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on june 13 (UK 10th i think?) is the election to the european parliament

i don't know if anyone here cares about it but yeah perhaps

anyhow, i think i am going to vote for Folkpartiet who's a member of the "The European Liberal Democrats and Reformers" group in the parliament.

Here's a list of groups + some info about their policies:

The European Liberal Democrats and Reformers (ELDR)
-Open up EU to make it more democratized.
-Fight discrimination
-Personal freedom > war on terror
-Make a REAL single market in europe.
-fight the bureaucracy of the EU's institutions.
-Making europe the leader of environmental protection and public health problems
-make globalisation work for everyone (opening up EUs markets, targeted aid)
-Reform the common agricultural policy (!!!!!!!!!!)
-Europe shall speak with one voice in world affairs (and use force when necessarily)

Group of the European People's Party (EPP)
-Common voice in world affairs and common use of force
-promote human rights in the whole world.
-Fight terrorism
-Fight illegal immigrants.
-Ecomomic growth
-Research and Education
-Open up EU to make it more democratized
-better environment / food
-protect the farmers

Socialist Group (PSE)
Bah, something wrong with their website, so i couldn't check their policies =/

European United Left/Nordic Green Left (GUE/NGL)
no info at their website really :S guess they suck anyway seems like the parties in the group have really different opinions too.

Union for Europe of the Nations Group (UEN)
basically anti EU parties. stands for the freedom of nations to decide.

The Greens/European Free Alliance (Greens/EFA)
-A lot of environmental policies (obviously )
-Human rights
-gender equality
-promote social issues
-protect public services
-harmonized corporate taxes
-Promote free software
-Stimulate euro film industry
-stimulate euro sports
-one seat in the UN security concil
-make EU institutions more open and green

Group for a Europe of Democracies and Diversities (EDD)
Also anti EU, but more.

Heh, it's a hard decision...I know that I won't be able to vote for the EU parliament for at least 3 more years until we join the EU, but even if I could, there is no party that supports large scale space program, nuclear power, federative government and big science investments. So I guess I'd either go with ELDP or maybe the PSE...

Would you care to post some sort of an overview of those parties' programs? I'm too lazy to search for all of them.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Heh, it's a hard decision...I know that I won't be able to vote for the EU parliament for at least 3 more years until we join the EU, but even if I could, there is no party that supports large scale space program, nuclear power, federative government and big science investments. So I guess I'd either go with ELDP or maybe the PSE... Would you care to post some sort of an overview of those parties' programs? I'm too lazy to search for all of them.

have updated my first post with some info about the groups. i'm not sure about everyones policies, but this is from their websites so and don't forget that this is just groups, there may be different opinions within them

what is ELDP?

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Originally posted by mixinmusic I am voting to get my country out of the EU political establishment.

i didn't know you had an election about leaving EU

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Originally posted by St_Andrew have updated my first post with some info about the groups. i'm not sure about everyones policies, but this is from their websites so and don't forget that this is just groups, there may be different opinions within them what is ELDP?

I meant ELDR, sorry.

Yea, I'd probably be for them too.

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Originally posted by mixinmusic you dont but the European election will reflect the countries stance on the issue.

yeah but if you want to get out of the EU you should vote for an anti EU party in your parliament elections...

Re: EU elections

Hmmm let's see:

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Originally posted by St_Andrew on june 13 (UK 10th i think?) is the election to the european parliament i don't know if anyone here cares about it but yeah perhaps anyhow, i think i am going to vote for Folkpartiet who's a member of the "The European Liberal Democrats and Reformers" group in the parliament. Here's a list of groups + some info about their policies: The European Liberal Democrats and Reformers (ELDR) -Open up EU to make it more democratized. -Fight discrimination <> -Personal freedom > war on terror < war on drugs>> -Make a REAL single market in europe. <> -fight the bureaucracy of the EU's institutions. -Making europe the leader of environmental protection and public health problems <public health???? SOCIALIST!!!>> -make globalisation work for everyone (opening up EUs markets, targeted aid) -Reform the common agricultural policy (!!!!!!!!!!) <> -Europe shall speak with one voice in world affairs (and use force when necessarily) <> Group of the European People's Party (EPP) <> -Common voice in world affairs and common use of force -promote human rights in the whole world. <> -Fight terrorism -Fight illegal immigrants. -Ecomomic growth -Research and Education -Open up EU to make it more democratized -better environment / food <> -protect the farmers Socialist Group (PSE) <> Bah, something wrong with their website, so i couldn't check their policies =/ <> European United Left/Nordic Green Left (GUE/NGL) <> no info at their website really :S guess they suck anyway seems like the parties in the group have really different opinions too. Union for Europe of the Nations Group (UEN) <Union for Europe of the Nations Group? Soviet Union!!!>> basically anti EU parties. stands for the freedom of nations to decide. The Greens/European Free Alliance (Greens/EFA) -A lot of environmental policies (obviously )<> -Human rights <> -gender equality <> -promote social issues <> -protect public services <> -harmonized corporate taxes <> -Promote free software <> -Stimulate euro film industry <> -stimulate euro sports <> -one seat in the UN security concil -make EU institutions more open and green <> Group for a Europe of Democracies and Diversities (EDD) Also anti EU, but more. <>

So many socialists!!! Where's Yoepus? He'll back me up.

really interesting and good job u made erik congrats = )
i think ur idead of voting for the ones u said is good but as i told u yeah i think the EPP got some interesting ideas ....but yeah we need to reform a lot of things in UE

mmh about france we got 41 parties so yeah don't expect i do like erik ....it would take too much time and btw here even the parties don't really care about being european deputy ...it's just one more function and not a function itself ...lack of motivation and lack of informations for the citizens ....i guess an another reason why almost no one cares here about these elections ...

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Originally posted by mixinmusic I am voting to get my country out of the EU political establishment.

What candidate is advocating that you leave the EU. You appear to be from Ireland (like myself) so I should know of whoever you're on about.

Anyway I haven't decided myself. I must look into it in more detail and vote for whoever I believe hold the interests of the people of my constituency in highest priority. Going by some of the MEPs we have at present that isn't the case. They seem to be more interested in fitting in with the 'big boys' regardless of what's happening at home.

Those candidates who, if elected, will become part of the EPP will not be getting my vote. I'm completely against Common Security and Defence Policy and the further erosion of what's left of our neutrality. From what I can see they are the biggest players in this area.

I think this is what mixinmusic means:



Looks good to me!

goddamned new world order crap...FUCK!

no, seriously I wish I knew more.

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Originally posted by occrider So many socialists!!! Where's Yoepus? He'll back me up.

The vast number of socialist parties is just an indication of the socialists not being able to join forces.
I'm not totally sure, but I do not think that each of the socialist parties carry the same weight as the right wing/liberal parties do, in terms of seats. That may be a vain hope on my part, though.

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Originally posted by trancaholic The vast number of socialist parties is just an indication of the socialists not being able to join forces. I'm not totally sure, but I do not think that each of the socialist parties carry the same weight as the right wing/liberal parties do, in terms of seats. That may be a vain hope on my part, though.

which party will be enforcing an embargo on zionist mustard?

or is that just the french

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Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l really interesting and good job u made erik congrats = ) i think ur idead of voting for the ones u said is good but as i told u yeah i think the EPP got some interesting ideas ....but yeah we need to reform a lot of things in UE mmh about france we got 41 parties so yeah don't expect i do like erik ....it would take too much time and btw here even the parties don't really care about being european deputy ...it's just one more function and not a function itself ...lack of motivation and lack of informations for the citizens ....i guess an another reason why almost no one cares here about these elections ...

I must admit that I also like the EPP program, but I wouldn't vote for them because of the christian attribute they always point out and because they insist on having christianity be put into the constitution.

poor St. Andrew.

Don't you guys have anyone their running on the Republican ticket?

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Originally posted by tathi which party will be enforcing an embargo on zionist mustard? or is that just the french

What do you mean?

We stopped exporting to Europe after 2000 (this might explain why Europeans have become even more bitter).

America is our market, they get it

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Originally posted by mixinmusic 3 of the 4 main parties in my country have a Euro sceptic outlook and only the SDLP are pro European. I have the chance to vote for UUP DUP Sinn Fein and the SDLP plus some stupid candidates. It looks like the 3 candidates who will win the 3 European seats for Northern Ireland will be Euro sceptics so does that mean this country should withdraw from the EU!? I hope so.....

Well they could be described as 'Euro-sceptic' I suppose, but I don't think any of the three main 'Euro-sceptic' parties are actually advocating pulling out of the EU, for example, with PSF, who are traditionally seen as against Europe really aren't. They're critical of many aspects of EU and directions it has taken over recent years (and rightly so are critical). They're anti centralisation of power, and militarisation of the Union. DUP are arguing for the pound to be kept, etc. as it infringes on sovereignty.

Maybe some of the other less known candidates in the occupied counties are advocating pulling out of the EU, but they'll make no impact. My guess is simliar to yours I think, with the three big parties taking seats in the 6 counties at the expense of SDLP. And PSF may take as many as three seats (six counties, Dublin, North-west) or possibly none

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I must admit that I also like the EPP program, but I wouldn't vote for them because of the christian attribute they always point out and because they insist on having christianity be put into the constitution.

hmm i always thought you was a commie (ie not even think of voting conservative)

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Originally posted by St_Andrew hmm i always thought you was a commie (ie not even think of voting conservative)

Meh, since there's no commie party, I'm totally stranded. On one hand there are the damn hippie tree huggers who don't like nuclear power and science, on the other there are christian conservatives who don't like atheism and socialism, and the socialists are nowhere near to what they used to be. No revolutionary ideas, no urban guerilla, no cold war threats, no stuck up uniforms with nice red stars....meh...I'll form my own party once I get the chance to.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Meh, since there's no commie party, I'm totally stranded. On one hand there are the damn hippie tree huggers who don't like nuclear power and science, on the other there are christian conservatives who don't like atheism and socialism, and the socialists are nowhere near to what they used to be. No revolutionary ideas, no urban guerilla, no cold war threats, no stuck up uniforms with nice red stars....meh...I'll form my own party once I get the chance to.

i feel sorry for you

move to north korea

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Originally posted by St_Andrew i feel sorry for you move to north korea

Truly, there is no other worker's paradise like it!

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Originally posted by St_Andrew i feel sorry for you move to north korea

You know, I've kinda been thinking about giving them a tourist visit, Pyongyang looks pretty nice on all those photos...

I for one don't give a hoot about European Parliment elections.

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Originally posted by emander I for one don't give a hoot about European Parliment elections.

Great, so why are you subjecting us to the tedious task of reading your (highly informative) post?

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