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Anyone watching this??? I swear if Martin is elected, I'm gonna dropkick someone - he's a fuckin idiot.

I swear if Harper is elected, I'm gonna dropkick someone - he's a fuckin idiot. I watched it on and off

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Originally posted by Dmatrox I swear if Harper is elected, I'm gonna dropkick someone - he's a fuckin idiot. I watched it on and off

replace idiot with nutter

cmon, we are albertans.
we are the ones who vote for the beligerant drunk as our premier ( GO RALPH! )
we are the heart of the right wing Manning was Calgary South, Day was from Red Deer, but ran in BC, and now Harper is Calgary South (I hate the fact I cant vote green because I want to vote directly against Harper)


now how, with all of those, are we AFRAID of Harper..I mean, I dont agree with any of his platform. I like the liberal platform, but am pissed @ their crookedness. I am very very afraid of the conservative platform, and hey...once harper is elected (as he surely will be), he is my MP. I get to call him up and bitch to him about the way the country goes, both as my MP and possible as my PM...oh god that is scary.

Debate

I love political debates. I find it funny how there is always one guy that thinks the louder he makes his points and opinions the more people will listen!!!! *cough* NDP LEADER AKA MEGAPHONE *cough*

Mind u, I found the debate to be a lot more intelligent than the Bush, Gore debate from a few years back.That isnt saying much but still...

I wasn't saying I dig Harper, but I figure it's time for a change. Martin just came off as an arrogant prick to me. Harper spoke his stuff clear and didn't dodge any of his questions. Layton is cool, but I don't stand for his agenda. and fuck Quebec.

Either way, someone's getting dropkicked.

I have no idea who to vote for...IMO they are all morons. Besides, you're not voting for them, youre voting for some moron who's running in your riding, and quite frankly I don't know any of them. Not to mention that most of them have a tenure and it's more of a popularity contest...If they've been there for a few good years they will stay there....stupid elections

Since I'm voting in Quebec now I don't really have much of a choice but to vote for liberal (unless I want the bloc *shiver*), but despite that, I don't think I could vote for anyone that didn't "accept the science behind global warming." Seriously, fuck Harper.

If the NDP actually had a chance in my riding I'd be voting for them. I though Jack Layton did really well and seemed more interested in his platform than trashing the other candidates.

moronssss

Ya i dont think that any of these guys is fit to run a country. But neither is Bush so what can u do....

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Originally posted by Sean Walsh Since I'm voting in Quebec now I don't really have much of a choice but to vote for liberal (unless I want the bloc *shiver*), but despite that, I don't think I could vote for anyone that didn't "accept the science behind global warming." Seriously, fuck Harper.

I'm NOT siding with harper here, but I also don't believe in global warming. It's a crock.

Harper may seem convincing but that's just him being a sly bastard. He's not getting to the point on many topics and he wants to be more like the US. I, frankly, don't ever want to be more like the US. Sure Martin is struggling to keep a firm hold on his ground but I say him or Layton over Harper any day. So I'm still undecided.

Oh, by the way, the Bloc is a joke.

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Originally posted by Lumps and fuck Quebec.

no no, fuck YOU.

funny how everyone is starting to sway their votes based on how the candidates are coming across, not their platforms

very very against Conservacrap program, Liberals ok. thats basically it for this election... but then again, is it ever any different? Just no charismatic party leader this year

I bet if the liberals had DOn Cherry at the helm, they would sweep!

Arnie started a good trend, should all be celebrities now since no one really cares about politics

Re: National debate

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Originally posted by Lumps Anyone watching this??? I swear if Martin is elected, I'm gonna dropkick someone - he's a fuckin idiot.

AGREED!!!

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Originally posted by malek no no, fuck YOU.

Ok.

But don't get me wrong, what I hate are all the people there talking shit about their goddamn sovereignty. They tarnished my views about Quebec long ago.

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Originally posted by Lumps Ok. But don't get me wrong, what I hate are all the people there talking shit about their goddamn sovereignty. They tarnished my views about Quebec long ago.

ok so you meant, fuck sovernists... thats a bit different, no?

On Election day, I won't be in Calgary to vote, so i went to the office in downtown Calgary today to vote. I'm just sick of all these old fogeys (well, harper's not that old - but still..) who have these platforms that are based on what Canada may or may not have needed 15 years ago. Today is totally different and I think we should shift our interests into other things.

Harper's probably gonna get in. But either way, I supported the Green party this time around. Yup, voted GREEN. I know they may not make it. But over the years, I have faith that people will start listening to them and taking them seriously. They have a lot of good ideas that I liked. But i know not everyone agrees. Well, at least I voted. I really wish more people would vote. Damn it, I can't believe how many people I've met so far that aren't voting. LAME! VOTE!!

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Originally posted by Fil Harper may seem convincing but that's just him being a sly bastard. He's not getting to the point on many topics and he wants to be more like the US. I, frankly, don't ever want to be more like the US. Sure Martin is struggling to keep a firm hold on his ground but I say him or Layton over Harper any day. So I'm still undecided. Oh, by the way, the Bloc is a joke.

Yup..Bloc IS a Joke. I mean come on..do you seriously think you're going to get elected with an attitude like that? Why would anyone give the keys to this country to a lunatic who's probably all bent out of shape about the rest of Canada and will separate it later on. Fuck that. You just know if the Bloc ever got in that they would do everything in their power to benefit citizens of Quebec while leaving the rest of the country to rot and giving it the shaft.

The other idiot I saw that was running for the "Christian Heritage Party" here's another nimrod.. Trying to meld Religious beliefs with state. In a country as multicultural as Canada...how the fuck are you going to get votes when you're pushing anti-gay laws, and basically trying to make the bible the new Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Fuck off and get real. In this day and age, you're never going to win any respect or votes if you're beakin' off about how gay people are hurting themselves and the rest of society. I'm not gay, but I stand by thier right to do whatever the fuck they want. Why is someone else's private life in their bedroom any of our business? It's not. If they want to marry, shit, they can get married, who cares? But that's just my opinion. I think there are a lot bigger problems in the country than gays wanting to marry. Good thing this party doesn't really stand a chance..i'd hate to see a party like that have power. Pfff...Tea Bag In-The-Ocean WEAK!

No wonder I voted Green. Seems like those are the only guys who actually have an idea of what this country really needs. Too bad that asshole Harper's probably gonna get in.

The conservatives are good for ontario... not for the nation. When and if the conservatives or the NDP become federalist.... everything will goto hell in a handbag.

in case anyone missed the debate...

coverage
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/theca...ersdebates.html

opening statements
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...ening_debate.rm

leadership, trust and accountability
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/thecampaign/debate1.html
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...debate_whole.rm

canada's place in the world
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/thecampaign/debate2.html
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...debate_whole.rm

social policy
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/thecampaign/debate3.html
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...debate_whole.rm

health care
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/thecampaign/debate4.html
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...debate_whole.rm

closing statements
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...osing_debate.rm

Geee is sure hope Canada gets thats multi billion dollar missle defence system. Cause you know, we really need it.

I got an idea why dont we fuck our own sovereignty and just become the 51st state.

So from a non-Canadian's point of view, it was a bit like watching a bunch of school kids in the park. "Whoever talks loudest, gets heard". Admitedly I watched about 5mins of the English debate, but it was watching 4 people with 0 respect for each each other. They'd ask each other a question and then try and shout down their answer, though half the time they'd answer a totally different question.

It's also pretty strange that I've yet to hear what the Liberals actually stand for. They're so scared of the Conservatives, that all they're doing is negative politicing, trying to scare people with stories about what the Conservatives might do, instead of focusing on what they, the Liberals will do.

The Conservatives keep having to argue against the picture that the Liberals are painting of them.

The Bloc and the NDP, no one actually seems to take them that seriously.

Though this is just my impression from watching a small amount of the debate and reading the newspapers.

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Originally posted by Widget It's also pretty strange that I've yet to hear what the Liberals actually stand for. They're so scared of the Conservatives, that all they're doing is negative politicing, trying to scare people with stories about what the Conservatives might do, instead of focusing on what they, the Liberals will do.

this is a good point, i think the liberals and thier supporters assume that because the have been in power for as long as i can remember, everyone knows and understands what they stand for.

This also touches on an interesting idea that people will simple want the liberals held accountable and not punished for thier errors (most blatant being fiscal mismanagment).
People are scared for the drastic changes that a slide to the far left or far right would trigger, thus will vote for what they already know and hope that it gets better. I agree with this.

The liberals only problem is thier current lack of transparency. i believe a transparent liberal party as well as empowered government (at all levels) would be the strongest solution for canada. Gradual change and transparence. simple.

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Originally posted by Wrench Yup..Bloc IS a Joke. I mean come on..do you seriously think you're going to get elected with an attitude like that? Why would anyone give the keys to this country to a lunatic who's probably all bent out of shape about the rest of Canada and will separate it later on. Fuck that. You just know if the Bloc ever got in that they would do everything in their power to benefit citizens of Quebec while leaving the rest of the country to rot and giving it the shaft.

The funniest part is they will never win. It is actually impossible. The only people that can vote for the Bloc are Quebec citizens and they do not make up enough of the whole population of Canada to see them in power. Unless, of course, no one chooses to vote anywhere else in Canada and all Quebec citizens vote for the Bloc, but that is unlikely. I say shut up and stop running for a useless cause.

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Originally posted by Fil The funniest part is they will never win. It is actually impossible. The only people that can vote for the Bloc are Quebec citizens and they do not make up enough of the whole population of Canada to see them in power. Unless, of course, no one chooses to vote anywhere else in Canada and all Quebec citizens vote for the Bloc, but that is unlikely. I say shut up and stop running for a useless cause.

they have hope

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