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Posted by fbgdavidson on May-30-2004 20:46:

Best DJ or producer for sampling

I recently acquired the James Zabiela Essential Mix from February 04 and have been admiring his at times quirky sampling, the Daleks for example!

I was in the library revising for exams earlier and listening to William Orbit - Strange Cargo III, a minidisc I've had and been listening to very frequently for around five years and began to notice how much sampling he uses, almost continuously in one form or another, and very imaginative too

Any other nominations?

Posted by Torley Wong on May-30-2004 22:28:

Sure, some easy, admirable candidates for obvious reasons, basically constructing whole songs out of a hodgepodge of samples and it sounds sooo cool:

DJ Shadow
The Avalanches

There are a lot of names I'm forgetting right now. I like the use of Nina Simone on BT & Tsunami One's "Hip-Hop Phenomenon" which was a really subtle but well-placed sample... one of those "Where have I heard THAT before?!?" moments that'll leave you scratching your cosmic head because the sample's been so warped.

Zabiela is showing a great sense of humor, I like that a lot.

Another obvious but good choice is Prodigy -- they've sampled more than a few of their well known beats, riffs, and hooks, and made them work in a new context... from the Art of Noise "hey hey hey!" in "Firestarter" to the Wu-Tang swords in "Breathe" to their first big single, "Charly" with its cat PSA.

Posted by torontotrance on May-30-2004 22:32:

Fat Boy Slim but the king of them all is either Coldcut or Tom Jedi Middleton.

Posted by Torley Wong on May-30-2004 22:36:

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Originally posted by torontotrance
Fat Boy Slim but the king of them all is either Coldcut or Tom Jedi Middleton.

OH MY GOSH flog me for forgetting this, especially I was just watching the "Natural Rhythm" vid the other day. Good picks...

and if Coldcut is named, pretty much the bulk of the Ninja Tune roster like Amon Tobin have to be named too

Hey which Tom "The Jedi" Middleton tracks do you like for specific examples of sampling (and source of samples too), torontotrance?

Posted by A.J. on May-30-2004 22:40:

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Originally posted by aspergian

The Avalanches

Frontier Pyschiatrist!!! "That boy needs therapy....he's crazy in the coconut!"

Whatever happened to them? They had a couple of awesome songs, but then i haven't heard anything about them in years.

I remember Since I Left You was a great track as well.

Posted by torontotrance on May-30-2004 22:41:

Coldcut were the first really besides double dee and steinski to do it. Coldcut started Ninja Tune btw

listen to 70 mins of dj madness then tell me that they don't deserve it.

Posted by Torley Wong on May-30-2004 22:43:

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Originally posted by torontotrance
Coldcut were the first really besides double dee and steinski to do it. Coldcut started Ninja Tune btw

listen to 70 mins of dj madness then tell me that they don't deserve it.

Yeah I agree, Coldcut are definitely pioneers and they really started a chain reaction of cause-and-effect... or, sample-and-resample haha... oh hey what Tom Middleton tracks with heavy sampling would you recommend?

Vigilante, good question. I don't know what happened to them.

One thing in common with a lot of these proficient sampling artists:

GREAT VIDEOS!!!

Posted by fbgdavidson on May-30-2004 23:01:

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Originally posted by Vigilante
Frontier Pyschiatrist!!! "That boy needs therapy....he's crazy in the coconut!"

Whatever happened to them? They had a couple of awesome songs, but then i haven't heard anything about them in years.

I remember Since I Left You was a great track as well.

Completely forgot about The Avalanches, I bought that album a few summers back too

DJ Dexter from Avalanches plays the Orange Rooms here in Southampton every few months or so, not sure what kind of crowd he draws because all my going out mates in Southampton think going to get smashed off your faces on cheap vodka and dancing to 80s crap is a great night out.

NB. It can be a good night out
NB2. Some 80s music is good
NB3. Getting smashed is fun, of course
NB4. I'd rather go to London and watch some proper DJs play rather than hopeless tarts playing the same set of smelly DJ Sammy cheese over and over again in Southampton

Posted by A.J. on May-30-2004 23:08:

Southampton eh? You a fan of James Beattie??

Anyway i have to agree with aspergian that the Avalanches are great samplers, and they had great videos.

I would think that guys like Mixmaster Mike would be pretty sick with all the sampling and scratching and general craziness on the decks.

Posted by fbgdavidson on May-30-2004 23:42:

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Originally posted by Vigilante
Southampton eh? You a fan of James Beattie??

I dont actively support Southampton but they are the nearest semi-decent team to where I live (At Uni in Southampton, home is elsewhere) and so I like to see them do well. I'm not going to do somersaults if they win the Premiership and I'm not going to cry if they get relegated.

A friend of mine from school (this is British school, 11-18yrs) actually lives next door to James Beattie in Chilworth, a village just north of the city. At one of this bashes there Artful Dodger (also from Southampton) DJed and my friend went over there and hung out with half the Southampton team, sounded like a good laugh to me