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Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-17-2004 01:32:

i got turntables

...so I got some numarks the other day... remember when I was talkin' shit about how I was gonna beatmatch well in a week? well.... it didn't work out exactly how I figured.. I'll be the first to admit I was wrong.. but anyways, I can kinda do it.. It just takes me a little bit to get it matched after cueing...

I was wondering, is there anything that I SHOULDN'T do to the turntables? like scratching, or spinning the platters a certain way? or something? just wondering, I don't wanna mess up my gear yet, I've only had them for a week. any replies would be greatly appreciated

and what's this pitch riding thing i keep hearing about? everyone talks about slowing or speeding up the record by touching the label of the vinyl or something? I always used the pitch slider.. is using the pitch slider not as precise or something?


Posted by auujay on Jun-17-2004 01:38:

Re: i got turntables

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
and what's this pitch riding thing i keep hearing about? everyone talks about slowing or speeding up the record by touching the label of the vinyl or something? I always used the pitch slider.. is using the pitch slider not as precise or something?


Different strokes for different folks.


Posted by dj chex on Jun-17-2004 02:18:

well one good way not to kill your records is use as little tracking force as necessary. Oh and BTW, im still waiting to hear how your first mixed set sounds

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....oh and hopefully I'll have decks in a month or so (but I'm straight broke). I'll tell you what- to attempt to prove my point that beatmatching ain't so bad, the day I get my decks and five vinyls I'll get on the boards and tell you guys about it. Then I'll sit there the first day and practice for a week and by the end of the week, I'll have a set, fully beatmatched, for you guys to pick and prod at. ...either that or I'll eat my words.


Posted by dj chex on Jun-17-2004 02:30:

so i guess you've learned real mixing is alot different from the computer but don't forget, you can also do more creative things w/ decks than you can with just software.

To make it even better try to mix from vinyl to traktor. That's when it gets really fun :P


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-17-2004 02:34:

how do I go about mixing from traktor to vinyl? the mix will get done sometime soon... expect in a week or so if i can figure out how to record it. I guess the main difference between vinyl and traktor for me is songs in traktor start instantaneously while my decks take .8 seconds to get going... that makes it a tad tough.


Posted by dj chex on Jun-17-2004 02:48:

how are you cueing the records blue?

When you cue a record, you first start the platter so it's spinning underneith and you carefully hold the record in place w/ your fingertips. Then you rock the record back and forth over the desired cue point. When you are ready to start the record, you release it and it will catch on.

Kinda hard to explain, but once you figure it out it makes it much easier.


Posted by dj chex on Jun-17-2004 02:51:

Oh yeah i forgot to ask, do you have felt slipmats?


Posted by Inertia on Jun-17-2004 05:21:

will you like fries or a milkshake to wash down those words you'll be eating?


Posted by DannyO on Jun-17-2004 05:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
will you like fries or a milkshake to wash down those words you'll be eating?


LOL...yea I hate it when somebody says its easy and they could do it, one of my buddies thought this, so I said I'll give him afew minutes and all he has to do is beatmatch and sync the 2 records, they don't have to sound good or have any EQin going on, and I tiold him if he can do that, he can have my setup and anything else in my room, well after him getting pissed cos he couldn't, well, lets just say I can still spin in my room.


Posted by dj chex on Jun-17-2004 05:52:

when i was in a band in high school, there was this guy that could pretty much master any instrument you would throw at him. I was totally amazed. He played trumpet, drums, guitar, and keyboard while recording w/ us. I remembered one day after practicing and recording, he wanted to learn how to scratch and beatmix. I swear that was the only thing he couldn't play! So me being a cool friend, i loaned him a stanton sk-4, 500al2, str8-60 and gave him a ton of battle records and simple house records to practice. Still to this day he is not comfortable w/ the mixing concept like he is w/ other instruments.


I kinda wished our band actually stayed together long enough to record a actual album. And i kinda wished i stayed in production and scratching.


Posted by DannyO on Jun-17-2004 06:00:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
when i was in a band in high school, there was this guy that could pretty much master any instrument you would throw at him. I was totally amazed. He played trumpet, drums, guitar, and keyboard while recording w/ us. I remembered one day after practicing and recording, he wanted to learn how to scratch and beatmix. I swear that was the only thing he couldn't play! So me being a cool friend, i loaned him a stanton sk-4, 500al2, str8-60 and gave him a ton of battle records and simple house records to practice. Still to this day he is not comfortable w/ the mixing concept like he is w/ other instruments.


I kinda wished our band actually stayed together long enough to record a actual album. And i kinda wished i stayed in production and scratching.


Thats cool about your friend being good with instruments, but weird he can't learn how to mix fully, kinda good to hear, cos so many people think theres nothing to it.

Don't wanna jack the thread but, why did you stop Producing and Scratching?, I can see how a band can fall apart, needs everyone to stick together, but your on your own when scratching or producing.


Posted by Inertia on Jun-17-2004 06:06:

someone should write up a turntablism 101 of sorts for us who want to learn to get started on. just some basics so we get the idea.


Posted by DannyO on Jun-17-2004 06:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
someone should write up a turntablism 101 of sorts for us who want to learn to get started on. just some basics so we get the idea.


There already is somewhere on the internet, I'll try looking in abit, but I remember it being very well writen and explained, it even had sound clips, and there was another one that had videos aswell.

EDIT: Heres one.


Posted by dj chex on Jun-17-2004 06:13:

well in high school i was poor and i had crap gear. But i did try to find different ways to do stuff. Back then i use to run around w/ my md recorder and recorded samples from the school, the street, anywhere and everyware and transfered that into my pc. Then i would record scratch sessions from my crapo str8-60 and chopped and paste that into acid along w/ earthy samples from around town. You can make pretty intresting tracks out of car horns as they drive by along w/ old smelly ghetto record shop vinyl.

Now things are different. I work at a pc shop. I spent too much money on gear and vinyl. Now instead of making the most of it i twiddle around w/ my decks and mixer and rarely get inspired to even record sets. I guess my creativty has died b/c im not around the crazy people i use to hang out with. I should go through my stack of cds and MDs and see if there's anything left that's good to start over.


Posted by DannyO on Jun-17-2004 06:22:

Chex: thats really cool what you did, I've heard afew artists that have made amazingly interesting and nice sounding tracks using samples of crazy things.

Its a shame you lost your inspiration though, and you SHOULD go back to listening to some of your old MDs and CDs, sometimes when I kinda feel the same I go back and listen to the mixes I recorded like 8 years ago, when I was still getting into it, and after, all I wanna do is spin, you should maybe listeing to some different types of music related to EDM, I find Ambient versions of trance music AMAZING, or listening to stuff like Boards Of Canada, I should get into producing cos I come up with some amazing ideas that a sound that I hear in there music sparks off.

For people into scratching.
Heres another "Kinda" scratch tutorial, but this time its a vid.
Clicky Clicky


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-17-2004 17:57:

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LOL...yea I hate it when somebody says its easy and they could do it, one of my buddies thought this, so I said I'll give him afew minutes and all he has to do is beatmatch and sync the 2 records, they don't have to sound good or have any EQin going on, and I tiold him if he can do that, he can have my setup and anything else in my room


seriously, i can do that... i just don't think I could do it with five or so records in a row. now about the cueing...

I think i've been completely ruining my records or something... I thought you hit play, straight up stopped the platter, found the place in the record, and while the table is still running (but stopped) you just let off the platter so it starts spinnin' again.... man maybe that messed up the motor or something... damn, damn, damn


Posted by Psiweaver on Jun-21-2004 01:37:

Ya it soo funny when someone is all talk about being able to mix and then when they actually hop onto the decks they can't do shit.



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