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Posted by subuddha on May-30-2004 13:18:

i am thinking of going to greenland. do you know anything about it?

as most of you figured out from the subject, i am thinking of going to Greenland. thing is, i dont really know why. i know it sounds strange but i have come across Greenland a lot lately. people talking about on the radio or mentioning it in books. something makes me want to go there, but i dont know much about the island then that the nature is special and that you can experience midnight sun during the summers.

has anyone been there? can you tell me what it is like?


Posted by stamper on May-30-2004 13:24:

From memort Greenland has a lot of ice, whereas Iceland has more green.

Also Bjork is from there right?


Posted by subuddha on May-30-2004 13:26:

quote:
Originally posted by stamper
From memort Greenland has a lot of ice, whereas Iceland has more green.

Also Bjork is from there right?


yep.
iceland - bjork
greenland - 85% of island is covered with ice


Posted by Echo of Silence on May-30-2004 13:44:

Re: i am thinking of going to greenland. do you know anything about it?

quote:
Originally posted by subuddha
as most of you figured out from the subject, i am thinking of going to Greenland. thing is, i dont really know why. i know it sounds strange but i have come across Greenland a lot lately. people talking about on the radio or mentioning it in books. something makes me want to go there, but i dont know much about the island then that the nature is special and that you can experience midnight sun during the summers.

has anyone been there? can you tell me what it is like?


Yes. It is beautiful. The most beautiful land imagineable. There are not many people and most of the people with whom I personally interacted did not speak English or Danish very well but I was not in Nuuk for long. Maybe the inhabitants of Nuuk and other southern cities, speak English. Greenlander is inuit and words from all of our languages (maybe more from Finland than the others) but it's easy to understand, less easy to speak at first. Do you like to hike or rock climb? Ski or kayak? Fish? If you want to live there, life is harder because there are less amenities, less conveniences, and when I lived there everything seemed very expensive but I had no other experience with budgeting or buying so maybe it isn't as expensive as I thought. I'm not sure what you would like to know; I think now you can enroll in a workcamp for a month in the summer. I dunno, you might have to be Danish for that.


Posted by whiskers on May-30-2004 15:28:

it's cold there and beautiful


i wanna move there too


Posted by N|te-L|fe on May-31-2004 12:00:

Doesnt look too green to me


Posted by Mista on May-31-2004 12:27:

looks cold...


Posted by ShadoWolf on May-31-2004 12:46:

Why not just visit northern Sweden? Wouldn't that be easier?


Posted by Smeagol on May-31-2004 12:54:

was thinking that as well. You can get midnight sun with as much as +20 Celsius with a bit of luck. And almost as deserted if you go hiking in the mountains (Sarek for example). And it is possible to comunicate with people in english.

But I guess Greenland is more extreme.

EDIT DISCLAIMER:
But without luck, which is normally the case, it will be 0 to +5 celsius, constant rain and a ridicilous amount of mosquitos...


Posted by blazed it on May-31-2004 12:56:

swedish bikini team vs. inuit bikini team


Posted by subuddha on May-31-2004 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Why not just visit northern Sweden? Wouldn't that be easier?


i understnad your point. but i have been there, did my army training for 10 months up north. experienced a lot that i still treasure. i think Greenland is interesting because its closeness to the ocean, because of the low number of inhabitants and because i would like to travel and see something i havent seen before. i read a story by a man that had sat by the ocean, whatching icebergs drift in the water, the sun setting and not a single person for miles around. (for those of you familiar with buddhism/meditation, he experienced Source at that point)

it sounded like a beautiful experience and has stuck in my head. Sweden cant give that, it can give a lot of other equally beautiful things, but it doesnt feel as magic when it is in your own backyard i guess.


Posted by Smeagol on May-31-2004 13:31:

quote:
Originally posted by subuddha
i understnad your point. but i have been there, did my army training for 10 months up north.


ok, Uppsala. forklarar ju en del. Didn't notice your location. Sorry. A swedish flag would help.

Then go to Greenland!


Posted by torontotrance on May-31-2004 15:53:

I've had friends visit Greenland, they say it is an extremely beautiful place. Owned by Denmark, they tell me that you see links to that. They say if you love to see vikings stuff, iceland and greenland and norway are ace.


Posted by ShadoWolf on May-31-2004 16:32:

Satan (eek!) Greenland (Denmark) and Canada are at war!!!

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/.../403447-ap.html

Denmark, Canada downplay squabble
By JAN M. OLSEN
Storm delays Arctic patrol


COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) - Canada and Denmark are not at odds over a tiny barren island off northwestern Greenland, officials said Wednesday as they downplayed suggestions that the icebound rock was causing a trans-Atlantic squabble.

Both countries claim sovereignty over the 1.3-square-kilometre Hans Island, roughly 1,100 kilometres south of the North Pole. "Denmark believes that it's part of Greenland and the Canadians have the same opinion but just the other way around," said Peter Taksoe-Jensen of the Foreign Ministry's international department.

Greenland, the world's largest island, is a semi-autonomous Danish territory.

Since 1973, when Canada and Denmark drew a border down the inhospitable strait halfway between Greenland and Canada's Ellesmere Island, the countries have decided that sovereignty over Hans Island and others in the Arctic region would be determined later, Taksoe-Jensen said.

"We didn't have the precise technological measurement methods that we have nowadays," he said, adding that who owns what is still being discussed 31 years later.

Recent Canadian news reports said the Danish navy has raised the flag while visiting the windy, rocky island. In Denmark, however, the story goes that Canadian sailors hoist the Maple Leaf flag when they set foot there.

The Danish navy patrols areas of northern Greenland at sea and on land to maintain a Danish presence in the vast Arctic area.

"There is a no crisis, there is no dispute," stressed Alex Jensen, a Danish navy spokesman.

Hans Island can only be reached during mild summers when the ice melts. The Danish navy did so in 2002 and 2003. "Before that, it was in 1988," Jensen said.

"It's an old story," said Erik Rosenstand, a spokesman with the Canadian Embassy in Copenhagen. "There is nothing dramatic about all this."

Both Rosenstand and Taksoe-Jensen denied reports that a Canadian diplomat had been summoned to the Danish Foreign Ministry over the issue.

"No one has been summoned," Rosenstand said. "If someone is summoned, it means serious matter."


Posted by blazed it on May-31-2004 19:21:

you can eat fish with anti-freeze proteins in their blood.

oh yeah and bring some snow goggles, don't want you to get blinded by the artic sun.


Posted by P4z! on May-31-2004 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by subuddha
i read a story by a man that had sat by the ocean, whatching icebergs drift in the water, the sun setting and not a single person for miles around. (for those of you familiar with buddhism/meditation, he experienced Source at that point)


I'm interested in buddhism and meditation, where can I read this story?


Posted by Echo of Silence on May-31-2004 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by N|te-L|fe
Doesnt look too green to me


Ah, that is a glacier. The vegetation is very very green in the south in the summer. The most brilliant green. And we have the most beautiful lakes in the world. There are very pure colors...the white glaciers are so white they are blue. And the water can be deep purple or on lower grounds, bright turquoise. It is very striking.

I never saw an iceberg noticeably drift. But I have seen avalanches while hiking. They sound like bombs.

The temperature always feels less severe than it actually is. 0 degrees does not feel like 0 degrees. It maybe feels like 10.


Posted by subuddha on May-31-2004 23:13:

quote:
Originally posted by P4z!
I'm interested in buddhism and meditation, where can I read this story?


Nukunu Larsen wrote a book called the true rebellion (swe: Den sanna revolutionen).
it kan be ordered from Regnb�gsf�rlaget in Sweden (i think you still can buy it). or check his homepage http://www.youarethat.dk/rebellion.htm

he only mentions greenland breifly though, a few sentences, but his book is definitely worth a read. very interesting on how he realized himself. he has written another one called "not until you die" but i liked his first book more.


Posted by Turbonium on Jun-01-2004 02:53:

I definitely want to visit Greenland one day, but I'd visit Iceland first if possible.


Posted by whiskers on Jun-01-2004 03:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Echo of Silence
I never saw an iceberg noticeably drift. But I have seen avalanches while hiking. They sound like bombs.



damn, that's awesome!!!

i wanna see some avalanches


Posted by montie on Jun-01-2004 03:02:

bring me along!

i really wanna go to greenland


Posted by Smeagol on Jun-01-2004 06:50:

Have you read "Smillas kansla for sno"? Is a lot about greenland there. Don't know the English title...


Posted by diffusion on Jun-01-2004 11:29:

Re: i am thinking of going to greenland. do you know anything about it?

quote:
Originally posted by subuddha
as most of you figured out from the subject, i am thinking of going to Greenland. thing is, i dont really know why. i know it sounds strange but i have come across Greenland a lot lately. people talking about on the radio or mentioning it in books. something makes me want to go there, but i dont know much about the island then that the nature is special and that you can experience midnight sun during the summers.


Simple answer: Visit Norway!
Rock climbing in huge mountains, explore vast ice-caves and mind-boggling glaciers. Unforgettable experiences...
Midnight sun is also an amazing experience, and we have guaranteed nice weather in the summer season.
And then there's Norwegian girls, who are just as nice as the Swedish, only they have bigger boobs.
http://www.visitnorway.com/ <- have a look here.

oh yeah, bring loads of cash!


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jun-01-2004 12:00:

Yeah I've heard a lot of good things about Norway. I'm probably going there next year.

A friend of mine from Sweden hates Sweden and says it's the most depressing country in the world.


Edit: if Denmark continues to invade Canada, I might be visiting Denmark next year as well... with a batallion.


Posted by subuddha on Jun-01-2004 13:36:

Re: Re: i am thinking of going to greenland. do you know anything about it?

quote:
Originally posted by diffusion
...And then there's Norwegian girls, who are just as nice as the Swedish, only they have bigger boobs.


you have convinced me! i like that in a woman. be seeing you this summer...


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