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Posted by d!abolic on May-25-2004 21:23:

Any career entrepreneurs here?

Are there any career entrepreneurs here? I'm talkin business owners / investors, real estate owners / investors, full or part-time traders, etc. Or hell, anyone who makes their living in some sort of an unusual way that would make for interesting discussions?


Posted by Jayx1 on May-25-2004 21:26:

does opening a quiznos next month count?


Posted by tha_broad on May-25-2004 21:34:

I thought maybe you were lookin for somebody to open up a 24hr Condom shack with, for those "late night necessities"


Posted by dEsidEL on May-25-2004 21:34:

KarateKid



rabbitjoker does .. and i guess u could consider Swamper as an entrepeneur as well ..


Posted by angelgirl on May-25-2004 21:58:

I ran my own fashion design business for 2 years (shut it down after having "issues" with my business partner) and would like to get back into working for myself again in the near future. Working for the man does not pay!


Posted by Fir3start3r on May-25-2004 22:15:

Business Entrepreneurship is where it's at baby!


Slave by day; Freedom by night


Posted by harcourt on May-25-2004 22:19:

Self employed contractor, not exactly building a business at the moment, soon enough. Either way, not working for the man!


Posted by d!abolic on May-25-2004 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
does opening a quiznos next month count?

Yea for sure, lets share ideas. Got MSN?


Posted by d!abolic on May-25-2004 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by angelgirl
I ran my own fashion design business for 2 years (shut it down after having "issues" with my business partner) and would like to get back into working for myself again in the near future. Working for the man does not pay!
I hear you. Death by fire > having a business partner

quote:
Originally posted by tha_broad
I thought maybe you were lookin for somebody to open up a 24hr Condom shack with, for those "late night necessities"


Shh you're gonna ruin the surprise!

quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
Self employed contractor, not exactly building a business at the moment, soon enough. Either way, not working for the man!


quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Business Entrepreneurship is where it's at baby!


Slave by day; Freedom by night


What exactly do you guys do?


Posted by monishb on May-25-2004 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by tha_broad
I thought maybe you were lookin for somebody to open up a 24hr Condom shack with, for those "late night necessities"


not a bad idea, i think i should open up one myself


Posted by Seany_G on May-25-2004 22:48:

JUst started a website which im hoping will expand into more!


Posted by harcourt on May-25-2004 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by d!abolic

What exactly do you guys do?


Software training for Sun Microsystems. They run training throughout the world on their software/hardware line. 3 to 5 day instructor lead training classes. I fly wherever they need me to teach for 3-5 days at a time. Also work on developing the training manuals they use in those classes as well. So I have my own company and work out as a sub-contractor with another company, I get paid when I work and when I don't work I sit at home.


Posted by d!abolic on May-25-2004 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
Software training for Sun Microsystems. They run training throughout the world on their software/hardware line. 3 to 5 day instructor lead training classes. I fly wherever they need me to teach for 3-5 days at a time. Also work on developing the training manuals they use in those classes as well. So I have my own company and work out as a sub-contractor with another company, I get paid when I work and when I don't work I sit at home.
Sounds pretty sweet. Why are you doing the training yourself though? You could hire some people to do the actual training and work on expanding the client base yourself.


Posted by harcourt on May-25-2004 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by d!abolic
Sounds pretty sweet. Why are you doing the training yourself though? You could hire some people to do the actual training and work on expanding the client base yourself.


Doesn't work like that, it's not an open market and you need permission to get in from Sun. Only a select number of companies get contracts with Sun and you work through them. Not to mention, the insane amount of insurance required, that alone is $100K+/year. It's temporary, but no doubt still a much better position then working for the man IMO.


Posted by d!abolic on May-26-2004 00:27:

quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
Doesn't work like that, it's not an open market and you need permission to get in from Sun. Only a select number of companies get contracts with Sun and you work through them. Not to mention, the insane amount of insurance required, that alone is $100K+/year. It's temporary, but no doubt still a much better position then working for the man IMO.
What i'm saying is this: why not aim to BECOME one of those 'few select companies' that get contracts from Sun (and others too i'm sure). You know, that's probably how they all got started. McDonalds was started by a cook (whom Ray Kroc bought it from and made it into what it is today that is) and Microsoft was started by a programmer. You get the idea And the fact that you have to spend $8,000/mo on insurance is great because your competitors have to pay it too, so you're not in any danger (of spending more than they are), but since your (and their) profit margin is a percentage, the higher your (and their) expenses, the more you're making. To illustrate this, say all your costs got slashed down to $20 per hour of training so you'd be charging $30 and making $10. Now imagine if they soared to $200 per hour. You'd now likely be charging $275 if not $300, but definitely not $210 That's why when a supplier of mine wants to raise prices, i'm all for it. I simply switch to a cheaper supplier for the time being, temporarily leaving my competitors in the dust. Sooner or later, the other supplier will realize this and raise their prices too, resulting in an industry-wide price hike (since there will no longer be a cheaper supplier) which once again works for me since the hike will be (material cost increase) x 3, 2 of those 3 being profit.


Posted by k0nk on May-26-2004 01:27:

I'll be opening my own health care practice in a few years if that counts.


Posted by disko-kandi on May-26-2004 01:33:

i'm setting myself up to become an independent immigration consultant, with possibly my own immigration law practice or heading my own NGO for human rights i.e. refugees, asylum seekers in detention and torture victims. ...we'll see. it's a long shot there, but this is my goal!

no need to work for the man, if you can be the MAN!

p.s. i might need your guys' support one day for a fundraising event!
something along the lines of 'people for the people' ... what you think?


Posted by Vivid Boy on May-26-2004 01:39:

have my own small business out of my basement/office/slut room


Posted by Crazy Serb on May-26-2004 01:54:

...trying to start something of my own... all ideas and suggestions/partnerships are welcome.


Posted by dEsidEL on May-26-2004 02:10:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by Crazy Serb
...trying to start something of my own... all ideas and suggestions/partnerships are welcome.




how bout running a site kinda like tranceaddict.. but featuring house music instead! oh wait ..


Posted by d!abolic on May-26-2004 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazy Serb
...trying to start something of my own... all ideas and suggestions/partnerships are welcome.
Uh huh. Two words. Flipping properties.

quote:
Originally posted by k0nk
I'll be opening my own health care practice in a few years if that counts.
So you're a physician and planning to open your own practice?

quote:
Originally posted by disko-kandi
i'm setting myself up to become an independent immigration consultant, with possibly my own immigration law practice
Is there good money in that? I hear some people in Europe paying ridiculous amounts (upwards of $10KUSD/person) to get here, but i think nearly all of that is bribe money


Posted by Your Mother on May-26-2004 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by disko-kandi
i'm setting myself up to become an independent immigration consultant, with possibly my own immigration law practice or heading my own NGO for human rights i.e. refugees, asylum seekers in detention and torture victims. ...we'll see. it's a long shot there, but this is my goal!


The US has alot of people that will marry you for a large fee just so you can apply for your green card... It has huge profit potential and maybe you should consider setting up something similar ;D

For what its worth to the original poster, I've been heavily involved in 2 different software startups (both from almost day 1). The first was during the dot-com boom/bust (20% management, 80% dev), and the other more recently which we're just starting to get off the ground. However, I may have to walk away from the current one since I'm moving to NY in a month to work.

-Your Mother


Posted by disko-kandi on May-26-2004 04:21:

quote:
Originally posted by d!abolic
Is there good money in that? I hear some people in Europe paying ridiculous amounts (upwards of $10KUSD/person) to get here, but i think nearly all of that is bribe money


according to new immigration laws that came to life in april this year, that is not possible anymore. ...and no, i don't intend to get rich off this. i told you before, money is not be all, end all! there's other things in life that are more important!


Posted by disko-kandi on May-26-2004 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Your Mother
The US has alot of people that will marry you for a large fee just so you can apply for your green card... It has huge profit potential and maybe you should consider setting up something similar ;D


i don't intend to work for the states but against, perhaps in collaboration with, the states! ... i also know a lot of men with a lot of money whom i could marry, and never have to work ... i don't know what's worse? j/k


Posted by Crazy Serb on May-26-2004 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


how bout running a site kinda like tranceaddict.. but featuring house music instead! oh wait ..



Hahahaa!!! Good one... got me laughing.

But seriously, we're talking business opportunities here, not personal hobbies...


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