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Dark Trance
Ok.
I've now received two demo CDs with this "genre" genre listed as the style.. doing a little search (on TA as well) I found a reference to "CJ Bolland - The Prophet" as being part of this genre..
Can someone please explain to me, this genre.
Is it like hard dance, where everyone who thinks they're uberleet classes what they place as "Dark Trance" yet its really just uplifting trance or boring shitty prog? Just like people who play hard dance classify anything that's a good tune and "harder than house" as being part of this genre 
i classify genres as stupid.
Right or not, these are what I consider "dark trance" 
Tiesto - Traffic, Love Comes Again (if it didn't have vocals..)
Wippenberg - Fire (my #1 track right now)
Scott Mac - Damager 03
Cosmic Gate - Different Concept
Anything with the synths tuned down... it's just a bit fresh and original to me...
PS. Played my first BIG party tonight... just playing prog/house.. I did okay, messed up the first few but did well for the rest. I played all the big house tracks too... one girl came up to me and asked for me to burn a copy of Love Story Vs Finally by itself on a CD 
(dark trance only plz)
while I listen to dark trance, what else should I do?
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when i see the words 'dark trance' i think of something kinda spooky, i dunno, like not really uplifting but not too proggy. try some digital blonde tracks, 'Kung Fu Rodriguez - Streak (Original Mix)', 'Arc In The Sky - Vaniquer', 'Azior - Deep And Inside (Original Mix)', 'miika kuisma - orion (misja helsloot remix)', 'Push - Electric Eclips (Tranqua Remix)' try some of those. thats what i kinda think it is. also some psy trance is kinda dark but thats just the way i think it means.
I'd hardly classify CJ Bolland - The Prophet as "dark trance", more like techno to me.
Dark trance has a more sinister feel to it (devoid of gurning hands in the air, i need to hug someone moments), alot of people i think confuse dark with hard. You can have slower dark stuff (i.e. check out the Yunus set floating around from Istanbul, or even check out Juno Reactors Luciana album which is dark ambient - sure to give you horrible nightmares if you should ever be misfortunate enough to fall asleep with it playing).
I would consider John Fleming to be a proponent of dark trance for example.
From off the top of my head I would consider the following as "dark 'insert random decriptor here' trance"
Xenomorph (all tracks/albums i.e. Cassandras Nightmare, Qlippoth)
Dark Soho - Gothic Prayer
Dark Soho - Suckobus
Anne Clark - Our Darkness (total eclipse remix)
Metatron - Shangri-La
ASYS - DJ/Acid Nightmare (pretty much most ASYS stuff and others off tracid traxx)
Azior - Sunset at Myvatn
Subsphere - Infinite/Sweetfragrance
Amoeba Assasin - Speedway Revisited
Arome - Visions of Paradise (Scot Project mix)
Most of the J00F label
Quivver - Space Manouvers part 3
The Horrorist - One Night in NYC
etc...
never heard of a dark trance track before what does it sound like???
You should ask Jon Noonan. He's been labelled the king of 'Dark Trance' in Perth according to the Outbreed IV Flyer 
I think the problem is that that these days, people confuse a description with a genre.
Someone is describing what the music sounds like, it doesn't have to be a genre unto itself.
That said, I don't think The Prophet could really be described as "dark trance" .. like someone else said, "dark trance" is just dark, evil sounding trance music. Artists like F&W, DJ Choose, etc.
Brainbug - Nightmare........ The original and still the best!
Dark trance is really (in general) just an offshoot of the darker elements of psytrance in my experience. It is most certainly not a genre of its own! However, in this genre-mad society of ours - whos to say what classifies as a genre and what as just a description! 
well i suppose it would be what i like to play a lot of.
I have never really called it dark trance, more just driving trance. J00F style.
Also tracks like Mark Norman - Phantom manor would be one.
Kinda techy, driving, proggy trance rather than the really predictable uplifting melodies.
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| Originally posted by muli Kinda techy, driving, proggy trance rather than the really predictable uplifting melodies. |
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| Originally posted by Teknoscaper. You should ask Jon Noonan. He's been labelled the king of 'Dark Trance' in Perth according to the Outbreed IV Flyer |
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| Originally posted by ONION the more and more u post, the more I think you actually have the right idea : ) |
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| Originally posted by ONION the more and more u post, the more I think you actually have the right idea : ) |
jam x - warriors. 
any tune with spoken german scares me.
ahh this is interesting.. ever since I started putting choons in my rekid box I have always separated my tracks into 4 groups.. progressive, melodic, dark and uplifting.
see pic here: (from RUSH at Icebox)
http://www.residentadvisor.com.au/viewphotos.asp?i=photos/syd040514rush/dsc02068.jpg
I guess I could classiffy most of my dark stuff as tech trance or techno with a harsher melody than melodic trance.
Igor S - Boomerang
Tiesto Traffic / Love Comes Again
Innergy - Crashtest Comet
Ferry Corsten - Punk/Right Of Way
Joop - Sonzus
Rankdy Katana - One Solid Wave
That sort of stuff is what I call dark..
but evern uplifting can be dark.. such as Urban Shakedown... it sounds 'dark' to me.
I wouldn't call dark trance a genre, but more a description of what tech trance sounds like.
Scottie
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| Originally posted by starsurfer ahh this is interesting.. ever since I started putting choons in my rekid box I have always separated my tracks into 4 groups.. progressive, melodic, dark and uplifting. see pic here: (from RUSH at Icebox) http://www.residentadvisor.com.au/viewphotos.asp?i=photos/syd040514rush/dsc02068.jpg I guess I could classiffy most of my dark stuff as tech trance or techno with a harsher melody than melodic trance. Igor S - Boomerang Tiesto Traffic / Love Comes Again Innergy - Crashtest Comet Ferry Corsten - Punk/Right Of Way Joop - Sonzus Rankdy Katana - One Solid Wave That sort of stuff is what I call dark.. but evern uplifting can be dark.. such as Urban Shakedown... it sounds 'dark' to me. I wouldn't call dark trance a genre, but more a description of what tech trance sounds like. Scottie |
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| Originally posted by Teknoscaper. You should ask Jon Noonan. He's been labelled the king of 'Dark Trance' in Perth according to the Outbreed IV Flyer |
Stuff i find dark.
Green Martian - Industry, wizardry
Pale X - hibernation etc
Ron van den beuken stuff
Solar Factor- No return
Dirty bass tracks
Marco V- Atlanta 02.02.2002
Usually stuff you may end a trance set with to vary it up a little.
less with synths, more with driving drum loops, melodies has a 'heavy' feel sometimes, not as much happy thoughts...
goa - psy has many of those 'dark elements' imo.. :P
Dark Trance;
Brooding, never really takes off, doesnt peak (rarely does), often with a slight "echoie" bassline, rythmic.
You get the feeling that if u close your eyes u connect deeper with the DJ.
Apparently it's the same feeling people get from "Deep house", (though i cant say i have managed the connection to deep house as of yet)
From what i read of this thread i didnt really agree with them, I think you should listen to some remixes by Markus Schulz such as...
Oceanlab - Satellite (Markus Schulz Coldharbour Remix)
Mark Otten - Tranquility (Markus Schulz Coldharbour Remix)
Airwave - Lady Blue (Markus Schulz Coldharbour Remix)
Markus Schulz presents Elevation - Somewhere [Clear Blue](Markus Schulz Coldharbour Remix)
Strangly enough you can find these on Markus Schulz latest album "Coldharbour"
Listen to these songs, and the originals, and you will here the difference between Trance and DARK Trance
If anyone wants to disagree fine, this is my opinion and the one held by Armin Van Buuren, guess he knows a thing or two about trance
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Schulz
say what?
Thanks for that, i was in a rush, but still, considering i have his CD i should really know
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