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Posted by Zack Roth on Jun-07-2004 02:24:

Xone: 62 Question...

Just got my Xone 62 today, and am in love with it. Only thing is, it doesn't have a main output jack like my previous mixer (Denon dx400)...I'm just using the record out function to connect to my reciever and getting minimal sound that way. I'm assuming I'm gonna need to get an amp or something to get the full sound. Any suggestions...or is there another way to get around having to get a brand new amp for the setup to work. As it is now...the main mix knob doesn't do anything in terms of volume...only the gains and channel faders.
Also, am I going crazy, or does the xone 62 not allow you to hear eq changes from the headphones?
Thanks.


Posted by Vlad on Jun-07-2004 02:32:

Re: Xone: 62 Question...

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
Also, am I going crazy, or does the xone 62 not allow you to hear eq changes from the headphones?
Thanks.


I noticed this also, I dont think it does.


Posted by Lan-Kern on Jun-07-2004 04:04:

doesnt it have XLR for the main outs?


Posted by nmcog on Jun-07-2004 05:42:

It sure does and thats what you're supposed to use.


Posted by pumavisor808 on Jun-07-2004 16:50:

Re: Re: Xone: 62 Question...

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
I noticed this also, I dont think it does.


Can someone confirm this???


Posted by Vlad on Jun-07-2004 17:02:

Re: Re: Re: Xone: 62 Question...

quote:
Originally posted by pumavisor808
Can someone confirm this???


I have the mixer and I know you cant hear the EQ in the headphones, unless theres something I dont know about.


Posted by Wildfir3 on Jun-07-2004 17:59:

It's true that the EQ doesnt work through the phones. The store I buy my stuff at has an option to enable it though. You just ask for it and they fix the whole thingy somehow. Maybe you could ask for some advice @ the store you bought ur mixer at.


Posted by las3rjock on Jun-07-2004 19:25:

On reading the documentation on the Allen & Heath website, it seems that you can use the Aux sends instead of the Cue button to cue a track and listen to it post-EQ. However, it seems that the default setting for Aux is pre-EQ, and I can't find documentation on how to adjust this setting, so you're best off having a shop do this for you.


Posted by nmcog on Jun-07-2004 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Wildfir3 You just ask for it and they fix the whole thingy somehow.


from http://www.futureproducers.com/user...ws.php/model/43:
quote:
Woth mentioning: you need to perform some internal soldering to have the EQ pre-fader as it comes post-fader in standard form.


Posted by bluu on Jun-08-2004 01:38:

Idea

so what ur saying is that when you have the cue on a channel and you tweak the eq you can't hear it in the headphones? if you cut the bass you still hear it while cued on ur headphones???


Posted by benh on Jun-08-2004 02:30:

just hit the AUX button and then hit the PRE buttons for each channel you are using. Then use the AUX pots instead of the CUE buttons. This will allows you to hear the EQ changes in the headphones. Oh and you still can't hear the filters in the headphones still tho. I prefer Pre-EQ method using the CUEs tho.


Posted by bluu on Jun-08-2004 04:38:

ah ok. i see what ur saying.
one last question:
can the master be heard on ur headphones? in other words: 'cue mixing' or 'master mixing' how ever u would want to call it.


Posted by nmcog on Jun-08-2004 04:48:

Allen&Heath say: "For the very few people who had anything to complain about the Xone 62, the Xone92 was created.
With higher quality faders, separate LED displays on each channel, switchable split cue, pre / post EQ cueing."


Posted by bluu on Jun-08-2004 04:57:

lol. nice. only that they penalize us w/ a $500 extra charge

lol


Posted by nmcog on Jun-08-2004 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by bluu
lol. nice. only that they penalize us w/ a $500 extra charge

lol


yup, ripoff.
also with MIDI capabilities: http://www.allen-heath.com/xone/midi_apps_korg.html


Posted by Zack Roth on Jun-08-2004 14:41:

ok, I tried using the AUX and PRE buttons, but when turn all the eq knobs to the right, the sound obviously gets louder, but all the sound in the headphones switches to the right right cup, and the left cup is left without any sound. This is really getting annoyin. Any increase or decrease in the eqs seems to effect which headphone cup the sound plays out.


Posted by Zack Roth on Jun-09-2004 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Zack Roth
ok, I tried using the AUX and PRE buttons, but when turn all the eq knobs to the right, the sound obviously gets louder, but all the sound in the headphones switches to the right right cup, and the left cup is left without any sound. This is really getting annoyin. Any increase or decrease in the eqs seems to effect which headphone cup the sound plays out.


bump


Posted by kevM on Jun-10-2004 01:54:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
ok, I tried using the AUX and PRE buttons, but when turn all the eq knobs to the right, the sound obviously gets louder, but all the sound in the headphones switches to the right right cup, and the left cup is left without any sound. This is really getting annoyin. Any increase or decrease in the eqs seems to effect which headphone cup the sound plays out.


I think you must have spit cue on which is why the eqing is only happening in 1 phone.

Also when using aux don't use the cue buttons, they override the aux.

I didn't really think it was possible to get the eqs+cueing till reading this thread, when i first got my xone64 i tried, but i must of had the cue button pressed.

I like using the pre eqs, cuz then i can bring a track in with the base and high totally cut and still beatmatch easy.

But i was just thinking the other day ... if i ever play in a club with post-eq it would mess me up. So now I can practice with post-eqing too.


Posted by Zack Roth on Jun-10-2004 03:09:

I really am not a fan of this mixer at all so far. The quality of the sound that comes out of the headphones when using this mixer is really bad...maybe its the lack of eqs in cue mode, but I would consider this a major MAJOR flaw. Took it back today in exchnage for a DJM 600, and like the Pioneer a lot more.


Posted by kevM on Jun-10-2004 03:46:

Humm post-eqing still doesn't quite work ... I messed around with it some more and it seems that when not using the cue button both tracks are played in the head phones even when doing using aux.


Posted by dan_Saviola on Jun-10-2004 04:57:

wait till you see the microphones connection!


Posted by bluu on Jun-15-2004 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by kevM
Humm post-eqing still doesn't quite work ... I messed around with it some more and it seems that when not using the cue button both tracks are played in the head phones even when doing using aux.

I was wondering if anyone has gotten it to work yet? I'm thinking of buying this piece of equipment since the Xone:92 is so damn expensive. How about the Xone:464. Does it have the same malfunctions of the Xone:62?


Posted by hooj1 on Jun-15-2004 04:48:

I have a 464 and I love it to death. I have to admit it took some getting used to but the more I practiced on it the more I liked it. You have to give a new mixer of this quality about two weeks before you decide if you like it or not. The only kinda wierd thing is the pre EQ cue thing. You cannot hear changes in your EQing on the headphones while in cue mode, but you can use aux to get around that.


Posted by james sound on Jun-15-2004 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
I really am not a fan of this mixer at all so far. The quality of the sound that comes out of the headphones when using this mixer is really bad...maybe its the lack of eqs in cue mode, but I would consider this a major MAJOR flaw. Took it back today in exchnage for a DJM 600, and like the Pioneer a lot more.



you made a real bad decision. mind if i ask; exactly whats bad about the quality of sound that comes out of the 1/4 headphone out?


Posted by tu_face on Jun-15-2004 09:14:

Re: Xone: 62 Question...

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
Just got my Xone 62 today, and am in love with it. Only thing is, it doesn't have a main output jack like my previous mixer (Denon dx400)...I'm just using the record out function to connect to my reciever and getting minimal sound that way. I'm assuming I'm gonna need to get an amp or something to get the full sound. Any suggestions...or is there another way to get around having to get a brand new amp for the setup to work. As it is now...the main mix knob doesn't do anything in terms of volume...only the gains and channel faders.


this is because you are using a clean feed output.

go and buy 2 mono jack > phono adapters (or you can buy wires with 2 mono jacks) and stick them in aux out on the back of your mixer, and wire that to your stereo or whatever you are using.


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