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Posted by TranceFool on Sep-05-2001 10:14:

Arrow KILL Switches

I am going to buy two turntables and a Numark mixer. But i have a problem. I have just enough money to buy these toys and i wanna know something about KILL Switches. There is a Numark mixer: DM 2000X and DM 2002X. The 2002X has KILL Switches but costs 50 dollars more. Are KILL Switches very usefull, or do you think i can beter buy some good records for those 50 dollars???

THANX FOR HELPING!!!!


Posted by rawkus rowan on Sep-05-2001 10:21:

i like kill switches, go for that option i'd say. it shouldn't take long to get your hands on another 50 dollars should it? go for the switches


Posted by Pjotr G on Sep-05-2001 11:46:

I own the dm2002x too and i LOVE the killswitches
they cut a part of the sound entirely (bass mid hi)

i use it in every transition like this
cut the bass on the new record
mix it in
when both records have a kick and maybe a bassline
i cut the bass on the old record and turn on the bass on the new record

this makes transitions soooooo damn smooth


Posted by dazzed on Sep-05-2001 16:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G
I own the dm2002x too and i LOVE the killswitches
they cut a part of the sound entirely (bass mid hi)

i use it in every transition like this
cut the bass on the new record
mix it in
when both records have a kick and maybe a bassline
i cut the bass on the old record and turn on the bass on the new record

this makes transitions soooooo damn smooth


even if the bass lines are different?
i would think it would sound quite simply like one bass line cut out and the other cut in, a good ear could tell the different bases.


Posted by TranceFool on Sep-05-2001 18:20:

THANX for the reactions guys!!! Anyone else have some comments???


Posted by Pjotr G on Sep-05-2001 18:37:

quote:
Originally posted by dazzed


even if the bass lines are different?
i would think it would sound quite simply like one bass line cut out and the other cut in, a good ear could tell the different bases.


of course you can tell the difference but it's the same effect that you get when a record starts building up and new elements come in

at least when you mix in a non-melodic part
when you mix 2 melodies thru each other it all sounds pretty messed up heheh
well i don't spin too melodic trance anyways harder stuff for me


Posted by dazzed on Sep-05-2001 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G


of course you can tell the difference but it's the same effect that you get when a record starts building up and new elements come in

at least when you mix in a non-melodic part
when you mix 2 melodies thru each other it all sounds pretty messed up heheh
well i don't spin too melodic trance anyways harder stuff for me


yah melodic trance doesn't leave much room for mixing except before and after the melodies. I have heard people mix in the middle of melodies, and when done right it sounds amazing, when done any other way.. like how i tend to do it.. it sounds.. well u know =)


Posted by Jukx on Sep-05-2001 22:58:

Hey Trancefool, have you allready decided what turntables you are going to get???
PS. I would also go for the DM2002X.


Posted by Nastra Azzurro on Sep-05-2001 23:24:

DONT GET the Kills man.........U should buy records If u eventually get in to clubs , they dont usually have Kills...so Learn to use the eq straight away dont waste time on kills might as well go straight to the equalizers...

well thats whut i fink neway

later


Posted by DJ_kimberg on Sep-06-2001 00:04:

Smiley DJ

True, Eq kills are really not neccessory,.And i bet if you do get the mixer with kill switches you are going to have a habit of keep using them over and over again and blah blah =X ., go for the eq only setup.


Posted by VoiDeT on Sep-06-2001 06:19:

Hey,
i like vestax mixers, and i was wondering what is the cheapest but good mixer that has kill switchs?? yea because i also agree kill switches make transitions more smoother and give it a more professional touch....Very handy...so yea what cheap but good vestax mixer anyone??


Posted by TranceFool on Sep-06-2001 16:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Jukx
Hey Trancefool, have you allready decided what turntables you are going to get???
PS. I would also go for the DM2002X.

I think i go for the Gemini's XL-500, new. Not sure, ut i think that is what it will be.

I still dont know what to do. More people say that i have to take the one with the KILL switches but i know that Nastra Azzuro know much about DJ'ing. So i still dont know what to do


Posted by emerica on Sep-06-2001 17:36:

u can get the Behringer DX500, it has kill switches, its a cheap and good mixer. but i think you should first train the EQ faders first... then try the kill switches.


Posted by Nastra Azzurro on Sep-06-2001 19:11:

yeah I wanted to get the Behringer DX1000 MASSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But id didnt Im bummed i didnt instead i was stupid and got a stupid beatkeeper which i never use......I think If u wanna dj u should buy the best and the most simple mixer and turntable ,ie. Technics and a Good simple mixer thats all u need...if u can rock it on the simple sjit then u can have more fun when using fancy stuff.....but if u can only rock it on fancy stuff ull probably suck on simple sjit u know (weird heheh) sry

later doggs


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Sep-08-2001 06:38:

Ive got the DM2002X (till this friday i get my Pioneer DJM600 )


i luv the kill switches........trust me....spend the extra $50 it'll be worth it


Posted by Leigh on Sep-08-2001 11:17:

youd have to be pretty unco if you cant turn the eq's quick enuf


Posted by TranceFool on Sep-08-2001 14:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Leigh
youd have to be pretty unco if you cant turn the eq's quick enuf

hmmmm.........explain?


Posted by DJTJ on Sep-08-2001 16:23:

I think what he means is, if you get used to using kill switches to turn off bass etc then if you ever get to play in a proper club, where kill switches are very rare, then you'll look like a bit of a TranceFool (hehe, sorry, couldn't resist! ) when you can't turn the eq knob quickly enough.


Posted by TranceFool on Sep-08-2001 16:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJTJ
I think what he means is, if you get used to using kill switches to turn off bass etc then if you ever get to play in a proper club, where kill switches are very rare, then you'll look like a bit of a TranceFool (hehe, sorry, couldn't resist! ) when you can't turn the eq knob quickly enough.

Dont make jokes abou my name . Nastra Azzuro also said that about the KILL switches, understand it now. I will first learn mixing without the switches, later i can use them then


Posted by emerica on Sep-08-2001 17:50:

this is the right way


Posted by Pjotr G on Sep-08-2001 19:19:

COME ON GUYS

how hard is it to turn 2 knobs at the same time?!?!

one up and the other down gosh i guess that makes it harder


Posted by DJTJ on Sep-09-2001 16:05:

I never even realised until the other day that people actually used kill switches for mixing. I thought everyone used the eq knobs. The only time I would even consider using a kill switch is if I want to quickly take out the bass for a single beat, or something like that, to give an effect in the middle of a song. You can still do this with the eq knob though, you just have to turn it quickly.


Posted by emerica on Sep-09-2001 19:26:

yes theses switches aren't necessary and you'll never see anyone in the clubs.


Posted by Trypsin on Sep-09-2001 21:25:

Personally, I wouldn't spend an extra $50 on kill switches. When I mix, I use the eq to fade out the old bassline while fading in the new one; it makes for a much smoother transition that suddenly punching in the bass at full volume like you would with kill switches.


Posted by VoiDeT on Sep-09-2001 21:28:

Are numark mixers any good??


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