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Posted by Jayx1 on May-21-2004 21:14:

An observation

Ever notice how everything in electronic music used to be called Techno?

Then everything was called house

and now everything is called trance..


Im not talking about those who know music but rather the people who arent into it much who are trying to describe the dance music genre.


Posted by Fir3start3r on May-21-2004 21:21:

True...

But lets not forget New Wave...that too was a pretty big gendre back in the day (and still one of my favs)


Posted by Jayx1 on May-21-2004 21:21:

oh and for a brief moment (in the US) everything was called electronica...

shudder


Posted by Fir3start3r on May-21-2004 21:30:

Funny thing is, you walk into an HMV and what's the section called?

Electronica


Posted by Jayx1 on May-21-2004 23:51:

youd think the brits of all people would know better eh?


Posted by SKELETOR on May-22-2004 00:39:

a lot of people still call it electronica


Posted by samhouse on May-22-2004 01:27:

like me


Posted by infinity HiGH on May-22-2004 01:30:

WHy wouldn't it be called Electronica? It's electronic music, and thats the broadest term they can use to fit house, trance, techno, breaks, etc etc under.


Posted by TO guy on May-22-2004 02:14:

I still get people calling to "techno" a lot here in the dirty shwa.


Posted by crazedcanuck on May-22-2004 02:32:

I love how everytime a genre get's harder, or changes, a new "buzzword" emerges.

This past year and change, everything became TECH. Tech house, tech trance... pfffft.. just accept there are different levels of dirtyness in each genre.. no need to re-invent the wheel.


Posted by mot10n on May-22-2004 03:01:

as a matter of fact, lol..

i was pumping some chris liebing last night as i went through the drive through @ mcdonalds.. nitzer ebb - murderous (phil kieran remix) was blaring, and the girl taking my money said "ohh, you love trance too huh?! kewwlllll" ......

i responded "yeah, it's a new danny d remix!! TITE HUH?!" and she said something about never hearing it but liking it, and gave me my change.

stupid me for thinking mcdonalds workers know the different genres. stupid stupid me..


Posted by Your Mother on May-22-2004 03:21:

Re: An observation

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Ever notice how everything in electronic music used to be called Techno?

Then everything was called house

and now everything is called trance..

Im not talking about those who know music but rather the people who arent into it much who are trying to describe the dance music genre.


Why does it bother you so much what names people use to describe the music? I've been in the scene for a pretty long time and mixing records for almost as long and I call everything techno (unless I'm talking about the music to someone who is just as musically inclined). Sure I can digress if I want to and start talking about the differences between the different genres (techno, funky house, soulful house, hard house, tech house, vocal house, progressive house, progressive trance, epic trance, euro, breakbeats, drum&bass (my personal fav), happy hardcore.....) and probably a dozen other forms of electronic music that haven't popped into my head yet.

Just because I like to call it techno, does it mean I'm wrong? The entire genre of music is open to alot of interpretation. What we call hard trance is typically called hard house in the UK; What we typically call house, is called funky house in the UK. Everybody interprets the music differently.

-Your Mother


Posted by Matt on May-22-2004 03:23:

I dont really care... I just really hate the term 'dance music'... makes it sound corny.


Posted by Funkyfun on May-22-2004 03:35:

I think the word 'Electronica' is the appropriate word to sum it up generally..


Posted by Jayx1 on May-22-2004 04:24:

Your Mother:

It doesnt bother me at all..

it was just an observation.


Although what does bother me is that the word "electronica" was dreamed up by some Time magazine article writer. Ill never take that term seriously.

Just call it electronic music if you are going to go that route


Posted by Matt on May-22-2004 05:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1

Although what does bother me is that the word "electronica" was dreamed up by some Time magazine article writer.



uhhh... source?


the term 'electronica' was first coined by British recording label "New Electronica"

source


Posted by charmscars on May-22-2004 13:45:

Re: Re: An observation

quote:
Originally posted by Your Mother
Why does it bother you so much what names people use to describe the music? I've been in the scene for a pretty long time and mixing records for almost as long and I call everything techno (unless I'm talking about the music to someone who is just as musically inclined). Sure I can digress if I want to and start talking about the differences between the different genres (techno, funky house, soulful house, hard house, tech house, vocal house, progressive house, progressive trance, epic trance, euro, breakbeats, drum&bass (my personal fav), happy hardcore.....) and probably a dozen other forms of electronic music that haven't popped into my head yet.

Just because I like to call it techno, does it mean I'm wrong? The entire genre of music is open to alot of interpretation. What we call hard trance is typically called hard house in the UK; What we typically call house, is called funky house in the UK. Everybody interprets the music differently.

-Your Mother





It doesn't appear to me that he is bothered by it- he's just making an observation. and i think the point of interest is more in what genre of music is being used at any given time as an umbrella term by ppl not in the scene. It obviously indicates which genre of music has the most mainstream exposure at any given time.


Posted by charmscars on May-22-2004 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Your Mother:

It doesnt bother me at all..

it was just an observation.


Although what does bother me is that the word "electronica" was dreamed up by some Time magazine article writer. Ill never take that term seriously.

Just call it electronic music if you are going to go that route


haha. i wrote my response to him just as you were (was just a little slooooow)


Posted by Skipper on May-22-2004 14:40:

Techno gets a lot of different things labeled as techno - after all, what electronica ISNT "technology music"?

I personally like the word electronica!


Posted by Jayx1 on May-22-2004 17:36:

LOL Charmscars...

great munds think alike


Posted by Pett on May-22-2004 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt

source


pwnd


Posted by charmscars on May-22-2004 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt
I dont really care... I just really hate the term 'dance music'... makes it sound corny.


corny or not, that's what it is- those are the roots. house music was born out of disco and you pretty much can't get away from the fact that that is dance music.

electronic music, would be an umbrella term for everything electronic, not just dance music (think of more experimental stuff (mostly german) that is completely undanceable). In my opionion the word 'electronica' does not sufficiently represent what EDM is to me (i realize that in some circles it has been given basically the same definition as edm)- i mean, basically it's a plural of the word 'electronic.' EDM is more specific.

electronic dance music (edm) i think is the most appropriate term for it...b/c that does diffentiate it from all electronic music....and well, it's made for ppl to dance to at clubs.

all in all,i really don't care what ppl call it as long as they are enjoying the music


Posted by k0nk on May-22-2004 18:53:

I personally like the term electronica, because even though it may cover stuff that isn't "danceable", it still covers techno, trance, house, and subcategories of each. Its a good blanket term in my opinion.


Posted by e*motion on May-22-2004 20:04:

personally I like the term "electronica".

techno, trance, DnB, House, etc. are just sub-categories for the true listeners that are one up in the game.

majority of people can't distinguish a difference between techno and trance.. nubs


Posted by AmbiguousBliss on May-23-2004 02:09:

'Electronica' works just fine for me.


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