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Posted by trancaholic on Jun-05-2004 18:51:

Effects of "The Day After Tomorrow"?

Considering the talk about "Fahrenheit 9/11" and its effect on the upcoming US-elections, I was wondering whether the blatantly critical attitude of "The Day After Tomorrow" has had any effect on the public debate in the US? Any USTAs who want to enlighten me?


Posted by smokeape on Jun-05-2004 19:13:

Movies don't shape American politics. Attacking Saudi oil fields do though.


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Posted by mps242 on Jun-05-2004 19:14:

Thankfully most people are aware that the Day After Tomorrow has no basis in reality... So the only people who this movie will impact are the type of people who probably wouldn't be voting to begin with...


Posted by razmataz on Jun-05-2004 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by mps242
Thankfully most people are aware that the Day After Tomorrow has no basis in reality... So the only people who this movie will impact are the type of people who probably wouldn't be voting to begin with...


Actually the science behind the movie was very real. About how the excess fresh water will affect ocean salinity and cause the reversal of a the Atlantic stream - the only thing that is keeping europe warmer than north america in the winter.

As soon as the stream reverses, it will be a matter of months before extreme weather conditions arise and a potential climate shift begins. Actually, some argue that the stream is slowing down and we are already seeing the effects with the unusal amounts of snow in North East America over the past 3 winters, the extreme heatwave in Europe last summer, Hurricanes that occur more often, Extreme cold/heat in India etc.

So no, the movie was not completely bullspit. Just the fact that all this happened in 2 hours

And this is one summer movie that I certainly hope people DO buy into.


Posted by Spankster on Jun-05-2004 20:15:

I was in stitches laughing at the bit when mexico closed its borders on the US refugee's.


Posted by Shakka on Jun-05-2004 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by razmataz
Actually the science behind the movie was very real. About how the excess fresh water will affect ocean salinity and cause the reversal of a the Atlantic stream - the only thing that is keeping europe warmer than north america in the winter.

As soon as the stream reverses, it will be a matter of months before extreme weather conditions arise and a potential climate shift begins. Actually, some argue that the stream is slowing down and we are already seeing the effects with the unusal amounts of snow in North East America over the past 3 winters, the extreme heatwave in Europe last summer, Hurricanes that occur more often, Extreme cold/heat in India etc.

So no, the movie was not completely bullspit. Just the fact that all this happened in 2 hours

And this is one summer movie that I certainly hope people DO buy into.


Surely you must be joking. Anyone who takes this movie seriously needs a tall glass of reality juice. The way I see it, most of the natural disaster movies have been done. Dante's Peak, Twister, Armageddon, Deep Impact, Volcano, you name it. The only movie I'm aware of that actually has any factual basis to it that fits in the category is The Perfect Storm, which was still sensationalized. I think someone just couldn't think of a new concept so they went for the gusto and tried to make the mother of all disaster movies. I don't think I'm going to get too worked up about the next in a long line of mega-budget, special effects riddled, "summer action movie" that's devoid of any real substance.


Posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l on Jun-05-2004 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Spankster
I was in stitches laughing at the bit when mexico closed its borders on the US refugee's.


haha the same ....it was so wierd and funny but if it was real it wouldn't be AT ALL


Posted by BadBadNeil on Jun-05-2004 20:42:

After the movie was released a bunch of "experts" where on the news and to sum it up stated that some of the events were definetely possible but not over the course of a weekend, perhaps over the course of 100 years or so. It got a few people talking but when the movie dies the talking dies and we will continue on our current path until its too late


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-05-2004 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Surely you must be joking. Anyone who takes this movie seriously needs a tall glass of reality juice. The way I see it, most of the natural disaster movies have been done. Dante's Peak, Twister, Armageddon, Deep Impact, Volcano, you name it. The only movie I'm aware of that actually has any factual basis to it that fits in the category is The Perfect Storm, which was still sensationalized. I think someone just couldn't think of a new concept so they went for the gusto and tried to make the mother of all disaster movies. I don't think I'm going to get too worked up about the next in a long line of mega-budget, special effects riddled, "summer action movie" that's devoid of any real substance.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...7_DayAfter.html

"How realistic is this movie?

It has a kernel of truth, although it has been "Hollywoodized." There is evidence that abrupt climate change has happened a couple of times in the last 13,000 years, but it's never happened in a few days, as it does in the movie. That's completely impossible. "

ie, watch it like Michel Moores movies, it has a point, even tho it really exaggergates it.


Posted by trancaholic on Jun-05-2004 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
After the movie was released a bunch of "experts" where on the news and to sum it up stated that some of the events were definetely possible but not over the course of a weekend, perhaps over the course of 100 years or so. It got a few people talking but when the movie dies the talking dies and we will continue on our current path until its too late


Thank you very much - that was the kind of info I was looking for. Did "few people talking" cause any politicians to voice their stand on global warming?


Posted by razmataz on Jun-05-2004 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Surely you must be joking. Anyone who takes this movie seriously needs a tall glass of reality juice. The way I see it, most of the natural disaster movies have been done. Dante's Peak, Twister, Armageddon, Deep Impact, Volcano, you name it. The only movie I'm aware of that actually has any factual basis to it that fits in the category is The Perfect Storm, which was still sensationalized. I think someone just couldn't think of a new concept so they went for the gusto and tried to make the mother of all disaster movies. I don't think I'm going to get too worked up about the next in a long line of mega-budget, special effects riddled, "summer action movie" that's devoid of any real substance.


For purposes of keeping threads sightly I won't post the entire article but here is what a quick search on google brought up

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm

I didnt say i took the movie seriously, but the SCIENCE behind it is plausible and experts have taken that stance before.

The bullshit factor comes in when events we dont expect for hundreds (if not thousands of years) come in the next 2 weeks. Oh and those super-storms, quite cool but I can't imagine enough water vapour to see a hurricane over Northern Canada.


Posted by Psionic on Jun-05-2004 21:08:

I think the movie does have a slight underlying objective to get us to see how our government works. Consider this: the president in the movie was ineffective and left the vice president (who happened to look like Dick Cheney) to make all his decisions. Kind of reminds you of Bush.


Posted by BadBadNeil on Jun-05-2004 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Thank you very much - that was the kind of info I was looking for. Did "few people talking" cause any politicians to voice their stand on global warming?


I didn't recall seeing any politicians saying anything regarding the movie, well politicians with any weight like congressmen or senators. Part of it may be that they don't want to base their opinions on an action movie, as it wasn't a documentary stating pure fact but more of an exageration on some facts.


Posted by smokeape on Jun-05-2004 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Galapidate
I think the movie does have a slight underlying objective to get us to see how our government works. Consider this: the president in the movie was ineffective and left the vice president (who happened to look like Dick Cheney) to make all his decisions. Kind of reminds you of Bush.


What don't you understand? Movies do not influence politics here.


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Posted by tathi on Jun-05-2004 23:23:

were the SFX done in Maya?


Posted by Yoepus on Jun-06-2004 00:09:

I think the US prez in this movie was portrayed in a favorable light actually - with him being the last to leave and working steadfastly for his country n all


Posted by TrueToTheCrew on Jun-06-2004 18:39:

but wasnt the world suppose to end 3 times already.
WTF.



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