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Posted by acell on Jun-16-2004 23:03:

z3ta 1.4 blank patch?

Hey guyz,

blown away by the Z3ta vsti.. anyone who hasn 't tried it should.. the sounds are so raw. i love it.

Tho i want to start learning it.. programing it from scratch but i can't seem to find a blank patch for it? Anyone help me with this?

Posted by Luke Terry on Jun-16-2004 23:50:

reset the waveforms to nothing, drag all the sliders to 0 and turn all the filters and whatnot to off then save it and u have a blank patch

Posted by alanzo on Jun-17-2004 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke Terry

reset the waveforms to nothing, drag all the sliders to 0 and turn all the filters and whatnot to off then save it and u have a blank patch

that's what I did for vanguard.. until I realized it sounded like shit, that is

Posted by Vert on Jun-17-2004 00:15:

If you want it to be blank every time, just go in the folder its installed, and make a new folder named whatever, and stick all the bank files in there. Wallah. If you want to use the banks, you can just use the open bank dialog.

es

Posted by acell on Jun-17-2004 00:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Vert
If you want it to be blank every time, just go in the folder its installed, and make a new folder named whatever, and stick all the bank files in there. Wallah. If you want to use the banks, you can just use the open bank dialog.

es

so simple yet i never thought of it

Posted by h.vox on Jun-17-2004 06:15:

Re: z3ta 1.4 blank patch?

quote:
Originally posted by acell
Hey guyz,

blown away by the Z3ta vsti.. anyone who hasn 't tried it should.. the sounds are so raw. i love it.

Tho i want to start learning it.. programing it from scratch but i can't seem to find a blank patch for it? Anyone help me with this?

click on 'program', and then on 'initialize'. simple, ain't?

Posted by Sebraa on Jun-17-2004 06:48:

Re: Re: z3ta 1.4 blank patch?

quote:
Originally posted by h.vox
click on 'program', and then on 'initialize'. simple, ain't?

that's better

Posted by shockwavedj on Jun-17-2004 10:30:

As h.vox said, program->initialize but you'll delete the current patch.

Then you should start choosing a waveform to play. You have up to 6 simultaneos waveforms (there are a lot of different waveforms: saw, pulse, triangle, complex spectrum...). Each waveform can be generated in one of the following ways:
- Normal: the frecuency of the oscillator that is generating the waveform matchs the frecuency of the incoming MIDI note. Usually called 'track'.
- Fixed: the freq of the oscillator is... exactly, fixed. Useful for modulation (sync, ring), noises, and fx.
- Inverted: the phase of the oscillator is oposite (180�) of the Normal phase. If you play 2 osc, both with the same waveform, and one in Normal Sync, and the other in Inverse Sync, you'll hear nothing.
- Multi: is the supersaw-like mode. Every oscillator becomes six detunable oscillators playing the same waveform. "Phase" fader controls the amount of detuning. (This mode produces a stereo signal).

For each one of those modes, there are two trigger modes:
- Sync: the waveform is retriggered (re-started from its begining everytime a note is played). With this you can add some punch and harshness (like DCOs) to your presets. That's more obvious in the case of very detuned multi osillator.
- Free: phase of the oscillator is random at the start of a note. This gives a softer and VCO-like sound.

The third issue in the osc panel is the group feature. With this you can modulate oscs one each other. The first modulates the second and so... There are six modulation modes:
- ADD (additive): every osc is added to the next without any kind of modulation.
- RING: the oscillator is multiplied with the next.
- SYNC: the phase of the next osc is retriggered everytime this osc is retriggered. It's very interesting specially when oscs are severely detuned (and not harmonically).
- PM: the phase of the next osc is controlled by the level of the current one. You can get with this DX-like sounds (since DX is really PM mod not FM mod).
- FM: the phase variation is controlled by the level of the current osc. FM produces really weird and hardly usable sounds (FM synthesis is one of the more complex to program, so any change in freq, level or phase is not very intuitive).
- PWM: it has be done thru the matrix modulation, routing a LFO to destination->pulse width->osc#.

That's a light summary of what you can do in osc panel. There are a lot of more complex things you can do: waveshaping, portamento, tune... but they are more experimental.

Posted by acell on Jun-17-2004 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by shockwavedj
As h.vox said, program->initialize but you'll delete the current patch.

Then you should start choosing a waveform to play. You have up to 6 simultaneos waveforms (there are a lot of different waveforms: saw, pulse, triangle, complex spectrum...). Each waveform can be generated in one of the following ways:
- Normal: the frecuency of the oscillator that is generating the waveform matchs the frecuency of the incoming MIDI note. Usually called 'track'.
- Fixed: the freq of the oscillator is... exactly, fixed. Useful for modulation (sync, ring), noises, and fx.
- Inverted: the phase of the oscillator is oposite (180�) of the Normal phase. If you play 2 osc, both with the same waveform, and one in Normal Sync, and the other in Inverse Sync, you'll hear nothing.
- Multi: is the supersaw-like mode. Every oscillator becomes six detunable oscillators playing the same waveform. "Phase" fader controls the amount of detuning. (This mode produces a stereo signal).

For each one of those modes, there are two trigger modes:
- Sync: the waveform is retriggered (re-started from its begining everytime a note is played). With this you can add some punch and harshness (like DCOs) to your presets. That's more obvious in the case of very detuned multi osillator.
- Free: phase of the oscillator is random at the start of a note. This gives a softer and VCO-like sound.

The third issue in the osc panel is the group feature. With this you can modulate oscs one each other. The first modulates the second and so... There are six modulation modes:
- ADD (additive): every osc is added to the next without any kind of modulation.
- RING: the oscillator is multiplied with the next.
- SYNC: the phase of the next osc is retriggered everytime this osc is retriggered. It's very interesting specially when oscs are severely detuned (and not harmonically).
- PM: the phase of the next osc is controlled by the level of the current one. You can get with this DX-like sounds (since DX is really PM mod not FM mod).
- FM: the phase variation is controlled by the level of the current osc. FM produces really weird and hardly usable sounds (FM synthesis is one of the more complex to program, so any change in freq, level or phase is not very intuitive).
- PWM: it has be done thru the matrix modulation, routing a LFO to destination->pulse width->osc#.

That's a light summary of what you can do in osc panel. There are a lot of more complex things you can do: waveshaping, portamento, tune... but they are more experimental.

WOW! thanks you so much for that man.. greatly apreciated!!