - Live at Renegade Hardware

Posted by Pio on May-19-2004 18:09:

Pendulum's awesome. Are you talking about a specific set? What date?

Posted by cap on May-19-2004 18:11:

Yeah man, specific set. Live at Renegade hardware

Rip date: Apr-30-2004

sick set...woaaaaaaaah

Posted by Electronicapo1 on May-19-2004 18:22:

Have heard... i think these guys are slightly overated, but still good.

Posted by djthunderbird on May-19-2004 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Electronicapo1
Have heard... i think these guys are slightly overated, but still good.

naah.. just give a listen to "the vault" and you'll see that they are not overrated

Posted by Pio on May-19-2004 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by djthunderbird
naah.. just give a listen to "the vault" and you'll see that they are not overrated

Vault is to dnb what ATRC is to trance. Way overplayed but still a goodie. Pendulum and Concord Dawn are the producers of the moment.

Posted by Electronicapo1 on May-19-2004 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by djthunderbird
naah.. just give a listen to "the vault" and you'll see that they are not overrated

vault is an amazing song that takes itself into diffrent places in one peice. Its very good, but its overated. Personaly i think their newer stuff is alot better then vault... Another Planet / Voyager, 12" (Breakbeat Kaos)

Posted by Electronicapo1 on May-19-2004 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
Vault is to dnb what ATRC is to trance. Way overplayed but still a goodie. Pendulum and Concord Dawn are the producers of the moment.

Mourning Light was like at the top of my playlist for weeks. The problem with Concord Dawn is its the cheese of the drum and bass world. but i still like it.

Posted by Pio on May-19-2004 19:17:

their remix of Fresh-Submarines sucks though. the original is my original dnb track ever.

Posted by Pio on May-19-2004 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Electronicapo1
Mourning Light was like at the top of my playlist for weeks. The problem with Concord Dawn is its the cheese of the drum and bass world. but i still like it.

sure it's cheese. but this is a trance site, we're supposed to like cheese.

Posted by Electronicapo1 on May-19-2004 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
sure it's cheese. but this is a trance site, we're supposed to like cheese.

sounds like there is a whole world of trance you have yet to discover... My only argument is how can drum and bass be cheese??? its hard, attacking, aggressive beats, well the stuff concord dawn makes is anyway. but whatever, i guess every genre has its cheese. personaly out of drum and bass i like the more jazzy, smooth stuff like high contrast.

Posted by djthunderbird on May-19-2004 19:34:

Posted by Pio on May-19-2004 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Electronicapo1
sounds like there is a whole world of trance you have yet to discover... My only argument is how can drum and bass be cheese??? its hard, attacking, aggressive beats, well the stuff concord dawn makes is anyway. but whatever, i guess every genre has its cheese. personaly out of drum and bass i like the more jazzy, smooth stuff like high contrast.

No no, I don't think there's any trance I have yet to discover. I've been in this game for way too long now. when I say 'cheese' I don't mean anything negative with the term. For me cheese can be great (Gouda) or it can be horrible and cheap (Kraft). For me all trance is cheese one way or the other because it lacks funk or deep soulfulness. And that's what I love about it.

If we're going to talk about cheese in dnb though, the main man would have to be Dillinja and the whole wobble/clownstep tech-step movement. It's a lot of fun, and it can be fine British cheese, but most of the time the circus clown melodies are ridiculous, as exemplified by the quintessential tune TWIST EM OUT.

Posted by Chang monkey on May-19-2004 20:18:

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Originally posted by YaleTrance

If we're going to talk about cheese in dnb though, the main man would have to be Dillinja

disagree.

yes recently dillinja has gone downhill and made sum shocking tunes such as Fast Car, but sum of Dillinjas earlier work was quite heavy. He had quite a good sound goin on for those who like Dnb quite Dirty.

Dillinja - Tear Down Da Whole Place
Dillinja - Fluid
J Magik - Love Is Not A Game (Dillinja Mix) 2nd drop is d-d-d-danger
+ many more
Dillinja - Forsaken Dreams << a recent tune, havent heard but apparently pretty good

Also Where Can i get This Pendulum set?

Posted by Pio on May-19-2004 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Chang monkey
disagree.

yes recently dillinja has gone downhill and made sum shocking tunes such as Fast Car, but sum of Dillinjas earlier work was quite heavy. He had quite a good sound goin on for those who like Dnb quite Dirty.

Dillinja - Tear Down Da Whole Place
Dillinja - Fluid
J Magik - Love Is Not A Game (Dillinja Mix) 2nd drop is d-d-d-danger
+ many more
Dillinja - Forsaken Dreams << a recent tune, havent heard but apparently pretty good

Also Where Can i get This Pendulum set?

and you disagree with what?

I love Dillinja and his raw style, but everyone knows that Twist 'em out is the emblematic symbol of clownstep. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by Electronicapo1 on May-19-2004 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
and you disagree with what?

I love Dillinja and his raw style, but everyone knows that Twist 'em out is the emblematic symbol of clownstep. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

i agree with you, dillinja is teh cheese. but i dont think all trance is cheese. yes it lacks soul, or funk, but it basicaly comes down to what do you define cheese as... cheers.