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Godskitchen/Spundae expanding into Toronto...

Spundae (Godskitchen USA) updated its site today and suddenly has Toronto in its listings....one thing I noticed when I read it...

friday, may 28th
and every friday following
Godskitchen Presents
George Acosta
Bad Ass B*tches
And many more

"and Every friday following"

So it looks like Spundae/Godskitchen USA is starting a weekly in Toronto at Heaven @ The Docks. Nice!

Then again, you all probably know already

Dave

Re: Godskitchen/Spundae expanding into Toronto...

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Originally posted by DaveT Then again, you all probably know already

yea teh docks recently buffed up their sound system and everything to get ready for the recidency

well if there are badass bitches there, I'm there too.

Twice I've given Guiv (one of the Spundae founders) "hell" for not trying to expand into TO first. Spundae can throw a sick-ass party and Spundae + Godskitchen = insanity.

If they are looking at setting up a weekly event in TO then the Guv better watch out. The lineups that the Guv has been putting together for their big parties will look like tiddly-winks compared to what these 2 are capable of. Spundae alone has Max Graham, G&D, Cass, Lee Burridge, and Jerry Bonham as residents. Not to mention Taj and Gianni who in my opinion can destroy just about any international DJ in the world.

-Your Mother

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Originally posted by Your Mother Twice I've given Guiv (one of the Spundae founders) "hell" for not trying to expand into TO first. Spundae can throw a sick-ass party and Spundae + Godskitchen = insanity. If they are looking at setting up a weekly event in TO then the Guv better watch out. The lineups that the Guv has been putting together for their big parties will look like tiddly-winks compared to what these 2 are capable of. Spundae alone has Max Graham, G&D, Cass, Lee Burridge, and Jerry Bonham as residents. Not to mention Taj and Gianni who in my opinion can destroy just about any international DJ in the world. -Your Mother

I _luv_ Taj and Gianni ... Gianni more because of his energy...Taj because you look at him and you think he'd be in a death metal band with his long hair and tattoos...then he busts out the trance and prog house



Glad they are locals. Gianni should be bigger than a lot of DJs out there. He's one the best regular opener for big DJs around, IMO...Kazell, a Spundae resident in LA, is way up there too.

Spundae is able to expand all over the place now thanks to them being bought by Godskitchen. A lot more money to put into taking chances in new cities. They've exploded in the past few years, and half of that's been within the past several months.

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Originally posted by Your Mother Twice I've given Guiv (one of the Spundae founders) "hell" for not trying to expand into TO first. Spundae can throw a sick-ass party and Spundae + Godskitchen = insanity. If they are looking at setting up a weekly event in TO then the Guv better watch out. The lineups that the Guv has been putting together for their big parties will look like tiddly-winks compared to what these 2 are capable of. Spundae alone has Max Graham, G&D, Cass, Lee Burridge, and Jerry Bonham as residents. Not to mention Taj and Gianni who in my opinion can destroy just about any international DJ in the world. -Your Mother

didn't Godskitchen buyout Spundae as part of their expansion plans into North America.. ? I don't believe that Spundae has ever thrown an event in TO before..

In terms of how certain DJ residency contracts carry over into Canada, it could be quite a complicated issue. It's quite possible that some of these DJs my already hold exclusivity contracts within the existing promoters in this city and how that will all play out with the onset of foreign promoters trying to crack into Toronto's market will be interesting to see..

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Originally posted by dEsidEL didn't Godskitchen buyout Spundae as part of their expansion plans into North America.. ? I don't believe that Spundae has ever thrown an event in TO before..

This is news to me... This must have happened somewhat recently.

As for throwing an event in TO, I think they might have thrown (or at least wanted to) throw an event with Sandra Collins headlining (possibly at Turbo)... or the event could have been in MTL (I dont remember). I'm not sure if the event ever happened though.

-Your Mother

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Originally posted by dEsidEL In terms of how certain DJ residency contracts carry over into Canada, it could be quite a complicated issue. It's quite possible that some of these DJs my already hold exclusivity contracts within the existing promoters in this city and how that will all play out with the onset of foreign promoters trying to crack into Toronto's market will be interesting to see..

Good point. For some reason I see them picking up Luke Fair in the near future. Digweed loves this guy and he is local to TO.

As far as transferring resident DJ contracts, I'm not really sure. Either way, it would make sense to have Max Graham play often in TO since he lives here (unless he's moved away recently).

-Your Mother

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Originally posted by Your Mother This is news to me... This must have happened somewhat recently. As for throwing an event in TO, I think they might have thrown (or at least wanted to) throw an event with Sandra Collins headlining (possibly at Turbo)... or the event could have been in MTL (I dont remember). I'm not sure if the event ever happened though. -Your Mother

I've heard it on 2 different occasions now (the buy out). I've also always wanted to check out a Spundae event , esp. the ones in Cali.. looking forward to what they plan on bringing in the near future..

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Originally posted by Your Mother This is news to me... This must have happened somewhat recently. -Your Mother

Happened in February.

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Originally posted by DaveT I _luv_ Taj and Gianni ... Gianni more because of his energy...Taj because you look at him and you think he'd be in a death metal band with his long hair and tattoos...then he busts out the trance and prog house

Sick-sick-sick ass picture... that brings back some memories.

You're definitely right about Gianni's level of energy. That guy is just insane... energy that can rival Donald Glaude, and a personality like Lee Burridge... a real class act.

I never had a chance to see Kazell but everyone used to rave about his sets... I've never heard so many requests to see a DJ play the main room at a club before.

-Your Mother

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Originally posted by Your Mother If they are looking at setting up a weekly event in TO then the Guv better watch out. The lineups that the Guv has been putting together for their big parties will look like tiddly-winks compared to what these 2 are capable of. Spundae alone has Max Graham, G&D, Cass, Lee Burridge, and Jerry Bonham as residents. Not to mention Taj and Gianni who in my opinion can destroy just about any international DJ in the world. -Your Mother

Max Graham, G&D, Cass, Lee Burridge, and Jerry Bonham are going to shut down guv? Bahahahahhaha thats the joke of the year IMO. Have you seen Guvernment's lineup for the next month not to mention the huge respect the resident DJ has in this country?

It will be great to see some competition but i dont think Guv had better watch out any time soon. If anything this may draw even more people into the scene.

Remember the 90s when clubs just kept opening and the raves just kept getting bigger? No one ever went out of business because the more options there were, the more partiers came in numbers. We may be seeing the beginning of round 2 in Toronto electronic culture this summer. Unless, like so many other things its nothing but loaded BS hype.

Time will tell... either way trying new things cant hurt.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Max Graham, G&D, Cass, Lee Burridge, and Jerry Bonham are going to shut down guv? Bahahahahhaha thats the joke of the year IMO. Have you seen Guvernment's lineup for the next month not to mention the huge respect the resident DJ has in this country?

Dude, get a fucking clue... I said they were residents, I never said they are going to shut down the Guv. Who does the Guvernment have as their resident(s)??? Mark Fucking Oliver... not bad, but not great either, and to suggest he's even in the same ballpark as the DJ's I mentioned would show how little you really know. When a promoter can have that level of talent as their resident dj's then just think of the type of talent they can pull in on any given night (I've seen it happen many times). If the docks (with Spundae/GK) went up against the Guvernment head-to-head on Saturday nights, the Docks could easily steal the Guv's client-base. All they have to do is provide a comparable sound-system, comparable light-show, and a better DJ lineup. The first 2 are most likely in place due to the recent renovations, and the last will be a joke with someone like Spundae/GK backing it. Whether or not Spundae/GK backs a Saturday night party remains to be seen.

Why does the Guv typically bring in many of the top DJ's on Thursday nights and not Saturday nights? Its because they don't have nearly as much pull or respect as the big promoters in the global clubbing community. The big boys get who they want first... they have the most money, and they are the promoters that everyone wants to play for. The level of power and influence that Spundae/GK has dwarfs anything the Guv can come up with.

-Your Mother

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Originally posted by Your Mother Dude, get a fucking clue... I said they were residents, I never said they are going to shut down the Guv. Who does the Guvernment have as their resident(s)??? Mark Fucking Oliver... not bad, but not great either, and to suggest he's even in the same ballpark as the DJ's I mentioned would show how little you really know. When a promoter can have that level of talent as their resident dj's then just think of the type of talent they can pull in on any given night (I've seen it happen many times). If the docks (with Spundae/GK) went up against the Guvernment head-to-head on Saturday nights, the Docks could easily steal the Guv's client-base. All they have to do is provide a comparable sound-system, comparable light-show, and a better DJ lineup. The first 2 are most likely in place due to the recent renovations, and the last will be a joke with someone like Spundae/GK backing it. Whether or not Spundae/GK backs a Saturday night party remains to be seen. Why does the Guv typically bring in many of the top DJ's on Thursday nights and not Saturday nights? Its because they don't have nearly as much pull or respect as the big promoters in the global clubbing community. The big boys get who they want first... they have the most money, and they are the promoters that everyone wants to play for. The level of power and influence that Spundae/GK has dwarfs anything the Guv can come up with. -Your Mother

altho i don't necessarily agree with everything that you said .. kudos for speaking your mind on this..

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Originally posted by DaveT Happened in February.

Damn, Peter and Guiv must have been laughing to the bank.

-Your Mother

Hey dudes...calm down.

It's nice having two major venues for the big DJs around. Means a better chance of awesome weekends every once in awhile. Means that if a DJ has a problem with one promoter, he or she always has the other promoter to work with.

SF and LA both have two major promoters (SF has Spundae and Release, and LA has Spundae and Giant), and if you match the linesups of every city in the US, SF and LA are in the top three (the other probably being NYC) far ahead of other cities. Even if the scene in SF is suffering bigtime....and a lot of it can be attributed to the multiple major promoters.

This past weekend SF had Hybrid, Way Out West, Gabriel & Dresden, 4 Strings, and Behrouz between all the different promoters....talk about a great weekend for clubbing!

Dave

Miss Julia from LATA seems to like the TOTA scene better

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Max Graham, G&D, Cass, Lee Burridge, and Jerry Bonham are going to shut down guv?

btw, excluding Jerry Bonham, there is a reason why Spundae locked these DJ's up as residents... its because they're good at foreshadowing. Cass is considered by many to be the next Sasha; Burridge is already near the top of the DJ list and climbing fast; G&D are the top producers in the world right now; and Max is also considered by many to be one of the next big things. In 5 years time, any or all of these DJ's can be what Sasha, Digweed, Tiesto, PVD... are today.

-Your Mother

Funny how my post basically embraced a more diverse clubscene and yet i was still told to "get a clue". As for my comment about the spundae residents. When you tell me "guv better watch out" im going to respond with my opinion about it as to why they dont have to. The very statement by you implies that a new night at the docks may seriously hurt guvernment. In that regards i say bullshit.

I will again stress that any new establishment in this city as far as DJ talent etc is amazing news and i wish more of it were happening. But to say other venues had "better watch out" is a bit ignorant in my opinion. Has Guv suffered at all since Boa opened up? Not at all! If anything its bringing even more people out to more good events.

Hopefully the clubscene has now bottomed out in TO and the only way to go is up.

I will now offer my personal opinion on Mark Oliver. I have seen him spin next to and stack up nicely to the "best" talent in the world. Not every DJ is everyone's style as we have debated quite a bit around here already but to deny the talent and influence that Oliver has had over this city and to an extent the country is rediculous as well. Not everyone can pull of 9 hours straight every weekend. In fact most of the big name djs wont play more than 3 because they either cant handle it or arent interested.

Yes, the other DJs you have mentioned are great talent as well. Lee Burridge is also a crazy nutter and i mean that in the best way possible heheheh (but thats a whole other story LOL).

wow i liek this

thers a lot of interesting facts that i learned by reading this

its a good debate and i hope it keeps going, cuz i can learn more and more from this

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I will now offer my personal opinion on Mark Oliver. I have seen him spin next to and stack up nicely to the "best" talent in the world. Not every DJ is everyone's style as we have debated quite a bit around here already but to deny the talent and influence that Oliver has had over this city and to an extent the country is rediculous as well. Not everyone can pull of 9 hours straight every weekend. In fact most of the big name djs wont play more than 3 because they either cant handle it or arent interested.

I could spend the next 3 months straight explaining why I think Mark Oliver is a very overrated DJ but I won't bother. Instead I'll sum up some stuff briefly here and never return to the subject.

1) No disrespect to any of the TOTA's, but my experience with people who love Mark Oliver is that they haven't spent considerable time partying in other cities and listening to resident DJ's from around the world. Alot of these people have typically spent most of their time in TO and consider the Guvernment their second home. Of course there are many exceptions to the rule, but the vast majority I find are like this. Of the many people I would consider global clubbers, they share my opinion that Mark Oliver is at best a decent DJ. They have told me time and time again that when they return to the Guv and listen to Mark, they don't find his sets impressive at all. Of course I'm not saying all of Mark's sets are bad... I have heard him play great sets before, or at least part of his set was played brilliantly. However, to be a top DJ and hold your own with top international talent you have to nail your set 95% percent of the time. Every DJ has an off night, but they should be few and far between.

2) Regarding your last statement about playing 3 hour sets, please provide some form of proof that DJ's are like this??? Anything will do. The only DJ that ever comes to mind is Oakenfold. Can you name another please? Most of the top DJ's in the world have been quoted as saying they prefer longer sets because it gives them the opportunity to take the crowd on more of a journey. A good DJ needs at least 2 hours just to get his set really going, then by the start of the fourth hour, he should be ripping you another hole. I would venture to guess that most DJ's would prefer 5 hour sets. Most DJ's spin because they love it... making money on the side is just an added bonus.

Now, the fact that Mark spins 9 hour sets means nothing. I could spin a 9 hour set if you wanted me to (or simply cause I enjoy it.. although finding 9 hours to spin in a day is tough for me). He's probably getting paid well over $5K to spin those sets (probably alot more). If someone waived that kind of money in your face, would you turn it down? What I find he's often missing in those sets is a sense of progression. The last marathon I heard him play was New Years, and it was God-awful. The entire set was horrible and seemed to contain just random track selection. Many of his marathon sets I endured in 98/99 had some of the same problems. He messed up the filler tracks but the crowd didn't care (or notice) as long as the next track was a trance anthem (which is much of what he played back then). Its always good to play to the crowd, but simply throwing on anthems doesn't cut it. To give him some credit, the split set he played on Saturday around Scott Bond was awesome (more of what I would expect from a man in his position). Possibly because each of his sets were only 3 hours long.

3) Nobody, and I mean nobody outside of TO to MTL have even a clue who Mark Oliver is. Certainly not in Europe, or the US, or Australia, or... Mark has only had influence over TO, and no other place. There was a time he played a set at Atomic in Ottawa, and 10 people showed up.

That's all that popped into my head for now (still recovering from the weekend ). I'll add more as it comes to me (against my promise of never bringing up the topic again).

-Your Mother

This part of your post sums it up nicely

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The last marathon I heard him play was New Years, and it was God-awful. The entire set was horrible and seemed to contain just random track selection.

So you show up once a year and suddenly you are an expert at what goes on at the guv every sat night? Not to mention you show up on a night where the theme of the night is club anthems of years gone by.

That night was ALL ABOUT RANDOM TRACK SELECTION seeing as it was a special night and half the crowd were tourists who probably needed the constant prodding.

Come by on a normal saturday night, stay the whole night and then give me a proper review please.

And just to show you that what neither of us think about any DJ is set in stone as rule of law, i personally thought that marks closing set on Sat night was one of the worst ive heard from him in ages. His set was not my cup of tea at all but thats mostly because im not a trance fan. to me, that set was his 5% he's on the ball 95% of the time IMO....But this illustrates that mine is solely one man's opinion as is yours.


#2: i have worked with many many guest djs over the years at various venues whom have thrown their hands up as soon as their contracted time was over and demanded that the next DJ start immediately.

There are a few notable exceptions of course but by and large this has been the rule.

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[i][b] Now, the fact that Mark spins 9 hour sets means nothing. I could spin a 9 hour set if you wanted me to

Hahahhah id like to see you pull it off. If i were MO id call your bluff and hand over the controls to you for a Saturday night and then fuck off to mexico for a vacation. Im betting the place would be closed by 3....

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I will now offer my personal opinion on Mark Oliver. I have seen him spin next to and stack up nicely to the "best" talent in the world...Not everyone can pull of 9 hours straight every weekend.

I'm staying out of the debate...but I agree 100% with both of those statements! I think Toronto's got plenty of int'l calibre talent in its residents like Deko-ze, Addy, Mark Oliver...

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