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Dj's who play their own tunes...

look at Shane 54 , he's able to only spin his own producs . Some others dj's include more and more of their tunes into their sets like PVD , Ferry...

I think it's a good alternative when you see all the dj's who play 100% ASOT tracks and can't be a little original.

so ,do you think it's the future of Trance music?

i don't know how trance will evolve but it's a good thing that DJs spins their own tunes. you have a good point when you said that there are a lot of DJs who play the same stuff, nothing original at all. so, making your own tunes and playing them, could be a good point in trance evolution and maybe will add a diversity.

Tiesto plays a lot of his own tunes and has also expressed that he some day want to just play his own. I don't mind some variation in sets though as producers tend to stick with the same elements (synths etc) in their remixes/productions. There are a lot of other ways to build up a liveset than the ASOT way..

like mista said i noticed that tiesto said he wanted to play an entire 8hour set using just his productions. this can only be good IMO. It signifies a progression from being a DJ to an artist and help make djs more respected in the wider music circle

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Originally posted by slinkyhead like mista said i noticed that tiesto said he wanted to play an entire 8hour set using just his productions. this can only be good IMO. It signifies a progression from being a DJ to an artist and help make djs more respected in the wider music circle

Respect by who? I doubt if it will get any respect by diehard tranceaddicts. 8-hours of Tiesto productions would just be a stupid 8-hour hitparade with the same old tunes everyone heard like a 1000 times already. boring...

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Originally posted by Gotcha85 Respect by who? I doubt if it will get any respect by diehard tranceaddicts. 8-hours of Tiesto productions would just be a stupid 8-hour hitparade with the same old tunes everyone heard like a 1000 times already. boring...

i meant people not so involved in trance just the wider music scene. my friends always take the piss that the djs who i go and see dont even play there own stuff but if they play more of their own trakcs it does give a certain validity

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Originally posted by slinkyhead i meant people not so involved in trance just the wider music scene. my friends always take the piss that the djs who i go and see dont even play there own stuff but if they play more of their own trakcs it does give a certain validity

I think you mean more of their own commercial tracks? When Tiesto plays a tune like Obsession or Nyana, will that give your friends this certain validity? I doubt it.

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Originally posted by slinkyhead like mista said i noticed that tiesto said he wanted to play an entire 8hour set using just his productions. this can only be good IMO. It signifies a progression from being a DJ to an artist and help make djs more respected in the wider music circle

i'm sorry but that would be the worst thing ever.

Why doesn't he just start doing live acts instead of playing his own records.. An 8 hour producers set is possibly the worst idea I have ever heard

For play his own productions there are the lives PA. And a live is so boring if the artist has only 3 or 4 good productions.

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Respect by who? I doubt if it will get any respect by diehard tranceaddicts. 8-hours of Tiesto productions would just be a stupid 8-hour hitparade with the same old tunes everyone heard like a 1000 times already. boring...

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An 8 hour producers set is possibly the worst idea I have ever heard

listen to paul plays paul @ casino 2001, i find that 1 of my fav sets. Autumn & Forbidden Fruit !!!!!!!!!! I would die to hear a set liek that. But only 3-4 producers have enough good productions for 2 hour sets not even talking about 8 hours.

i know paul has about 344 productions w/remixes...

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Originally posted by slinkyhead like mista said i noticed that tiesto said he wanted to play an entire 8hour set using just his productions. this can only be good IMO. It signifies a progression from being a DJ to an artist and help make djs more respected in the wider music circle

If you're talking about what Tiesto said about TiC 2, then you're wrong. He said last year, TiC was only 60% his songs (though I beg to differ). This year, he'd like it to be 80%.

First to come into my mind > DuMonde.

Few own tunes is okay but if it's like 75-90% own tunes, nah.

i have nothing against someone playing all of their own music

BUT

they have to have a diverse enough sound to pull it off. part of what makes live sets great is that there is so much music out there that you can pick and choose wonderful tunes that go together perfectly and move the set along.

i don't think most producers are talented enough to pull it off. most do not produce enough tracks, and of those that they produce, they aren't varied enough in sound. i think overall its a bad idea to play just your own tunes...but dj's should compliment their sets with tunes they make.

Yes and it is sad, take a look at the tracklist forum threads of all these deejays (kenneth thomas, endre and many others). All playing the same ASOT/Markus Schulz Prog Garbage and no wonder no one books people as often, because THEY ARE NOT ORIGINAL. Armin is single handly dragging trance down the path to mediocre results and he is making a fortune. With idiotic deejays trying to play sets like him, check the oslo nights (look at all that crap). Deejays are not original anymore and the lameass wannabes are trying too hard to get in. If you like ASOT, shame you on!

I'd never thought about it in the sense that DJs spinning their own work was making them more like artists. Especially live sets broadcast on live radio I thought it was shameless promotion of their own work....maybe not though

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=6

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Originally posted by Floorfiller they have to have a diverse enough sound to pull it off. part of what makes live sets great is that there is so much music out there that you can pick and choose wonderful tunes that go together perfectly and move the set along.

i agree, and there arn't many that could actually pull it off.

the fact of the matter remains, if i want to see a producer playing all of his/her own tracks, it should be a live PA (that shows more "validity" for producers, which is what we are talking about here), and certainly not 8 hours long!


i personally cant stand it when i see a DJ playing a set, and he/she plays all their own stuff.. it doesnt take much thinking and it lacks diversity. obviously they should play 1 or 2 of their own tracks (if the style fits with the djing style) as they would be stupid not to, its great promotion.

and i disagree with some of you saying that 'they all play the same tracks', thinking that that has a relevence to this topic.. what that does have relevance to, is whether or not the dj is any good in the first place, and whether or not they are one of these sheep dj's who follow what the current 'big' djs are doing

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Originally posted by torontotrance Yes and it is sad, take a look at the tracklist forum threads of all these deejays (kenneth thomas, endre and many others). All playing the same ASOT/Markus Schulz Prog Garbage and no wonder no one books people as often, because THEY ARE NOT ORIGINAL. Armin is single handly dragging trance down the path to mediocre results and he is making a fortune. With idiotic deejays trying to play sets like him, check the oslo nights (look at all that crap). Deejays are not original anymore and the lameass wannabes are trying too hard to get in. If you like ASOT, shame you on!

Amen to that.

Granted, I do like an occasional ASOT set, but I'm not an "OMG ASOT!!!1" fan.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller they have to have a diverse enough sound to pull it off. part of what makes live sets great is that there is so much music out there that you can pick and choose wonderful tunes that go together perfectly and move the set along.

I agree. Play as many of your own tunes as possible, but make sure it's diverse.

I bet Oliver Lieb could do it, maybe not 8 hours, but definitely 2, and with variation too.

Other thing is that all deejays do is play their record label tunes as well, just to make more money. I have a problem with that, not making money but forcing your tunes down someone's throat. We all know what happened to Pete Tong in 1996, he got fined for playing too many songs that he had invested interest in (really ones that FFRR owned or he had a % in the label)

I really think deejays have gone too much off the path. I mean we had superstar deejays in the mid 90's but they were more celebrated for playing records that you did not have. Now with the internet and mp3, that is not the case anymore. Paul van Dyk, Armin van Buuren, Tiesto are all deejays that the ones like me that don't enjoy anymore....but completely loved at one point. Most deejays are far too busy with things to put the effort into things anymore, I mean where is Paul van Dyk's emotional epic trancers that took the words out of my mouth. No heart, no soul in music anymore, just plain old $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and the music is suffering. You want to take a look at sets, look the djmixes2k sets, most of them are so similar, it makes me puke, everyone plays what armin and co do. Be yourself, find your own records. See if I was a dj, I'd be playing lesser known records that rocked, I'd be hunting for smaller releases and hammering that, it got Anthony Pappa to the A list of deejays.

i agree

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Originally posted by torontotrance Other thing is that all deejays do is play their record label tunes as well, just to make more money. I have a problem with that, not making money but forcing your tunes down someone's throat. We all know what happened to Pete Tong in 1996, he got fined for playing too many songs that he had invested interest in (really ones that FFRR owned or he had a % in the label) I really think deejays have gone too much off the path. I mean we had superstar deejays in the mid 90's but they were more celebrated for playing records that you did not have. Now with the internet and mp3, that is not the case anymore. Paul van Dyk, Armin van Buuren, Tiesto are all deejays that the ones like me that don't enjoy anymore....but completely loved at one point. Most deejays are far too busy with things to put the effort into things anymore, I mean where is Paul van Dyk's emotional epic trancers that took the words out of my mouth. No heart, no soul in music anymore, just plain old $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and the music is suffering. You want to take a look at sets, look the djmixes2k sets, most of them are so similar, it makes me puke, everyone plays what armin and co do. Be yourself, find your own records. See if I was a dj, I'd be playing lesser known records that rocked, I'd be hunting for smaller releases and hammering that, it got Anthony Pappa to the A list of deejays.

completely agree TTA. its all about the jewel or a tune that you find. i love to hunt for great records. i think its pathetic when people just automaticly buy records that armin or tiesto or pvd plays. i used to listen to their sets and pick maybe one or two songs that i thought where fantastic and wanted, but i don't even do that anymore.

i think we get a little too much ASOT crammed down our throut. if i had a radio show...i certainly wouldn't do it more than monthly. all of these weekly shows are too damn repetitive and i think it really takes away from the music.

fritz #1...98% of the time i cant id anything paul plays in his sets, he plays a lot of good house & prog-house, and a few thrown in techno tracks once in a while.

It used to go like this in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Sasha would play tracks that no one had and even today, some of his tracks from his sets are unknown. Sasha used to be great because he used to play white labels that no one had and with his amazing mixing skills, he played too well. People who heard the white labels would hunt them down in record shops after he played them and most of them would have those tunes. The problem today is that deejays push them down your throat, Armin's tune of the week will be bought by 100's of sellout nobody deejay who want to sound like armin and get places. Be yourself, that's why you have Timo Maas, James Zabiela, Dave Clarke and co. at the top of the dj list because no one plays like them. That is why I rarely listen to internet radio (ets is great but most of the deejays are clones for armin and co., I have no time for that). The only radio show that I do catch on a semi regular basis is Wicked Neo's show, the old man has a unique style, hate neo if you want but at least he did not sell out.

i think that dj's shouldn't push their labels so hard definitely. i know that they just want to boost sales, but really...most of the money they are gonna make is from their livesets...that's what i'd be concerned with. make them quality.

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